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Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:27 pm
by Crow
The two most improved lists are about 2 to 1 in favor of younger guys. The biggest decline lists are closer to half and half.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:09 pm
by Mike G
If Player A improves his FT% from .600 to .800, and he's 8/10 on the year, he's gained 2 points with his FT% improvement.
If Player B improves from .600 to .700, and he's 70/100, he's gained 10 points from his FT improvement.
I would say player B has improved his FT shooting more. There's little improvement from shooting "better" but never getting any shots: It doesn't improve the team.
Similarly, a player's per-minute improvement matters less if he isn't doing it for many minutes. If you're measuring improved point-differential or wins per minute, multiply that by the minutes played, and you have the increase in contribution.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:22 pm
by Mike G
With 26% of the season having been played:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.93 Blatche,Andray Brk .534 21.2 11.7 2.0 1.66 Was .410 11.4 8.6 1.4 .68
.89 Bledsoe,Eric LAC .551 20.4 5.3 5.1 1.56 .446 8.8 4.7 4.1 .52
.77 Williams,Mo Uta .540 17.7 2.5 8.2 1.35 LAC .526 16.9 2.5 3.5 .76
.76 Mayo,O.J. Dal .613 24.2 4.3 3.5 1.36 Mem .507 17.0 4.3 3.3 .90
.75 Varejao,Anderson Cle .519 15.0 16.3 3.1 1.97 .533 12.9 14.1 1.9 1.54
.73 Knight,Brandon Det .546 19.0 4.4 5.6 1.13 .506 15.3 4.0 3.9 .68
.71 Bryant,Kobe LAL .598 32.5 5.0 4.7 2.00 .517 28.5 5.4 4.0 1.61
.71 Holiday,Jrue Phl .507 19.9 3.9 8.0 1.46 .492 16.5 3.6 4.6 1.07
.69 Davis,Glen Orl .467 18.1 9.8 2.2 1.25 .458 13.7 8.4 1.2 .79
.68 Evans,Reggie Brk .609 6.3 15.2 1.0 1.44 LAC .484 4.2 11.8 .6 .68
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.68 Stephenson,Lance Ind .565 12.3 4.5 3.4 .72 .397 7.0 3.7 3.6 .14
.67 Walker,Kemba Cha .503 18.8 3.5 5.7 1.29 .457 14.8 4.7 4.4 .86
.67 Durant,Kevin Okl .625 30.3 8.6 4.5 2.38 .598 29.7 8.0 3.5 2.04
.66 Felton,Raymond NYK .479 19.0 3.2 8.5 1.39 Por .486 13.4 3.0 7.4 .95
.62 Pargo,Jeremy Cle .481 16.6 3.0 4.6 .74 Mem .385 8.8 2.8 4.1 -.04
.61 Lopez,Robin NOH .564 16.4 8.8 1.2 1.27 Phx .513 11.9 7.4 .7 .75
.61 Randolph,Zach Mem .540 20.0 14.2 1.4 1.73 .492 16.1 11.4 2.4 1.33
.60 Morris,Marcus Hou .527 11.7 6.9 1.1 .56 .345 7.9 3.9 .7 -.16
.60 Kidd,Jason NYK .728 15.3 4.8 5.3 1.83 Dal .521 8.7 5.4 7.3 1.23
.59 Westbrook,Russel Okl .503 24.3 5.4 10.2 2.06 .529 26.2 5.0 6.2 1.73
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.55 Duncan,Tim SAS .556 24.0 13.3 3.3 2.36 .522 21.1 12.4 3.2 2.00
.54 Lee,David GSW .549 20.3 11.7 3.5 1.70 .540 20.1 9.6 2.6 1.40
.51 Hinrich,Kirk Chi .460 10.3 3.5 7.7 .97 Atl .508 10.0 3.1 3.8 .51
.49 West,David Ind .534 21.6 9.4 3.0 1.69 .524 17.4 8.6 3.1 1.39
.47 Patterson,Patric Hou .537 15.9 6.2 1.9 .87 .454 10.5 6.7 1.2 .50
.47 Sanders,Larry Mil .527 11.3 11.1 1.2 1.25 .458 8.4 7.6 1.5 .76
.46 Turner,Evan Phl .503 16.8 7.7 3.9 1.25 .474 13.5 7.7 3.5 .99
.44 Conley,Mike Mem .573 18.5 3.4 7.4 1.63 .516 14.6 2.9 7.0 1.31
.43 Crawford,Jordan Was .497 20.9 4.9 4.7 1.19 .482 18.8 3.5 3.4 .80
.42 Dragic,Goran Phx .563 18.8 3.9 6.8 1.54 Hou .558 16.8 3.6 7.0 1.27
As is my custom, I've listed everyone with at least 50% of the leader. It's a long-ish list, because there's no runaway leader so far.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:38 am
by Mike G
How did Andray Blatche of the Nets go from nowhere on the list to the top, in under 3 weeks?
