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Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 12:23 am
by Mike G
Crow wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 12:11 am These are career to date impact estimates or to a certain year or peak?
Rookie season averages in these stats, by draft pick, 2013-2025

Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:30 pm
by DSMok1
Mike G wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:30 pm Yes.^^
I messed around with age adjustment and decided (again) not to bother.
Also "yes" for WShr, perW, and eWin.

Today's top-to-bottom spread is smallest yet! Down from 2.47 on Jan 9, to 1.91 now.
The whole field has improved since then, by an avg of .60 in MAE:
1.04 KPel
.89 DQin
.88 Crow
.80 Mgoo
.80 avgA
.73 WShr
.68 bpmW
.67 medi
.65 25pr
.63 dtka
.58 eWin
.47 Walr
.47 knar
.40 EExp
.40 bmgm
.37 Ebet
.24 perW
.16 DRKO
I do have detailed aging curves developed for BPM; next year we can include those.

Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 9:55 pm
by nbacouchside
DSMok1 wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:30 pm
Mike G wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 3:30 pm Yes.^^
I messed around with age adjustment and decided (again) not to bother.
Also "yes" for WShr, perW, and eWin.

Today's top-to-bottom spread is smallest yet! Down from 2.47 on Jan 9, to 1.91 now.
The whole field has improved since then, by an avg of .60 in MAE:
1.04 KPel
.89 DQin
.88 Crow
.80 Mgoo
.80 avgA
.73 WShr
.68 bpmW
.67 medi
.65 25pr
.63 dtka
.58 eWin
.47 Walr
.47 knar
.40 EExp
.40 bmgm
.37 Ebet
.24 perW
.16 DRKO
I do have detailed aging curves developed for BPM; next year we can include those.
👀

Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:36 pm
by DSMok1
I laid out a true BPM 2.0 projection system in this post:
viewtopic.php?p=37451#p37451

I just haven't gotten around to actually doing them ahead of the season.

I also have better priors now than those mentioned in that post

Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2026 1:55 pm
by Mike G
Everyone takes a beating from yesterday's season-best averages, by an avg of .17 -- none more than bpmW, by .27

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.   avg err   rmse   r^2          avg err   rmse   r^2
knar   6.38   7.72   .51      EExp   6.73   8.11   .47
DRKO   6.43   7.67   .52      dtka   6.82   8.22   .46
Walr   6.44   8.00   .48      eWin   6.99   8.66   .41
bmgm   6.47   7.81   .55      25pr   7.06   9.20   .35
bpmW   6.49   7.90   .50      Crow   7.15   8.86   .43
avgA   6.51   8.14   .47      perW   7.37   9.31   .34
WShr   6.54   8.68   .41      medi   7.52   9.15   .43
Mgoo   6.60   8.37   .45      KPel   7.91   9.53   .36
Ebet   6.70   7.98   .54      DQin   8.39  10.46   .32
https://www.basketball-reference.com/fr ... _prob.html

UPDATE Jan. 31 -- all of the top 8 change positions; no one below that.

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.   avg err   rmse   r^2          avg err   rmse   r^2
bmgm   6.40   7.85   .55      EExp   6.69   8.15   .47
bpmW   6.43   7.95   .50      dtka   6.87   8.31   .45
DRKO   6.43   7.75   .52      eWin   7.00   8.69   .41
knar   6.49   7.78   .51      25pr   7.20   9.30   .34
avgA   6.51   8.20   .47      Crow   7.22   8.89   .43
Walr   6.51   8.07   .48      perW   7.27   9.30   .35
Mgoo   6.61   8.41   .45      medi   7.60   9.24   .42
WShr   6.63   8.73   .41      KPel   7.88   9.58   .36
Ebet   6.63   7.99   .54      DQin   8.43  10.53   .31
New leader is BetMGM, a 2nd gambling entity I added on Jan. 5 [What I had called Vegas is now Ebet].
Last year at this time, they were a distant last place, almost 3 off the lead.
This is the 7th entry to be on top since mid-Nov and 4th in the last 8 days.