Team Sortable NBA +/-'s

[Mike G]

Here's the big list submitted by Crow.
It's still not quite sorted by team, since players traded midseason are shown with all their minutes in one place; currently by alphabetical team.

The Wins column adds up to 679 -- 717 positive and 38 negative.
With 749 games played (before last night), these wins account for (679/749) .906 of the total.
Last year, they sum to just 870, or (870/1230) .707 of the actual total.

Negative Wins are created below about -3.1 BPM this year.
Last year, it seems -2.4 is the cutoff.

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rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
11   Paul Millsap      PF   ATL   50   32.3   3.4   2.9   6.3   9.0
48   Al Horford         C   ATL   51   31.4   1.6   1.2   2.9   5.7
56   Mike Scott        PF   ATL   45   14.4   1.2   1.2   2.4   2.1
68   Tiago Splitter     C   ATL   36   16.1   -.5   2.0   1.5   1.7
91   Dennis Schroder   PG   ATL   49   21.0   1.8  -1.0    .8   2.4
162   Thabo Sefolosha  SF   ATL   45   24.0  -2.2   1.9   -.3   1.9
194   Kyle Korver      SG   ATL   49   30.0  -1.2    .5   -.7   2.1
197   Kent Bazemore    SF   ATL   46   28.1   -.3   -.4   -.7   1.8
205   Walter Tavares    C   ATL   10    6.9  -1.1    .3   -.9    .1
237   Jeff Teague      PG   ATL   48   28.3    .8  -2.2  -1.3   1.5
313   Mike Muscala     PF   ATL   36   10.8  -2.0   -.3  -2.3    .2
346   Lamar Patterson  SG   ATL   34   11.6  -2.1   -.7  -2.8    .1
349   Shelvin Mack     PG   ATL   23    7.7  -1.5  -1.3  -2.8    .0
359   Tim Hardaway     SG   ATL   20   15.4  -1.9  -1.1  -3.0    .0
397   Justin Holiday   SG   ATL   25   10.4  -2.5  -1.4  -3.9   -.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
50   Brook Lopez        C   BKN   50   33.6    .4   2.4   2.7   6.0
121   Thaddeus Young   PF   BKN   50   32.4   -.3    .6    .3   3.4
125 R Hollis-Jefferson SG   BKN   19   22.1  -1.7   1.9    .3    .9
182   Jarrett Jack     PG   BKN   32   32.1    .6  -1.2   -.6   1.7
217   Willie Reed      PF   BKN   26   10.3  -1.2    .1  -1.1    .3
227   Joe Johnson      SF   BKN   50   34.2    .2  -1.4  -1.2   2.0
253   Donald Sloan     PG   BKN   30   19.1   -.2  -1.2  -1.4    .5
301   Shane Larkin     PG   BKN   46   20.4  -1.5   -.7  -2.2    .6
304   Thomas Robinson  PF   BKN   44    9.8  -2.6    .4  -2.2    .2
386   Sergey Karasev   SG   BKN   23    5.7  -1.8  -1.7  -3.5    .0
404   Wayne Ellington  SG   BKN   49   20.0  -3.2  -1.0  -4.2   -.6
424   Markel Brown     SG   BKN   31   10.6  -2.7  -2.2  -4.9   -.3
433   Andrea Bargnani   C   BKN   44   14.0  -2.6  -3.2  -5.8  -1.0
438   Bojan Bogdanovic SG   BKN   50   26.5  -2.3  -4.0  -6.3  -2.6

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
21   Kelly Olynyk       C   BOS   50   20.8   1.3   3.1   4.4   4.8
27   Jae Crowder       SF   BOS   51   32.0   2.0   1.9   3.8   7.1
31   Jared Sullinger    C   BOS   50   23.4    .2   3.4   3.6   4.9
33   Amir Johnson      PF   BOS   48   23.7    .6   2.9   3.5   4.6
62   Isaiah Thomas     PG   BOS   51   32.4   4.3  -2.4   1.9   5.1
160   Marcus Smart     PG   BOS   30   27.3  -1.6   1.3   -.2   1.4
172   Jonas Jerebko    PF   BOS   50   13.7  -1.7   1.3   -.4   1.2
202   Avery Bradley    PG   BOS   46   32.7    .3  -1.1   -.8   2.1
226   Jordan Mickey    PF   BOS    3    2.0  -1.2    .0  -1.2    .0
245   David Lee        PF   BOS   30   15.7  -2.3    .9  -1.4    .5
274   Tyler Zeller      C   BOS   33    9.5  -2.4    .7  -1.7    .3
354   R.J. Hunter      SG   BOS   24   10.3  -2.4   -.5  -2.9    .0
371   Evan Turner      SG   BOS   51   26.9  -2.7   -.5  -3.2   -.1
378   James Young      SG   BOS   20    8.1  -2.3  -1.0  -3.3    .0
419   Terry Rozier     PG   BOS   18    5.9  -2.4  -2.2  -4.5   -.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
45   Marvin Williams   PF   CHA   49   29.3   2.0    .9   2.9   5.2
57   Kemba Walker      PG   CHA   48   35.7   2.2   -.1   2.1   5.5
94   Nicolas Batum     SG   CHA   40   34.8    .7    .1    .8   3.3
96   Spencer Hawes     PF   CHA   43   18.8  -1.3   2.1    .8   1.8
107   Al Jefferson      C   CHA   19   25.2  -1.2   1.7    .5   1.1
109   Cody Zeller       C   CHA   41   24.9  -1.4   1.9    .5   2.2
136   Jeremy Lamb      SG   CHA   39   21.5    .5   -.4    .1   1.6
191   Jeremy Lin       PG   CHA   46   27.4    .0   -.7   -.7   1.8
210   Tyler Hansbrough PF   CHA   28    9.6  -1.4    .4   -.9    .3
258   M Kidd-Gilchrist SF   CHA    3   32.7  -1.6    .1  -1.5    .0
268   Frank Kaminsky    C   CHA   48   21.5  -1.2   -.5  -1.6    .9
287   Troy Daniels     SG   CHA   26   11.0   -.3  -1.7  -2.0    .2
356   Aaron Harrison   SG   CHA   13    4.2  -1.8  -1.2  -2.9    .0
368   P.J. Hairston    SF   CHA   46   20.1  -1.6  -1.5  -3.1    .0
380   Brian Roberts    PG   CHA   29   11.4   -.8  -2.6  -3.4   -.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
17   Pau Gasol          C   CHI   46   31.9    .5   4.3   4.8   6.8
19   Jimmy Butler      SG   CHI   47   38.3   4.4    .2   4.6   8.3
77   Nikola Mirotic    PF   CHI   44   24.0    .1   1.1   1.2   2.9
82   Taj Gibson        PF   CHI   48   26.4  -1.3   2.3   1.0   3.0
92   Joakim Noah        C   CHI   29   21.9  -2.3   3.0    .8   1.6
179  Cristiano Felicio PF   CHI    4    2.3  -1.1    .6   -.5    .0
190   Cameron Bairstow PF   CHI   11    3.8  -1.6    .9   -.7    .1
239   Kirk Hinrich     SG   CHI   31   15.7  -1.0   -.4  -1.4    .5
252   Aaron Brooks     PG   CHI   38   16.0    .4  -1.9  -1.4    .6
297   Tony Snell       SF   CHI   46   21.1  -3.4   1.3  -2.1    .6
298   E'Twaun Moore    SG   CHI   36   17.1  -1.8   -.3  -2.1    .3
360   Bobby Portis     PF   CHI   28   15.0  -2.4   -.5  -3.0    .0
412   Doug McDermott   SF   CHI   47   21.7  -1.7  -2.8  -4.5   -.8
429   Derrick Rose     PG   CHI   42   32.2  -1.6  -3.7  -5.3  -1.7