In November, playing 18 mpg off the bench, he shot .448 on FG, averaged 9.4 pts, 5.7 Reb
In December, he's started all 6 games, shooting .568 FG, avg 29 minutes, 18 pts and 9 reb.
From last year, his PER is up from 10.6 to 23.9; WS/48 from minus-.011 to .193; eW/484 from .68 to 1.66
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:50 am
by Mike G
Kobe's gone from a career-low TS% last year (.527) to a career best so far this year (.599).
Previous high is .580, in 2007.
His eFG% is .064 better than last year, and he's shooting more and better FT%.
He also leads the league in turnovers, with a TO% that's below only his rookie year and 2005.
He's got a better assist% than all but 3 other seasons.
His ORtg (117) and WS/48 (.230) are career bests.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:35 am
by Mike G
Forgot to post the most unimproved
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-1.10 Iguodala,Andre Den .499 14.5 5.8 3.9 .87 Phi .527 14.8 6.5 5.2 1.53
-.87 Bargnani,Andrea Tor .480 16.9 5.2 1.4 .65 .528 23.4 6.6 1.9 1.28
-.83 Johnson,Joe Brk .508 17.1 3.1 3.7 .82 Atl .551 22.2 4.1 4.0 1.34
-.77 Hawes,Spencer Phl .467 11.9 8.9 1.9 .80 Phi .512 15.7 10.7 3.6 1.60
-.77 Lin,Jeremy Hou .482 12.8 4.9 7.2 1.17 NYK .540 21.5 4.3 8.9 1.72
-.73 Hibbert,Roy Ind .403 12.1 10.7 1.8 1.03 .530 17.1 11.2 2.4 1.59
-.68 Howard,Dwight LAL .549 19.7 12.6 2.0 1.84 Orl .550 22.1 14.9 2.0 2.27
-.68 Johnson,James Sac .374 7.1 5.1 1.9 .17 Tor .492 13.6 7.2 2.6 1.08
-.64 Wade,Dwyane Mia .555 24.2 4.7 5.1 1.59 .549 27.9 5.9 5.7 2.15
-.63 Gortat,Marcin Phx .551 13.0 10.1 1.3 1.19 .568 18.4 11.8 1.0 1.64
-.59 Lawson,Ty Den .482 15.5 2.9 7.0 1.10 .571 18.1 4.2 6.8 1.45
-.58 Green,Gerald Ind .456 10.7 5.2 1.0 .21 NJN .567 17.9 4.9 1.5 .81
-.57 Gasol,Pau LAL .467 13.2 9.7 3.9 1.20 .539 18.5 10.7 3.5 1.68
-.56 Ilyasova,Ersan Mil .459 12.9 8.5 2.0 .90 .568 17.6 11.5 1.5 1.52
-.53 Lee,Courtney Bos .509 8.3 3.5 2.0 .12 Hou .530 13.7 3.4 1.8 .63
Most of these guys are shooting much worse this year. Wade and Dwight are not shooting worse, just less; and doing less of everything else.
Iguodala is shooting more and worse; doing less of everything else.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:07 am
by Mike G
Comparison of eWins, PER, and Win Shares for the 15 players judged by eWins to have created fewer wins this year.
