Re: Vote for the all-time top 60 players
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:28 pm
Right now, we have 108 votes cast. All but 4 candidates have received at least one vote.
There are 18 with 3 or more votes, and 33 have 2 or more. Again, the dilemma. I'm inclined to advance those top 18 and add 18 more.
Anyone who is withholding some of their votes might consider that they're holding the key to admitting a few more.
Cutting it off at 3, we'd not be electing Bob Cousy, who I have at #35. Next biggest omission, IMO, is Chris Webber.
Both players are unloved by contemporary stats, thanks to rather low shooting%. Both were acknowledged superstars in their time. Cousy was perennially all-NBA first team. He was the exemplary point guard of his generation.
When he retired after the 1962-63 season, Cousy was the alltime leader in minutes (regular seasons). He had almost twice as many assists (6604) as anyone else (Dick McGuire, 3419).
He was 3rd among all players in points (after Pettit and Schayes). He had scored 20% more than any other guard (Sharman).
His 4307 rebounds were more than 50% greater than any other guard (or G-F).
His TS% of .449 was 39th of 100 guards with the most minutes in the era.
Of 53 G with >5000 minutes, he ranks 24th in TS%. Also 9th in WS/48 and 3rd in PER (after Oscar and West) -- that 19.8 PER is well better than that of any other guard of his era: Sharman 18.2, Davies 18.0, Wanzer 17.2, Braun 15.8, McGuire 15.5, Gola 14.8 ...
In playoffs, Cousy had almost 50% more minutes than any non-Celtic (Pettit), more than 3 times as many assists (Slater Martin), 2nd to Baylor in points, most FT ...
There are 18 with 3 or more votes, and 33 have 2 or more. Again, the dilemma. I'm inclined to advance those top 18 and add 18 more.
Anyone who is withholding some of their votes might consider that they're holding the key to admitting a few more.
Cutting it off at 3, we'd not be electing Bob Cousy, who I have at #35. Next biggest omission, IMO, is Chris Webber.
Both players are unloved by contemporary stats, thanks to rather low shooting%. Both were acknowledged superstars in their time. Cousy was perennially all-NBA first team. He was the exemplary point guard of his generation.
When he retired after the 1962-63 season, Cousy was the alltime leader in minutes (regular seasons). He had almost twice as many assists (6604) as anyone else (Dick McGuire, 3419).
He was 3rd among all players in points (after Pettit and Schayes). He had scored 20% more than any other guard (Sharman).
His 4307 rebounds were more than 50% greater than any other guard (or G-F).
His TS% of .449 was 39th of 100 guards with the most minutes in the era.
Of 53 G with >5000 minutes, he ranks 24th in TS%. Also 9th in WS/48 and 3rd in PER (after Oscar and West) -- that 19.8 PER is well better than that of any other guard of his era: Sharman 18.2, Davies 18.0, Wanzer 17.2, Braun 15.8, McGuire 15.5, Gola 14.8 ...
In playoffs, Cousy had almost 50% more minutes than any non-Celtic (Pettit), more than 3 times as many assists (Slater Martin), 2nd to Baylor in points, most FT ...