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
5   LeBron James       SF   CLE   47   35.9   6.2   2.4   8.5  11.4
13   Kevin Love        PF   CLE   48   32.7   3.3   2.7   6.0   8.3
70   Tristan Thompson   C   CLE   48   28.0   -.1   1.6   1.5   3.6
76 Matthew Dellavedova PG   CLE   46   26.3   1.8   -.7   1.2   3.2
89   J.R. Smith        SG   CLE   44   30.3   1.6   -.7    .8   3.0
145   Sasha Kaun        C   CLE    9    4.3  -1.1   1.0   -.1    .1
147   Anderson Varejao PF   CLE   28    9.1  -2.0   2.0   -.1    .5
231   Iman Shumpert    SG   CLE   26   24.0  -1.8    .5  -1.3    .7
267   Timofey Mozgov    C   CLE   45   17.3  -2.6   1.0  -1.6    .7
275   Kyrie Irving     PG   CLE   22   28.6    .9  -2.6  -1.7    .5
299   Joe Harris       SG   CLE    5    3.0  -1.2  -1.0  -2.1    .0
300   James Jones      SG   CLE   35    9.6  -1.8   -.3  -2.2    .2
392  Richard Jefferson SF   CLE   44   18.8  -2.2  -1.5  -3.7   -.3
420   Mo Williams      PG   CLE   30   21.3  -1.8  -2.9  -4.7   -.6

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
24   Zaza Pachulia      C   DAL   47   29.6    .3   3.8   4.1   5.7
36   Dirk Nowitzki     PF   DAL   46   30.8   2.3   1.0   3.3   5.3
118   Salah Mejri       C   DAL   12   11.0   -.4    .8    .4    .3
143   Wesley Matthews  SG   DAL   48   33.2   1.3  -1.4    .0   2.8
146   Chandler Parsons SF   DAL   44   27.8    .3   -.4   -.1   2.1
148   Dwight Powell    PF   DAL   49   16.6  -2.4   2.3   -.1   1.5
168   JaVale McGee      C   DAL   30   11.3  -1.5   1.1   -.4    .5
195   Deron Williams   PG   DAL   43   31.9   -.1   -.6   -.7   2.0
246   Devin Harris     PG   DAL   40   19.6  -1.0   -.4  -1.4    .9
273   Jeremy Evans     SF   DAL   28    8.6  -1.7    .0  -1.7    .2
280   Justin Anderson  SG   DAL   30    8.2  -2.5    .7  -1.8    .2
306   Raymond Felton   PG   DAL   51   27.1   -.8  -1.4  -2.2    .7
358 Charlie Villanueva PF   DAL   42   12.0  -2.5   -.5  -3.0    .1
377   John Jenkins     SG   DAL   21    9.2  -2.1  -1.2  -3.3    .0
387   J.J. Barea       PG   DAL   46   22.3    .9  -4.4  -3.5   -.2

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
14   Nikola Jokic       C   DEN   48   19.9   2.6   2.9   5.4   4.7
54   Danilo Gallinari  SF   DEN   44   34.5   3.5  -1.0   2.5   5.1
119   Darrell Arthur   PF   DEN   46   20.7  -1.6   1.9    .3   2.0
130   Kenneth Faried   PF   DEN   43   26.4    .2    .0    .2   2.3
134   JJ Hickson        C   DEN   19   16.0  -1.4   1.5    .1    .6
163   Will Barton      SF   DEN   50   28.8   1.0  -1.2   -.3   2.5
173   Joffrey Lauvergne C   DEN   28   17.6   -.3   -.2   -.4    .8
241 Kostas Papanikolaou SF  DEN   26   11.3  -1.9    .6  -1.4    .3
242   Mike Miller      SG   DEN   36   8.3   -1.8    .4  -1.4    .3
261   Jusuf Nurkic      C   DEN   13   13.3  -2.2    .6  -1.5    .2
289   Gary Harris      SG   DEN   44   30.5    .0  -2.0  -2.0    .9
406   Jameer Nelson    PG   DEN   38   27.1  -1.2  -3.0  -4.2   -.7
421   Randy Foye       SG   DEN   50   19.6  -3.0  -1.8  -4.8  -1.0
432   Emmanuel Mudiay  PG   DEN   36   29.7  -3.3  -2.3  -5.6  -1.6