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unimproved - - eW/484 - - - - PER - - - WS/48 - -
(got worse) tm 2012 2013 eW+ 2012 2013 2012 2013 WS+
Iguodala,Andre Den 1.53 .87 -1.10 17.6 13.2 .158 .043 -1.96
Bargnani,Andrea Tor 1.28 .65 -.87 17.9 12.6 .104 .007 -1.39
Johnson,Joe Brk 1.34 .82 -.83 18.4 13.7 .145 .080 -1.08
Hawes,Spencer Phl 1.60 .80 -.77 18.1 14.2 .152 .072 -.79
Lin,Jeremy Hou 1.72 1.17 -.77 19.9 13.6 .140 .066 -1.06
Hibbert,Roy Ind 1.59 1.03 -.73 19.3 14.6 .154 .067 -1.17
Howard,Dwight LAL 2.27 1.84 -.68 24.2 20.7 .179 .146 -.55
Johnson,James Sac 1.08 .17 -.68 14.5 6.3 .079 -.060 -1.04
Wade,Dwyane Mia 2.15 1.59 -.64 26.3 21.6 .227 .153 -.87
Gortat,Marcin Phx 1.64 1.19 -.63 21.2 16.8 .172 .106 -.98
Lawson,Ty Den 1.45 1.10 -.59 19.4 15.0 .157 .066 -1.59
Green,Gerald Ind .81 .21 -.58 15.8 7.6 .072 .028 -.44
Gasol,Pau LAL 1.68 1.20 -.57 20.5 15.0 .165 .097 -.84
Ilyasova,Ersan Mil 1.52 .90 -.56 20.5 13.9 .185 .095 -.83
Lee,Courtney Bos .63 .12 -.53 12.6 8.0 .087 .027 -.63
averages 1.49 .91 -.70 19.1 13.8 .145 .066 -1.01
Even though this list is created by biggest eWins declines, 13 of 15 show a bigger decline in Win Shares.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:31 pm
by talkingpractice
If anyone is curious, here's a Most Improved list created as simply the Delta from a player's prior to the his current IPV. Given that movement from prior to IPV depends both on performance and also on MP (relative to that associated with the prior), this should sort of take care of both sources of 'improvement' simultaneously/optimally (in theory). Here's the 10 we get as of Dec 14th, along with their current IPV. Looks like lots of high field goal percentages, and lots of blocked shots...
1. Eric Bledsoe, IPV = 1.91
2. DeMarre Carroll, IPV = -0.01
3. JaVale McGee, IPV = 0.69
4. Serge Ibaka, IPV = 2.45
5. Reggie Evans, IPV = -1.09
6. Brook Lopez, IPV = 0.72
7. Marcus Morris, IPV = -1.50
8. DeAndre Jordan, IPV = 1.97
9. Larry Sanders, IPV = -0.34
10. Brandan Wright, IPV = 1.42
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:38 pm
by Mike G
I'm curious.
Can you post their previous IPV, that this one is relative to?
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:22 pm
by talkingpractice
Mike G wrote:I'm curious.
Can you post their previous IPV, that this one is relative to?
For Bledsoe, our prior was -1.29. But since it was based on relatively few minutes (esp in 2012), and due to his age, he's moved off of that prior very quickly. Carroll was at -2.70 prior. I'm going to keep the other ones to myself for now, and I'll avoid getting myself into similar predicaments going forward (and apologize for doing so this time).
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:33 pm
by Mike G
Thru almost 1/3 of the season, most improvement from last season:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.02 Blatche,Andray Brk .534 20.5 10.7 1.9 1.56 Was .410 11.4 8.6 1.4 .68
.95 Morris,Marcus Hou .561 13.4 6.6 1.3 .68 .345 7.9 3.9 .7 -.16
