Worst 3pt FG% (on over 50 attempts this season)

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Crow
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Worst 3pt FG% (on over 50 attempts this season)

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http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... r_by_asc=Y

Rubio 5th worst, A Miller 6th, DeRozan 7th, Rondo 8th, Wade 10th, etc.

Only about the ten worst have an eFG% on these 3 pt shots worse than the average mid-range shot.



P.S. Rubio with 4th worst eFG% on all shots over the last 10 seasons for guys with 400+ FGAs.
http://bkref.com/tiny/wglPO
Only the tiniest bit of improvement season to date over his even worse shooting last season. Feb. / March were a lot better than earlier months of this season, but still below average. Still time to move up or down. First game of April was quite cold.
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Re: Worst 3pt FG% (on over 50 attempts this season)

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monta ellis, 2nd worst 3pt FG% on 200+ 3pt FGAs in a single season in league history - 63/239 for just 26.4%. that's ranking 1,579th out of the 1,580 times a player attempted 200+ 3pters in a season...
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Re: Worst 3pt FG% (on over 50 attempts this season)

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bob, your info is dated; you've got Monta's shooting thru Mar. 20. In 6 subsequent games, he's hit 12 of 32 (.375), to bring his 3fg% to .277

Suddenly there are 12 player-seasons (2 in the ABA) with lower 3fg% on 200+ attempts. List includes Jason Kidd, Mookie Blaylock, Baron Davis, Devin Harris, and Antoine Walker 3 times.


At .387 eFG%, Rubio is .084 below the Wolves' .471 (3rd worst in the league).
In 2004, Derek Fisher shot .398 for the Lakers, who hit .481 as a team. So they may be about equivalent.
Except that Rubio shoots a lot more FT, and makes them. At .484 TS%, he's well better than the others in that low eFG% list:
http://bkref.com/tiny/5aQUS

The Wolves have a TS% of .515, and Rubio is .031 below that. His shooting is responsible for bringing the team TS% down about .003
He's just 4th on the team in this dubious stat: Dante Cunningham, Kevin Love, and Alexey Shved are bringing the team TS% down even more, with just their shooting.
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Re: Worst 3pt FG% (on over 50 attempts this season)

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Here are leaders in raising/lowering team TS% just by the individuals' shooting. There's no accounting for any effect on teammates' shooting -- by passing, spreading the floor, setting picks -- nor for offensive rebounds.

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shooting raises team TS% by         shooting lowers team TS% by

.018    durant,kevin    okl        -.016    westbrook,russel okl
.014    james,lebron    mia        -.012    smith,josh       atl
.011    webster,martell was        -.007    rivers,austin    nor
.011    curry,stephen   gsw        -.007    cole,norris      mia
.010    harden,james    hou        -.007    smith,j.r.       nyk
.010    chandler,tyson  nyk        -.007    odom,lamar       lac
.009    irving,kyrie    cle        -.006    felton,raymond   nyk
.008    korver,kyle     atl        -.006    neal,gary        san
.008    dudley,jared    pho        -.006    hibbert,roy      ind
.007    hickson,j.j.    por        -.006    green,draymond   gsw
.007    thomas,isaiah   sac        -.006    bradley,avery    bos
.007    gasol,marc      mem        -.005    beasley,michael  pho
.007    anderson,ryan   nor        -.005    brewer,corey     den
.007   kirilenko,andrei min        -.005    jackson,stephen  san
.007    pekovic,nikola  min        -.005    turner,evan      phi
.007    bryant,kobe     lal        -.005    derozan,demar    tor
These figures represent the difference between team TS% with and without the player's scoring and shots.
Note Rubio teammates Kirilenko and Pekovic, who bring up their team's TS%. AK shoots .593 and is 74% assisted on his points. Nik shoots .569 and is 65% assisted.
Rubio ranks #55 from the bottom -- ahead of DWade, Duncan, Aldridge, Al Jefferson, Iguodala, Monta, Vasquez, Lin.

Norris Cole only takes about 5% of Miami's shots, but at .473 TS%, he's about .127 below the rest of the team. Similar deal for Odom and a few others.
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Re: Worst 3pt FG% (on over 50 attempts this season)

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Worst 3fg% for a given number of attempts:

Code: Select all

3fg-Att    player        tm    yr   3fg%
0 - 22   Tom Garrick     LAC  1991  .000
1 - 28   Randy Smith     Cle  1981  .036
2 - 43   Gus Williams    Sea  1983  .047
5 - 52   Demar DeRozan   Tor  2011  .096
7 - 62   Dennis Johnson  Bos  1987  .113 
14- 91   Mookie Blaylock NJN  1991  .154
19-101   M.R. Richardson NYK  1982  .188
22-110   Chris Morris    NJN  1992  .200
26-128   Johnny Neumann  Mem  1972  .203
35-162   Charles Barkley Phl  1989  .216
39-176   Mike Evans      Den  1986  .222
47-195  Jerry Stackhouse tot  1998  .241
73-285   Antoine Walker  Bos  2000  .256
90-334   Mookie Blaylock Atl  1998  .269
145-523  Chico Vaughn    MnP  1969  .277
167-564  Michael Adams   Den  1991  .296
187-582  Baron Davis     NOH  2004  .321
Those prior to 1981 were in the ABA
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Re: Worst 3pt FG% (on over 50 attempts this season)

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Thanks Mike for the leaders in raising/lowering team TS% just by the individuals' shooting. If this were translated to points, I think Durant's positive scoring contribution would be worth almost 4 pts per game and Westbrook's over -3 pts (around 80 shots * the team TS% increase or decrease * 2 pts per score= impact).


sidenote: Rondo and Rubio with highest TO%s for guards with assist% over 25% and playing 20+ minutes per game this season: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... by=tov_pct
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