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
23   Andre Drummond     C   DET   51   33.6    .1   4.2   4.3   7.5
61   Reggie Jackson    PG   DET   51   31.0   4.3  -2.3   2.0   4.7
98   Anthony Tolliver  PF   DET   50   19.5    .2    .5    .7   2.2
102   Aron Baynes       C   DET   50   14.2   -.7   1.3    .6   1.6
116   Joel Anthony      C   DET   13   4.0   -1.2   1.6    .4    .1
117 Ken. Caldwell-Pope SG   DET   50   36.9    .2    .2    .4   3.9
124   Marcus Morris    PF   DET   50   36.2    .0    .3    .3   3.6
142   Ersan Ilyasova   PF   DET   50   27.8    .2   -.2    .0   2.5
229   Brandon Jennings PG   DET   20   17.6   -.1  -1.2  -1.2    .4
330   Jodie Meeks      SG   DET    2    8.5  -1.6  -1.0  -2.6    .0
367   Darrun Hilliard  SF   DET   19    6.9  -1.6  -1.5  -3.1    .0
369   Steve Blake      PG   DET   29   15.5  -1.2  -1.9  -3.1    .0
379   Stanley Johnson  SF   DET   51   23.3  -2.0  -1.4  -3.4   -.2
395  Spencer Dinwiddie PG   DET    9   12.3  -2.1  -1.6  -3.7    .0
414   Reggie Bullock   SF   DET   17    5.1  -2.8  -1.7  -4.5   -.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
1   Stephen Curry      PG   GS    47   33.8   9.2   1.7  10.9  14.3
3   Draymond Green     PF   GS    48   34.2   3.9   5.1   9.0  12.7
22   Andrew Bogut       C   GS    42   20.7  -1.2   5.5   4.3   4.1
44   Festus Ezeli       C   GS    40   17.8   -.2   3.2   3.0   2.9
55   Andre Iguodala    SF   GS    48   27.3   1.4   1.0   2.4   4.6
79   Klay Thompson     SG   GS    47   32.7   2.8  -1.6   1.2   4.3
131   Jason Thompson   PF   GS    25    6.7  -1.1   1.3    .2    .4
189   Leandro Barbosa  SG   GS    36   15.0   -.4   -.3   -.7    .8
223   Harrison Barnes  SF   GS    33   29.2    .1  -1.3  -1.2   1.2
248   Brandon Rush     SF   GS    40   16.1   -.5   -.9  -1.4    .7
262   James McAdoo     SF   GS    25    5.9  -1.4   -.1  -1.5    .2
318   Kevon Looney     SF   GS     1    6.0  -1.5   -.9  -2.4    .0
322   Ian Clark        SG   GS    42    9.7    .2  -2.6  -2.5    .2
381   Shaun Livingston PG   GS    46   19.5   -.7  -2.8  -3.4   -.2
391  Marreese Speights  C   GS    40   10.8  -2.7   -.8  -3.6   -.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
20   James Harden      SG   HOU   52   37.2   6.0  -1.6   4.4   9.0
25   Dwight Howard      C   HOU   41   31.9    .3   3.7   4.0   5.6
59   Clint Capela      PF   HOU   50   21.2  -1.4   3.4   2.0   3.4
93   Patrick Beverley  PG   HOU   41   26.4    .2    .6    .8   2.5
153   Trevor Ariza     SF   HOU   51   34.5    .5   -.6   -.2   3.1
247 Donatas Motiejunas PF   HOU   14   13.4  -1.6    .2  -1.4    .2
249   Marcus Thornton  SF   HOU   44   18.9    .9  -2.3  -1.4    .9
244   Josh Smith        C HOU/LAC 40   15.8  -3.0   1.6  -1.4    .7
251   Sam Dekker       SF   HOU    3    2.0  -1.5    .1  -1.4    .0
260   Montrezl Harrell PF   HOU   25   10.3  -1.3   -.3  -1.5    .3
279   Jason Terry      SG   HOU   43   17.1    .1  -1.9  -1.8    .6
288   K.J. McDaniels   SG   HOU   16    3.9  -1.8   -.3  -2.0    .0
320   Corey Brewer     SG   HOU   52   21.1  -2.3   -.2  -2.5    .5
427   Ty Lawson        PG   HOU   45   24.1  -2.5  -2.6  -5.1  -1.3
430   Terrence Jones   PF   HOU   45   22.3  -2.1  -3.4  -5.4  -1.4

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
16   Paul George       SF   IND   49   35.5   3.5   1.3   4.8   8.5
29   Ian Mahinmi        C   IND   41   24.1   -.9   4.7   3.8   4.4
75   Jordan Hill        C   IND   45   22.0   -.9   2.2   1.2   2.6
123   George Hill      PG   IND   42   35.3    .2    .1    .3   3.1
129   Monta Ellis      SG   IND   49   33.7    .1    .1    .2   3.4
157   Lavoy Allen      PF   IND   48   21.8  -2.2   2.0   -.2   1.8
181 Shayne Whittington PF   IND    4    2.5  -1.2    .7   -.6    .0
271   Myles Turner     PF   IND   27   19.3  -1.7    .0  -1.7    .4
293   C.J. Miles       SF   IND   44   25.5   -.6  -1.4  -2.1    .8
295   Chase Budinger   SF   IND   40   15.7  -1.6   -.4  -2.1    .4
303   Solomon Hill     SF   IND   27   11.0  -1.5   -.7  -2.2    .2
352   Glenn Robinson   SG   IND   34   11.6  -1.9  -1.0  -2.9    .1
366   Joe Young        PG   IND   24    8.8  -1.1  -1.9  -3.0    .0
374   Rodney Stuckey   PG   IND   33   25.0  -1.7  -1.6  -3.2   -.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
7   Chris Paul         PG   LAC   44   32.5   5.8   1.1   6.9   8.7
8   DeAndre Jordan      C   LAC   47   33.5   1.1   5.5   6.6   9.2
51   Blake Griffin     PF   LAC   30   34.9   2.0    .7   2.7   3.9
67   Cole Aldrich       C   LAC   27   11.7   -.5   2.1   1.7    .9
105   Wesley Johnson   SF   LAC   49   18.8  -1.3   1.8    .5   2.1
159   J.J. Redick      SG   LAC   45   27.8   3.0  -3.2   -.2   2.2
233   Pablo Prigioni   PG   LAC   29   13.9  -1.5    .2  -1.3    .4
256   Luc Mbah a Moute PF   LAC   47   16.2  -2.5   1.0  -1.5    .8
317   Branden Dawson   SF   LAC    2    6.5  -1.5   -.9  -2.4    .0
327   Lance Stephenson SF   LAC   39   15.5  -2.1   -.4  -2.6    .2
333   Paul Pierce      SF   LAC   45   17.4  -2.4   -.2  -2.6    .3
343   C.J. Wilcox      SG   LAC    7    3.0  -1.4  -1.3  -2.7    .0
400   Austin Rivers    PG   LAC   46   21.6  -2.6  -1.4  -4.0   -.6
410   Jamal Crawford   SG   LAC   49   25.6   -.7  -3.7  -4.4  -1.0