.93 Randolph,Zach Mem .531 19.9 14.7 1.5 1.81 .492 16.1 11.4 2.4 1.33
.91 Stephenson,Lance Ind .564 12.3 4.2 3.8 .78 .397 7.0 3.7 3.6 .14
.90 Lee,David GSW .570 21.0 11.5 3.7 1.79 .540 20.1 9.6 2.6 1.40
.87 Lopez,Robin NOH .578 17.8 8.8 1.1 1.33 Phx .513 11.9 7.4 .7 .75
.86 Davis,Glen Orl .481 18.9 9.3 2.1 1.28 .458 13.7 8.4 1.2 .79
.82 Durant,Kevin Okl .638 30.4 8.5 4.5 2.40 .598 29.7 8.0 3.5 2.04
.82 Varejao,Anderson Cle .519 14.9 16.3 3.0 1.96 .533 12.9 14.1 1.9 1.54
.82 Walker,Kemba Cha .510 18.9 3.3 5.6 1.26 .457 14.8 4.7 4.4 .86
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.81 Bledsoe,Eric LAC .534 18.0 4.9 5.0 1.29 .446 8.8 4.7 4.1 .52
.79 Westbrook,Russel Okl .497 23.8 5.4 10.5 2.11 .529 26.2 5.0 6.2 1.73
.78 Hill,George Ind .522 18.3 4.9 5.6 1.41 .548 14.1 4.1 4.4 1.04
.77 Sanders,Larry Mil .542 11.5 11.8 1.3 1.35 .458 8.4 7.6 1.5 .76
.75 Paul,Chris LAC .583 22.3 4.4 11.4 2.48 .571 22.5 4.0 8.5 2.10
.74 Knight,Brandon Det .519 18.0 4.5 5.4 1.04 .506 15.3 4.0 3.9 .68
.73 Bryant,Kobe LAL .577 30.7 5.4 4.8 1.93 .517 28.5 5.4 4.0 1.61
.70 Felton,Raymond NYK .465 18.5 3.5 7.9 1.31 Por .486 13.4 3.0 7.4 .95
.67 Harden,James Hou .584 26.2 4.4 5.2 1.76 Okl .642 21.1 4.7 4.1 1.44
.66 Williams,Mo Uta .532 16.6 2.6 7.8 1.16 LAC .526 16.9 2.5 3.5 .76
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.65 Vucevic,Nikola Orl .513 13.9 12.8 1.9 1.34 Phi .459 12.3 10.1 1.2 .97
.64 Mayo,O.J. Dal .591 21.8 4.2 3.7 1.21 Mem .507 17.0 4.3 3.3 .90
.62 Holiday,Jrue Phl .511 19.2 4.1 7.5 1.39 .492 16.5 3.6 4.6 1.07
.62 Stevenson,Deshaw Atl .581 10.9 5.2 1.4 .57 NJN .411 4.8 3.9 1.5 -.08
.62 Duncan,Tim SAS .540 23.2 13.0 3.5 2.32 .522 21.1 12.4 3.2 2.00
.60 Artest,Ron LAL .557 14.6 6.4 1.8 .94 .472 10.5 4.7 2.7 .64
.60 West,David Ind .522 22.1 9.2 3.1 1.68 .524 17.4 8.6 3.1 1.39
.60 Pargo,Jeremy Cle .477 16.2 3.0 4.4 .69 Mem .385 8.8 2.8 4.1 -.04
.60 Hickson,J.J. Por .576 17.2 15.4 1.1 1.75 .558 18.0 10.0 1.4 1.36
.54 Patterson,Patric Hou .538 16.4 6.3 2.0 .91 .454 10.5 6.7 1.2 .50
Players with biggest dropoffs in eWins from last year to this year, in this year's minutes:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.96 Hawes,Spencer Phl .494 13.7 8.7 1.7 .83 .512 15.7 10.7 3.6 1.60
-.92 Howard,Dwight LAL .555 19.1 12.8 2.1 1.80 Orl .550 22.1 14.9 2.0 2.27
-.91 Johnson,Joe Brk .518 17.9 3.2 3.6 .89 Atl .551 22.2 4.1 4.0 1.34
-.89 Iguodala,Andre Den .520 15.3 6.2 4.5 1.08 Phi .527 14.8 6.5 5.2 1.53
-.86 Lin,Jeremy Hou .498 13.4 4.7 7.6 1.22 NYK .540 21.5 4.3 8.9 1.72
-.82 Lawson,Ty Den .477 14.8 2.8 7.1 1.04 .571 18.1 4.2 6.8 1.45
-.77 Ilyasova,Ersan Mil .454 12.6 8.2 2.1 .86 .568 17.6 11.5 1.5 1.52
-.77 Johnson,James Sac .405 8.2 4.9 2.0 .28 Tor .492 13.6 7.2 2.6 1.08
-.73 Bargnani,Andrea Tor .480 17.8 5.2 1.5 .75 .528 23.4 6.6 1.9 1.28
-.66 Smith,Josh Atl .471 18.9 9.4 3.7 1.54 .490 21.2 10.7 4.2 1.95
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.63 Novak,Steve NYK .597 9.9 2.8 .9 .19 .679 16.8 3.5 .4 .66