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
95   Brandon Bass      PF   LAL   44   18.4   -.4   1.2    .8   1.8
137   Tarik Black       C   LAL   17   11.6  -1.4   1.4    .1    .3
165   Metta WorldPeace SF   LAL   19   17.5  -1.9   1.6   -.3    .6
185   Roy Hibbert       C   LAL   52   24.8  -2.8   2.2   -.6   2.0
203   Larry Nance      PF   LAL   40   20.3  -2.3   1.5   -.8   1.2
235   Robert Sacre      C   LAL   16   12.6  -1.8    .5  -1.3    .2
250   Ryan Kelly       PF   LAL   19   13.2  -1.9    .5  -1.4    .3
283   Louis Williams   SG   LAL   49   29.6   1.4  -3.3  -1.9   1.0
332   Marcelo Huertas  PG   LAL   29   11.4  -1.4  -1.2  -2.6    .1
357   D'Angelo Russell PG   LAL   50   27.0   -.9  -2.0  -3.0    .1
364   Julius Randle    PF   LAL   51   27.2  -2.6   -.4  -3.0    .1
365   Jordan Clarkson  PG   LAL   50   32.2   -.4  -2.7  -3.0    .1
403   Kobe Bryant      SF   LAL   42   29.0   -.1  -4.0  -4.1   -.7
408   Anthony Brown    SF   LAL   24   19.6  -3.5   -.8  -4.3   -.4
431   Nick Young       SF   LAL   42   19.0  -2.2  -3.2  -5.5  -1.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
47   Marc Gasol         C   MEM   49   34.9    .3   2.5   2.9   6.1
71   Mike Conley       PG   MEM   43   31.4   2.8  -1.5   1.4   3.6
86   Tony Allen        SG   MEM   42   24.8  -2.2   3.0    .9   2.4
128   Matt Barnes      SF   MEM   45   26.4   -.7    .9    .2   2.5
170   Courtney Lee     SG   MEM   47   29.5   -.7    .3   -.4   2.3
236   Jarell Martin    PF   MEM    2    4.5  -1.6    .3  -1.3    .0
277   Jeff Green       SF   MEM   49   28.8   -.5  -1.3  -1.8   1.1
305   Zach Randolph    PF   MEM   44   28.6   -.4  -1.8  -2.2    .7
312   Jordan Adams     SG   MEM    2    7.5  -1.5   -.7  -2.3    .0
339   JaMychal Green   PF   MEM   47   14.5  -2.8    .2  -2.7    .2
347   Brandan Wright   PF   MEM    7   17.1  -1.3  -1.5  -2.8    .0
383   Vince Carter     SG   MEM   31   12.9  -2.9   -.5  -3.4   -.1
394   Russ Smith       PG   MEM   15    4.4  -1.3  -2.4  -3.7    .0

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
15   Chris Bosh        PF   MIA   50   33.5   2.9   2.1   5.0   7.8
81   Hassan Whiteside   C   MIA   42   28.6  -2.7   3.7   1.1   3.0
138   Josh McRoberts   PF   MIA   24   14.9  -1.2   1.3    .0    .6
158   Goran Dragic     PG   MIA   41   32.3    .2   -.4   -.2   2.2
161   Dwyane Wade      SG   MIA   47   30.2   1.3  -1.6   -.3   2.4
175  Amar'e Stoudemire PF   MIA   22   14.1  -1.6   1.1   -.5    .4
178   Chris Andersen   PF   MIA    7    5.1  -1.3    .8   -.5    .1
184   Mario Chalmers   PG MIA/MEM 46   22.1    .4  -1.0   -.6   1.6
192   Tyler Johnson    SG   MIA   36   24.0    .3  -1.0   -.7   1.3
216   Luol Deng        SF   MIA   43   31.3  -1.1    .0  -1.1   1.6
219   Jarnell Stokes   PF MIA/MEM  6    2.5  -1.5    .3  -1.1    .0
234   Udonis Haslem    PF   MIA   25    8.0  -2.1    .8  -1.3    .2
315   Gerald Green     SF   MIA   44   25.8   -.4  -2.0  -2.3    .5
314   James Ennis      SF MIA/MEM 10    3.5  -1.2  -1.1  -2.3    .0
329   Justise Winslow  SF   MIA   47   27.8  -3.8   1.2  -2.6    .4
351   Beno Udrih       PG MIA/MEM 38   16.3  -1.7  -1.2  -2.9    .1
423   Josh Richardson  SG   MIA   23   11.5  -3.6  -1.3  -4.9   -.3

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
37   Greg Monroe        C   MIL   49   30.4   1.4   1.7   3.1   5.6
65   Khris Middleton   SG   MIL   51   36.0   3.4  -1.6   1.8   5.4
140  M Carter-Williams PG   MIL   46   30.7   -.6    .6    .0   2.6
141   John Henson      PF   MIL   42   16.7  -1.8   1.8    .0   1.3
151 Gia. Antetokounmpo SF   MIL   49   34.6   -.1    .0   -.1   3.0
238   Miles Plumlee     C   MIL   30    8.8  -1.3    .0  -1.3    .3
269   O.J. Mayo        SG   MIL   29   27.1  -1.2   -.4  -1.7    .7
294   Jerryd Bayless   PG   MIL   33   28.2   -.3  -1.8  -2.1    .6
309   Damien Inglis    SF   MIL    8    5.3  -2.1   -.1  -2.2    .0
331   Chris Copeland   SF   MIL   24    6.5  -1.7   -.9  -2.6    .1
385   Jabari Parker    PF   MIL   45   28.5  -1.9  -1.6  -3.5   -.3
401   Greivis Vasquez  PG   MIL   16   22.6  -1.3  -2.8  -4.1   -.2
402   Tyler Ennis      PG   MIL   23    8.7  -2.2  -1.9  -4.1   -.1
416   Johnny O'Bryant  PF   MIL   46   14.3  -3.1  -1.4  -4.5   -.6
436   Rashad Vaughn    SG   MIL   43   11.7  -3.9  -2.3  -6.2   -.9

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
18   Ricky Rubio       PG   MIN   45   30.2   2.0   2.8   4.8   6.3
41   Kevin Garnett     PF   MIN   38   14.6  -1.5   4.5   3.0   2.1
69   Karl-Anthony Towns C   MIN   51   29.8   -.2   1.7   1.5   4.1
90   Gorgui Dieng       C   MIN   51   24.8  -1.7   2.5    .8   2.8
149   Nemanja Bjelica  PF   MIN   44   18.2   -.7    .6   -.1   1.5
232   Adreian Payne    PF   MIN   31    9.4  -2.0    .7  -1.3    .3
278   Nikola Pekovic    C   MIN   12   13.0  -1.5   -.3  -1.8    .1
285   Damjan Rudez     SF   MIN   19    9.2   -.8  -1.1  -2.0    .1
291   Andre Miller     PG   MIN   23   10.8   -.2  -1.9  -2.0    .1
345   Zach LaVine      PG   MIN   51   23.8    .6  -3.3  -2.7    .3
373   Andrew Wiggins   SG   MIN   50   35.2    .6  -3.8  -3.2   -.1
396   Kevin Martin     SG   MIN   35   22.6  -1.0  -2.7  -3.8   -.3
409   Tayshaun Prince  SF   MIN   51   21.5  -4.2   -.1  -4.4   -.8
425   Tyus Jones       PG   MIN    9   10.9  -2.2  -2.7  -5.0   -.1
439   Shabazz Muhammad SF   MIN   51   20.2  -1.4  -5.1  -6.5  -2.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
46   Anthony Davis     PF   NO    43   35.6    .3   2.6   2.9   5.5
64   Tyreke Evans      SG   NO    25   30.6   1.8    .0   1.8   2.3
80   Jrue Holiday      PG   NO    43   25.8   2.8  -1.7   1.1   2.8
97   Omer Asik          C   NO    42   17.1  -2.7   3.3    .7   1.6
127   Alexis Ajinca     C   NO    38   11.9  -1.3   1.5    .2    .9
183   Ryan Anderson    PF   NO    47   31.5   2.0  -2.5   -.6   2.3
204   Kendrick Perkins  C   NO    10    8.9  -1.0    .1   -.9    .1
263   Eric Gordon      SG   NO    41   33.4    .4  -1.9  -1.6   1.4
266   Alonzo Gee       SF   NO    49   21.6  -3.0   1.4  -1.6   1.0
296   Dante Cunningham PF   NO    47   19.4  -1.9   -.2  -2.1    .6
326 Bryce Dejean-Jones SG   NO     8   21.1  -1.2  -1.3  -2.5    .0
361   Luke Babbitt     SF   NO    22   13.7  -1.6  -1.4  -3.0    .0
375   Jimmer Fredette  PG   NO     4    3.3  -1.8  -1.5  -3.2    .0
434   Norris Cole      PG   NO    32   25.5  -3.0  -3.0  -6.0  -1.3
270   Ish Smith        PG NO/PHI  45   26.1   -.2  -1.5  -1.7   1.1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
28   Carmelo Anthony   SF   NY    46   34.7   3.4    .4   3.8   6.3
38  Kristaps Porzingis PF   NY    51   27.9    .5   2.6   3.1   5.2
111   Kyle O'Quinn     PF   NY    41   11.4  -1.0   1.5    .5   1.0
166   Jose Calderon    PG   NY    48   27.4   1.1  -1.4   -.3   2.2
167  Langston Galloway SG   NY    52   25.0    .7  -1.1   -.3   2.0
196   Robin Lopez       C   NY    52   25.3  -1.8   1.1   -.7   1.8
214   Lou Amundson     PF   NY    21    7.7  -1.7    .7  -1.0    .2
230   Derrick Williams PF   NY    51   17.2    .4  -1.6  -1.2   1.0
254   Cleanthony Early SF   NY    10    3.4  -1.4   -.1  -1.4    .0
284   Arron Afflalo    SG   NY    44   33.7    .9  -2.9  -2.0   1.0
310   Kevin Seraphin    C   NY    31   10.6  -3.4   1.2  -2.2    .2
325 Tha. Antetokounmpo SF   NY     2    3.0  -1.2  -1.3  -2.5    .0
337   Lance Thomas     SF   NY    49   22.0   -.6  -2.0  -2.7    .3
384   Sasha Vujacic    SG   NY    35   12.8  -3.1   -.4  -3.4   -.1
415   Jerian Grant     PG   NY    49   15.8  -3.1  -1.4  -4.5   -.6

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
2   Russell Westbrook  PG   OKC   51   34.3   8.0   1.3   9.3  13.4
12   Kevin Durant      SF   OKC   44   36.0   5.6    .6   6.2   9.0
60   Steven Adams       C   OKC   49   24.8  -1.1   3.1   2.0   3.7
169   Serge Ibaka      PF   OKC   51   32.6  -1.2    .8   -.4   2.8
198   Nick Collison    PF   OKC   42   12.3  -2.0   1.2   -.8    .8
199   Andre Roberson   SG   OKC   45   21.7  -2.5   1.7   -.8   1.5
207   Steve Novak      SF   OKC    5    4.2  -1.0    .1   -.9    .0
208   Cameron Payne    PG   OKC   34   11.5    .3  -1.1   -.9    .5
225   Anthony Morrow   SG   OKC   45   14.6    .6  -1.8  -1.2    .8
272   Mitch McGary     PF   OKC   14    4.0  -1.7    .1  -1.7    .1
321   Enes Kanter       C   OKC   51   20.6    .4  -2.9  -2.5    .4
342   D.J. Augustin    PG   OKC   34   15.3  -1.5  -1.2  -2.7    .1
372   Kyle Singler     SF   OKC   40   12.8  -3.2    .0  -3.2    .0
399   Dion Waiters     SG   OKC   51   27.9  -1.3  -2.7  -4.0   -.8

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
26   Channing Frye     PF   ORL   42   17.5   1.1   2.9   4.0   3.1
84   Victor Oladipo    SG   ORL   44   30.7    .8    .3   1.0   3.2
87   Tobias Harris     SF   ORL   48   33.0    .0    .9    .9   3.7
110   Nikola Vucevic    C   ORL   45   31.6    .1    .3    .5   2.9
133   Evan Fournier    SG   ORL   48   30.8   1.3  -1.2    .1   2.8
154   Dewayne Dedmon    C   ORL   30   10.8  -2.3   2.2   -.2    .6
174   Aaron Gordon     PF   ORL   47   21.0   -.2   -.3   -.4   1.5
187   Jason Smith      PF   ORL   43   14.8  -1.6   1.0   -.6    .9
224   Andrew Nicholson PF   ORL   34   15.6  -1.8    .6  -1.2    .6
259   Elfrid Payton    PG   ORL   44   29.3  -1.0   -.5  -1.5   1.2
276   C.J. Watson      PG   ORL    8   19.5  -1.0   -.8  -1.7    .1
355   Keith Appling    PG   ORL    4    6.3  -1.2  -1.7  -2.9    .0
363   Devyn Marble     SF   ORL    8    2.5  -1.7  -1.4  -3.0    .0
398   Shabazz Napier   PG   ORL   40   12.4  -1.3  -2.7  -3.9   -.2
417   Mario Hezonja    SG   ORL   45   14.7  -2.2  -2.3  -4.5   -.5