-.62 Hibbert,Roy Ind .427 13.8 11.1 2.0 1.20 .530 17.1 11.2 2.4 1.59
-.61 Haywood,Brendan Cha .492 7.3 9.3 .6 .43 Dal .509 9.2 10.4 .6 .96
-.61 Gortat,Marcin Phx .547 13.5 10.8 1.4 1.29 .568 18.4 11.8 1.0 1.64
-.60 Gasol,Pau LAL .460 12.9 10.0 4.1 1.23 .539 18.5 10.7 3.5 1.68
-.60 Green,Gerald Ind .498 12.9 4.8 .9 .31 NJN .567 17.9 4.9 1.5 .81
-.59 Brand,Elton Dal .463 10.4 10.2 2.0 .94 Phi .516 15.7 9.3 2.0 1.50
-.55 Lee,Courtney Bos .530 9.7 3.6 1.6 .20 Hou .530 13.7 3.4 1.8 .63
-.55 Bass,Brandon Bos .477 11.1 7.9 .9 .63 .517 15.9 7.4 1.1 1.02
-.54 Terry,Jason Bos .562 14.5 2.4 2.5 .59 Dal .537 17.9 2.6 4.0 .93
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.54 Noah,Joakim Chi .536 14.4 10.6 4.1 1.56 .551 14.6 12.4 3.1 1.83
-.54 Williams,Marvin Uta .553 14.0 5.7 1.3 .73 Atl .532 15.1 7.5 1.7 1.12
-.53 Gee,Alonzo Cle .491 12.8 4.6 1.9 .48 .505 12.7 6.5 1.9 .74
-.52 Udoh,Ekpe Mil .496 8.1 6.0 1.2 .48 .481 9.2 7.8 1.8 .96
-.51 Stiemsma,Greg Min .415 7.0 5.8 .8 .11 Bos .573 7.7 7.6 1.2 1.09
Surprised to see Noah down here, as most of his per game averages are up. But he's playing 40 mpg this year (30.4 last year), with his rebounds way down, turnovers way up, FG% at career low.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:43 pm
by Mike G
Most improvement through 45% of the season, in eWins added beyond last year's rates.
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
1.50 Morris,Marcus Hou .536 13.3 6.4 1.7 .70 .345 7.9 3.9 .7 -.16
1.46 Blatche,Andray Brk .527 20.2 11.1 1.9 1.58 Was .410 11.4 8.6 1.4 .68
1.45 Stephenson,Lance Ind .547 12.3 4.7 3.5 .85 .397 7.0 3.7 3.6 .14
1.28 Sanders,Larry Mil .547 11.9 11.8 1.3 1.46 .458 8.4 7.6 1.5 .76
1.13 Randolph,Zach Mem .538 19.9 13.6 1.6 1.77 .492 16.1 11.4 2.4 1.33
1.10 Westbrook,Russel Okl .503 23.5 5.7 10.3 2.10 .529 26.2 5.0 6.2 1.73
1.09 Lopez,Robin NOH .580 17.5 8.6 1.1 1.28 Phx .513 11.9 7.4 .7 .75
1.08 Durant,Kevin Okl .639 30.8 7.7 4.6 2.37 .598 29.7 8.0 3.5 2.04
1.05 Vasquez,Greivis NOH .507 15.9 5.2 8.5 1.27 .507 13.1 3.9 6.5 .89
1.01 Vucevic,Nikola Orl .520 13.6 13.3 1.7 1.38 Phi .459 12.3 10.1 1.2 .97
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
.98 Bledsoe,Eric LAC .522 16.8 5.1 4.9 1.21 .446 8.8 4.7 4.1 .52
.93 Lee,David GSW .564 20.7 10.9 3.7 1.71 .540 20.1 9.6 2.6 1.40
.91 Evans,Reggie Brk .513 5.5 15.4 1.0 1.23 LAC .484 4.2 11.8 .6 .68
.89 Harden,James Hou .589 26.3 4.2 5.1 1.73 Okl .642 21.1 4.7 4.1 1.44
.86 Walker,Kemba Cha .507 18.1 3.6 5.3 1.18 .457 14.8 4.7 4.4 .86
.84 Lopez,Brook Brk .541 25.1 10.1 1.2 1.78 NJN .516 26.0 5.1 1.6 1.34
.72 Asik,Omer Hou .538 12.5 14.1 1.4 1.33 Chi .494 7.4 11.7 1.1 1.04
.72 Patterson,Patric Hou .552 15.8 6.7 1.9 .92 .454 10.5 6.7 1.2 .50
.72 Davis,Glen Orl .481 17.8 9.2 2.0 1.19 .458 13.7 8.4 1.2 .79
.70 Holiday,Jrue Phl .514 19.2 4.1 7.3 1.32 Phi .492 16.5 3.6 4.6 1.07
.70 Varejao,Anderson Cle .519 14.5 15.7 3.1 1.89 .533 12.9 14.1 1.9 1.54
How did Brook Lopez double his rebounding rate since last season?