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
115   Carl Landry      PF   PHI   12   13.0   -.5    .9    .4    .3
122   Robert Covington SF   PHI   40   26.9  -1.8   2.1    .3   2.3
155   T.J. McConnell   PG   PHI   49   20.9   -.3    .1   -.2   1.9
176   Nerlens Noel     PF   PHI   43   29.0  -3.8   3.3   -.5   2.1
222   Richaun Holmes   PF   PHI   36   14.1    .6  -1.8  -1.2    .6
257   Jerami Grant     SF   PHI   47   25.4  -2.0    .5  -1.5   1.3
282   Christian Wood   PF   PHI   14    8.1  -1.1   -.8  -1.9    .1
290   Phil Pressey     PG   PHI   14   12.1  -1.1  -1.0  -2.0    .1
344   Isaiah Canaan    PG   PHI   48   24.5   -.8  -2.0  -2.7    .3
388   Hollis Thompson  SG   PHI   47   26.7  -1.4  -2.1  -3.5   -.3
411   JaKarr Sampson   SG   PHI   46   14.9  -3.4  -1.0  -4.4   -.6
426   Tony Wroten      SG   PHI    8   18.0  -2.7  -2.3  -5.0   -.2
428   Jahlil Okafor     C   PHI   43   30.4  -3.6  -1.5  -5.2  -1.7
435   Nik Stauskas     SG   PHI   43   23.9  -3.2  -2.9  -6.1  -1.9

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
43   Eric Bledsoe      PG   PHX   31   34.2   2.4    .6   3.0   4.2
108   Ronnie Price     PG   PHX   34   14.8   -.6   1.1    .5   1.2
126   Jon Leuer        PF   PHX   43   20.2   -.6    .8    .2   1.9
144   Mirza Teletovic  PF   PHX   49   18.2   1.7  -1.8    .0   1.7
211   P.J. Tucker      SF   PHX   51   29.3  -1.6    .6  -1.0   1.9
212   Tyson Chandler    C   PHX   42   23.3  -3.4   2.4  -1.0   1.3
220   Alex Len          C   PHX   48   19.6  -3.6   2.5  -1.1   1.1
255   Cory Jefferson   PF   PHX    8    6.3  -1.2   -.3  -1.5    .0
281   Brandon Knight   PG   PHX   42   36.3   1.4  -3.3  -1.9   1.2
308   Jordan McRae     SG   PHX    4   13.8   -.7  -1.5  -2.2    .0
316   T.J. Warren      SF   PHX   47   22.8    .3  -2.7  -2.3    .6
328   Markieff Morris  PF   PHX   34   23.9  -2.8    .2  -2.6    .3
390   Bryce Cotton     PG   PHX    3   11.0  -1.4  -2.2  -3.5    .0
393   Sonny Weems      SG   PHX   29   11.7  -1.9  -1.8  -3.7   -.1
413   Archie Goodwin   SG   PHX   31   18.5  -1.3  -3.2  -4.5   -.4
418   Devin Booker     SG   PHX   45   22.5   -.1  -4.4  -4.5   -.8

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
34   Mason Plumlee      C   POR   51   25.7    .2   3.1   3.3   5.2
39   Ed Davis           C   POR   50   21.3    .6   2.4   3.1   3.8
72   Damian Lillard    PG   POR   44   36.0   4.5  -3.2   1.3   4.2
74   C.J. McCollum     SG   POR   49   35.0   2.5  -1.2   1.3   4.5
85   Al-Farouq Aminu   SF   POR   51   29.1   -.6   1.6    .9   3.6
180   Chris Kaman       C   POR    8    8.0  -1.7   1.2   -.6    .1
213   Meyers Leonard   PF   POR   44   23.5    .2  -1.1  -1.0   1.3
264   Cliff Alexander  PF   POR    7    4.4  -1.6    .1  -1.6    .0
324   Allen Crabbe     SG   POR   51   26.2   -.2  -2.3  -2.5    .5
336   Noah Vonleh      PF   POR   50   16.0  -3.6    .9  -2.6    .2
350   Luis Montero     SG   POR    7    3.3  -1.1  -1.7  -2.8    .0
382   Pat Connaughton  SG   POR   20    2.9  -2.2  -1.2  -3.4    .0
405   Maurice Harkless SF   POR   49   16.6  -2.4  -1.8  -4.2   -.5
407   Gerald Henderson SG   POR   42   17.0  -2.1  -2.1  -4.2   -.4

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
4   Kawhi Leonard      SF    SA   47   32.5   4.6   4.3   8.9  11.1
10   Tim Duncan         C    SA   37   25.9   -.5   6.8   6.3   5.7
32   Manu Ginobili     SG    SA   43   19.7   2.3   1.2   3.5   3.5
40   Boban Marjanovic   C    SA   30    8.4   1.8   1.2   3.0   1.0
49   David West        PF    SA   48   17.0    .0   2.8   2.8   2.9
73   Boris Diaw         C    SA   49   18.8    .4    .9   1.3   2.5
88   Matt Bonner        C    SA   19    5.8   -.3   1.1    .8    .3
101   Tony Parker      PG    SA   45   26.8   1.2   -.6    .6   2.7
104   Kyle Anderson    SF    SA   46   12.9   -.9   1.5    .6   1.3
106   Patty Mills      PG    SA   49   20.2   1.1   -.6    .5   2.2
114  LaMarcus Aldridge PF    SA   45   29.5   -.7   1.1    .4   2.8
152   Jonathon Simmons SG    SA   35   13.5    .6   -.7   -.1    .9
171   Danny Green      SG    SA   49   25.3  -1.1    .7   -.4   2.0
200   Rasual Butler    SF    SA   33    8.8  -1.3    .5   -.8    .4
340   Ray McCallum     PG    SA   22    9.5   -.8  -1.9  -2.7    .1

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
9   DeMarcus Cousins    C   SAC   40   34.2   2.7   3.9   6.6   8.6
53   Omri Casspi       SF   SAC   44   29.6    .3   2.2   2.5   4.7
83  Willie Cauley-Stein C   SAC   35   19.9   -.4   1.4   1.0   1.7
120   Rajon Rondo      PG   SAC   47   35.0    .8   -.5    .3   3.6
150   Rudy Gay         SF   SAC   43   34.3    .5   -.6   -.1   2.8
164   Quincy Acy       SF   SAC   26   11.7   -.6    .3   -.3    .5
243   Eric Moreland    PF   SAC    5    4.8  -1.3   -.1  -1.4    .0
286   Kosta Koufos      C   SAC   48   20.0  -2.5    .5  -2.0    .7
302   Darren Collison  PG   SAC   44   28.4    .9  -3.1  -2.2    .7
334   James Anderson   SG   SAC   27   10.4  -2.8    .2  -2.6    .1
341   Caron Butler     SF   SAC    9    9.6  -2.1   -.7  -2.7    .0
362   Ben McLemore     SG   SAC   48   21.2  -1.5  -1.5  -3.0    .1
437   Marco Belinelli  SG   SAC   48   25.8  -2.0  -4.3  -6.3  -2.4

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
6   Kyle Lowry         PG   TOR   50   36.7   5.5   2.1   7.6  11.5
99   Patrick Patterson PF   TOR   50   24.3    .2    .5    .7   2.6
100   DeMar DeRozan    SG   TOR   50   36.2   3.0  -2.4    .6   4.0
132   Jonas Valanciunas C   TOR   33   26.3   -.4    .6    .2   1.6
139   Luis Scola       PF   TOR   50   23.0   -.6    .6    .0   2.2
156   James Johnson    PF   TOR   40   15.4  -1.1    .9   -.2   1.1
177   Bismack Biyombo   C   TOR   50   22.6  -4.6   4.1   -.5   1.7
193   Lucas Nogueira    C   TOR   16    8.1   -.6   -.1   -.7    .2
206   Terrence Ross    SF   TOR   44   23.6   -.6   -.3   -.9   1.3
209   Cory Joseph      PG   TOR   50   25.8   -.3   -.6   -.9   1.6
221   DeMarre Carroll  SF   TOR   23   32.0  -1.4    .2  -1.2    .9
311   Anthony Bennett  PF   TOR   14    5.1  -2.0   -.3  -2.3    .0
335   Delon Wright     PG   TOR   12    3.0  -1.5  -1.1  -2.6    .0
348   Bruno Caboclo    SF   TOR    2    1.0  -1.5  -1.3  -2.8    .0
353   Norman Powell    SG   TOR   22    5.8  -2.6   -.3  -2.9    .0

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
30   Rudy Gobert        C   UTAH  28   32.9   -.3   4.1   3.8   3.4
35   Gordon Hayward    SF   UTAH  48   35.7   3.5   -.2   3.3   6.3
58   Derrick Favors    PF   UTAH  31   32.1    .5   1.5   2.1   2.9
66   Jeff Withey        C   UTAH  38   14.7   -.9   2.7   1.8   1.6
78   Rodney Hood       SG   UTAH  46   30.8   2.4  -1.2   1.2   3.4
135   Trevor Booker    PF   UTAH  46   22.7  -2.5   2.6    .1   1.9
186   Joe Ingles       SF   UTAH  47   14.3   -.2   -.4   -.6   1.0
188   Tibor Pleiss      C   UTAH  12    6.8  -1.4    .8   -.7    .1
218   Elijah Millsap   SG   UTAH  20    8.7  -1.6    .5  -1.1    .2
228   J.J. O'Brien     SF   UTAH   2    3.0  -1.5    .2  -1.2    .0
319   Raul Neto        PG   UTAH  47   19.6  -1.6   -.9  -2.4    .4
323   Alec Burks       SG   UTAH  28   27.1   -.8  -1.8  -2.5    .3
338   Trey Burke       PG   UTAH  48   24.1   1.0  -3.7  -2.7    .3
370   Trey Lyles       PF   UTAH  46   17.9  -3.1    .0  -3.1    .0

rk     player          pos   tm   G    MPG   ORPM  DRPM   RPM  Wins
42   John Wall         PG   WSH   47   35.9   2.9    .1   3.0   6.4
52   Nene Hilario       C   WSH   26   18.7   -.1   2.8   2.6   1.7
63   Jared Dudley      SF   WSH   46   28.6   1.2    .6   1.8   4.1
103   Garrett Temple   SG   WSH   45   25.6    .4    .1    .6   2.6
112   Marcin Gortat     C   WSH   41   31.3  -2.2   2.6    .4   2.8
113   Otto Porter      SF   WSH   40   30.9    .0    .4    .4   2.7
215   Ramon Sessions   PG   WSH   47   20.8    .6  -1.6  -1.0   1.3
240   DeJuan Blair      C   WSH   27    7.8  -1.8    .5  -1.4    .2
265   Jarell Eddie     SG   WSH   13    6.0  -1.0   -.6  -1.6    .1
292   Kris Humphries   PF   WSH   27   17.1  -1.7   -.3  -2.0    .3
307   Drew Gooden      PF   WSH   18   13.2  -1.8   -.4  -2.2    .1
376   Bradley Beal     SG   WSH   26   32.1   -.6  -2.7  -3.3   -.1
389   Kelly Oubre      SF   WSH   39   12.6  -2.0  -1.5  -3.5   -.1
422   Gary Neal        PG   WSH   38   20.4   -.2  -4.6  -4.8   -.8
201   Ryan Hollins     C  WSH/MEM 15    9.9  -1.4    .6   -.8    .1

Totals by position:

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pos   %Min    ORPM    DRPM     RPM
PG    .224    .85    -1.18    -.33
SG    .216    .05    -1.30   -1.25
SF    .195    .00     -.10    -.10
PF    .196   -.41      .93     .52
C     .169   -.68     2.27    1.58

[Crow]

Thanks Mike.

"With 749 games played (before last night), these wins account for (679/749) .906 of the total.
Last year, they sum to just 870, or (870/1230) .707 of the actual total."