Biggest downturns, last year to this year:
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eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-1.58 Lin,Jeremy Hou .502 13.0 4.4 7.3 1.11 NYK .540 21.5 4.3 8.9 1.72
-1.33 Howard,Dwight LAL .556 18.0 13.0 1.9 1.73 Orl .550 22.1 14.9 2.0 2.27
-1.22 Iguodala,Andre Den .512 14.8 6.1 4.7 1.09 Phi .527 14.8 6.5 5.2 1.53
-1.22 Johnson,Joe Brk .523 17.9 3.2 3.6 .91 Atl .551 22.2 4.1 4.0 1.34
-1.07 Hawes,Spencer Phl .499 14.4 9.1 1.9 .99 Phi .512 15.7 10.7 3.6 1.60
-1.05 Lawson,Ty Den .482 15.2 2.8 7.1 1.05 .571 18.1 4.2 6.8 1.45
-1.02 Noah,Joakim Chi .521 13.1 10.7 3.9 1.44 .551 14.6 12.4 3.1 1.83
-1.01 Smith,Josh Atl .472 18.2 9.2 4.0 1.52 .490 21.2 10.7 4.2 1.95
-.96 Gortat,Marcin Phx .551 13.5 10.7 1.4 1.25 .568 18.4 11.8 1.0 1.64
-.96 Johnson,James Sac .433 9.2 5.4 1.9 .38 Tor .492 13.6 7.2 2.6 1.08
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484 2012 Eff% Sco Reb Ast e484
-.94 Hibbert,Roy Ind .428 13.0 10.9 2.0 1.15 .530 17.1 11.2 2.4 1.59
-.92 Gasol,Pau LAL .470 12.4 9.2 4.2 1.15 .539 18.5 10.7 3.5 1.68
-.90 Haywood,Brendan Cha .479 6.6 8.8 .8 .36 Dal .509 9.2 10.4 .6 .96
-.87 Green,Gerald Ind .457 12.4 4.5 1.1 .28 NJN .567 17.9 4.9 1.5 .81
-.86 Wade,Dwyane Mia .562 24.4 5.4 5.3 1.73 .549 27.9 5.9 5.7 2.15
-.83 Williams,Marvin Uta .536 12.9 5.4 1.3 .62 Atl .532 15.1 7.5 1.7 1.12
-.78 Ilyasova,Ersan Mil .491 13.9 8.3 2.2 1.03 .568 17.6 11.5 1.5 1.52
-.77 Bass,Brandon Bos .488 10.8 7.5 1.1 .62 .517 15.9 7.4 1.1 1.02
-.75 Brand,Elton Dal .496 11.0 10.1 1.6 .98 Phi .516 15.7 9.3 2.0 1.50
-.73 Terry,Jason Bos .545 13.9 2.8 2.7 .59 Dal .537 17.9 2.6 4.0 .93
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:23 pm
by Crow
Mike G wrote:[/code]How did Brook Lopez double his rebounding rate since last season?[/code]
He is about 15% above his career averages for OR% and DR%. Equal to his rookie season on OR%, still 10% below his rookie DR%.
I assume the answers to your question include in part that he is healthy now and perhaps trying to rebound harder compared to last season's brief return. Maybe the lineup mix is also different and / or the coaching instruction on who hits the glass and how hard is different. Maybe he is harder to box out now when playing with other rebounders. 30% of his time is with R Evans. The biggest minute Lopez-Evans lineups are great on rebounding.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eups/2013/ The majority of the very biggest minutes smallball Lopez-Wallace lineups are poor to very poor at rebounding.
Despite his personal stat improvement, team rebounds much better this season on both glasses without him than with.
http://www.82games.com/1213/12BKN15.HTM#onoff
In 2010-11 team rebounding showed little difference with /without.
In 2009-10 they were better with him than without.
J.E.'s Adjusted RAPM factor for rebounding for 2011 (and before I think) had him estimated as a modest negative impact on offensive rebounding and somewhat larger positive impact on defensive rebounding. I haven't calculated the average rating of centers.
Adjusted RAPM factors for the current season (and season and a half) would be interesting to see. "Pure" single season RAPM factor or maybe a RAPM and a boxscore mix as in overall xRAPM with prior information.
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:40 pm
by Mike G
As I did with the bottom 15 a few weeks ago, comparisons between eWins, PER, and Win Shares for the top 15 eWins gainers.