Wow. These discoveries need explanations or major corrections. Is the current year issue as simple as a couple days data lag? But the huge discrepancy last season isn't because of that. I wonder if game state adjustments for garbage time are any part of this issue. I wonder if this issue is just with RPM or extends to all RAPM in past. Until certified as a measure properly distributing all wins, it is suspect to me.

I got the same league wide win totals as you did from summing the "wins" column.

Does this affect all teams equally or differently? Differently. Very differently relative to actual wins. I'll check pyth. wins trend but last nights game in today's data will cause some trouble. Rough check, these are quite different too.

Does minutes * RPM have a similar issue or does it hit zero? It does not hit zero. Off by 3060.116 points or about 4.5 per game. Is home court edge factor in model a part of this discrepancy? Other? Accounting for players who changed teams? And it is 3060 pts too many. Was there something off about the conversion to the seemingly too short wins? Are there multiple problems? May be many problems. Total minutes in my RPM data pull and comparing to what BR has now and backing out last night game minutes, it appears the RPM data pull has 2141.6 more minutes than I expected.

Some of these quick concerns / tests might be off for some reason unknown to me but this really needs a thorough explanation. The appearance is too many minutes and points, too few games and wins.

[Crow]

It is not clear to me if RPM wins are supposed to match actual wins or Pythagorean wins. Definition on RPM does not answer this question for me. I would have guessed actual wins. If it is pyth. wins and has to be, ok, lets clarify what it is; but that would be a disappointing step away from reality.

[Crow]

Are the priors creating the wins mismatch or a portion of it?

[ilardi]

Crow and Mike,

As the "culprit" behind both WAR and RPM Wins (different metrics), I'll do my best to address the important questions you've raised about them.

First, we published WAR (wins above replacement-level) for the 2013-14 and 2014-15 seasons, but this season switched to RPM Wins, which drops reference to the mythical "replacement player" and simply estimates the total wins contributed by each player. For WAR, we relied initially on Daniel Myers' work from a couple of years ago that estimated a replacement-level impact of -2.35 pts/100 poss (although our own subsequent work suggests that -2.0 is probably a better estimate these days).

My own modeling suggested that a team of such replacement-level players could generate around 11 wins per year, so the remaining leaguewide wins ABOVE replacement would only be equal to roughly 1230-[11*30]=900 total WAR . . . pretty close to the actual WAR total of 870 last year.

For RPM Wins, I simply pro-rated the win value of each replacement-level possession (roughly 0.000126 wins/possession) and adjusted the WAR formula accordingly - obviating the need to reference "replacement-level players" at all in the resulting RPM Wins metric. The basic idea is: (Wins Above Replacement-Level) + (Replacement-Level Wins) = Wins.

Now, JE only runs the RPM model once per week, and we've typically posted an update for RPM and WINS each Monday based on play through the previous Sunday (sometimes only Saturday, depending on the play-by-play availability). They are not updated daily, only weekly. Thus, when Mike G summed up WINS yesterday, they were based on the state of play from the previous weekend. My quick-glance estimate is that 46 more wins occurred after our WINS numbers went up, so the numbers actually reconcile pretty well: an estimated 679 WINS compared with an actual 703 (749-46) wins. The 3.5% discrepancy is something we'll want to look at if it holds up at the end of season . . . no matter the source of error, it shouldn't be difficult to adjust!

[Mike G]

Ah, thank you, Steve. I didn't even notice more games had transpired since the 'current' season totals. By coincidence, I'd just downloaded last year's RPM and noticed the 'Wins' [not WAR] column alongside it. Then I was startled by inconsistency from last year to this year.

Wouldn't a more straightforward Wins formula just derive from Win% = .50 + RPM(Pythagorean) ?

[ilardi]

Wouldn't a more straightforward Wins formula just derive from Win% = .50 + RPM(Pythagorean) ?

Yes, good point. But the two approaches should be (roughly) mathematically equivalent . . . and I like being able to easily convert back and forth between WAR and WINS.

[Crow]

Still don't understand why total minutes on RPM page are higher ( rather than lower due to data lag) than BR total for teams. Apparent discrepancies of thousands of minutes and points leaguewide (maybe more if lags are involved) seem big enough to investigate.

Net RPM points leaguewide thousands higher than zero. Is the idea for O to the true centering point? Why this difference?

The replacement player comparisons seem like unnecessary complication to me. So every player is really better in terms of total wins than the appearance of the RPM win estimates. And a win last season isn't quite the same as this season. Any plans to shift past season data to same basis / presentation as this?

Are you pushing for team sortability at RPM pages, indifferent or resigned to no movement on this small change for greater presentation flexibility?

[Mike G]

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Net RPM points leaguewide thousands higher than zero. Is the idea for O to the true centering point? Why this difference?

Whoa -- another thing that totally evaded me. Even my position total table didn't ring any bell.

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pos   %Min    ORPM    DRPM     RPM
PG    .224    .85    -1.18    -.33
SG    .216    .05    -1.30   -1.25
SF    .195    .00     -.10    -.10
PF    .196   -.41      .93     .52
C     .169   -.68     2.27    1.58

total  1.0   -.19      .62     .43

I'd expect to see 1 and 3 zeroes.

[Crow]

I will guess that perhaps the RPM estimates were centered on zero once but maybe not every week?


Re: minutes
Between time I captured the RPM dataset and right now, ATL, BOS and BRK played two more games. Diffference in minutes looks about right for ATL but instead of 480 different BOS is only about 240 different. Suggesting BOS minutes were high in the RPM dataset. Same for CHI. I might guess that a few games got into the database twice. That would not be a huge deal. An attempt to help and check to see if it is something worse.

Well that might be premature hope. Looks like RPM database was missing about a game and a half of CLE compared to what BR implicitly had before 2 weekend games occurred and got added there. DEN a little high. I might check further but that is a start.

[J.E.]

Possession-weighed RPM is supposed to be 0

Some players, who e.g. have been cut, are not listed. That could distort things to a small degree

[Crow]

"Possession-weighed RPM is supposed to be 0"

Is it? Pace varies but if minutes weighted RPM is off by over 3000pts I am somewhat skeptical that possession weight is right on. Since it is possession based it might be nice see the possessions in addition to minutes but...

"Some players, who e.g. have been cut, are not listed. That could distort things to a small degree"
Yeah it could but the bigger problem appears to be too many minutes in the RPM database not too few.

fwiw...