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- most 2013 - - eWins - - - - - PER - - - - Win Shares -
- improved - tm Min 2012 2013 eW+ 2012 2013 2012 2013 WS+
Morris,Marcus Hou 934 -.015 .070 1.66 3.8 12.6 -.083 .088 3.33
Stephenson,Lance Ind 1100 .014 .085 1.64 7.0 12.2 -.031 .128 3.64
Blatche,Andray Brk 833 .067 .159 1.59 10.6 23.4 -.011 .181 3.33
Westbrook,Russel Okl 1494 .171 .220 1.52 22.9 23.8 .163 .197 1.06
Sanders,Larry Mil 944 .076 .149 1.45 13.3 18.8 .072 .164 1.81
Bledsoe,Eric LAC 795 .052 .126 1.22 11.2 19.5 .022 .142 1.99
Durant,Kevin Okl 1626 .202 .238 1.22 26.2 29.0 .230 .303 2.47
Vucevic,Nikola Orl 1292 .096 .140 1.19 14.3 17.0 .109 .120 .30
Vasquez,Greivis NOH 1419 .088 .128 1.17 14.2 16.7 .064 .073 .27
Lopez,Robin NOH 1062 .075 .127 1.16 15.2 20.0 .115 .141 .58
Randolph,Zach Mem 1342 .132 .171 1.10 17.9 19.3 .135 .169 .95
Lopez,Brook Brk 1002 .133 .183 1.05 21.9 25.2 .091 .188 2.02
Lee,David GSW 1463 .139 .169 .93 19.7 19.7 .113 .158 1.37
Walker,Kemba Cha 1429 .086 .116 .89 14.9 19.5 .009 .096 2.59
Harden,James Hou 1619 .143 .167 .81 21.1 22.2 .230 .178 -1.75
I've converted eWins to per48 rates, so they'll be on the same scale as Win Shares.
The top 3 in eWins gained are also the top 3 (among these 15) in WS+
9 of 15 show even bigger gains in WS than in eW.
Harden is the big anomaly in WS. He could even win MIP.
Of 58 guards w >1000 minutes, Kemba Walker is #10 in PER and #34 in WS/48.
Greivis Vasquez is #44 in WS/48 and #20 in PER
Re: Most Improved 2012-13
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:53 pm
by Mike G
In 20 minutes I was able to process all players' PER and WS rates from last year to this year, to get most improved in those metrics (times minutes), with the season right at its midpoint.
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PER+ Player 2012 2013 WS+ Player 2012 2013
10662 Andray Blatche 10.6 23.4 3.64 Lance Stephenson -.031 .128
8219 Marcus Morris 3.8 12.6 3.33 Andray Blatche -.011 .181
6599 Eric Bledsoe 11.2 19.5 3.33 Marcus Morris -.083 .088
6573 Kemba Walker 14.9 19.5 2.64 Boris Diaw .019 .145
6481 Jrue Holiday 14.7 19.3 2.59 Kemba Walker .009 .096
5972 J.J. Hickson 14.9 20.0 2.47 Kevin Durant .230 .303
5720 Lance Stephenson 7.0 12.2 2.20 J.J. Hickson .066 .156
5192 Larry Sanders 13.3 18.8 2.02 Brook Lopez .091 .188
5098 Robin Lopez 15.2 20.0 2.01 Toney Douglas -.046 .078
4924 Carmelo Anthony 21.1 25.2 1.99 Eric Bledsoe .022 .142
4553 Kevin Durant 26.2 29.0 1.81 Larry Sanders .072 .164
4531 Metta World Peace 11.0 14.2 1.63 Kobe Bryant .132 .181
4357 Toney Douglas 7.1 12.7 1.46 Tristan Thompson .038 .091
4024 Ed Davis 14.2 18.4 1.37 Deron Williams .099 .144
3720 John Salmons 9.0 12.4 1.37 David Lee .113 .158
3604 Darren Collison 13.6 16.4 1.36 Jamal Crawford .069 .125
3577 Jose Calderon 16.7 19.8 1.24 DeShawn Stevenson -.014 .090
3548 Greivis Vasquez 14.2 16.7 1.23 Lamar Odom .014 .086
3488 Nikola Vucevic 14.3 17.0 1.22 Jason Kidd .104 .161
3464 Tyson Chandler 18.7 21.4 1.18 Will Bynum -.023 .088
PER+ is without meaningful units; it's just (PER2 - PER1)*Min