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Re: Trivia
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:32 pm
by Mike G
Last night, Klay Thompson had 44 points in just 27 minutes of play.
However this game does not make the list of
most points in fewest minutes.Code: Select all
who yr Min Pts FGA FTA TS%
Wilt 62 48 100 63 32 .649
Kobe 06 42 81 46 20 .739
Gervin 78 33 63 49 20 .545
Klay 16 29 60 33 11 .793
Klay 18 27 52 29 2 .870
Ewing 88 26 41 24 6 .770
Floyd 91 22 40 25 7 .712
Dailey 86 21 38 19 18 .706
Kiki 88 20 36 14 15 .874
Durant 19 19 30 13 7 .933
who yr Min Pts FGA FTA TS%
S Jones 61 18 28 18 6 .678
Isaiah 13 16 26 13 2 .937
Monroe 80 15 25 12 5 .880
H James 97 10 24 10 3 1.060
Klay * 19 27 44 20 0 1.100
If not for an earlier 52 in 27 minutes, last night's game (*) would make the list.
April 15, 1997: After a 12 point 3rd quarter, the Hawks trail the Nets by 18. Enter Henry James; Atl wins by 9.
Above James, only Klay (60/29) and Wilt (100/48) had more than 2 pts/min.
Klay just misses the list further down, also. He had a 25/16 back in 2015.
That was Earl Monroe's next-to-last game -- a loss to the Celtics, for whom Pete Maravich scored >15 for the last time.
I do not know how to search for best TS% x points
Re: Trivia
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:22 pm
by Mike G
Last night, the Pelicans were without Anthony Davis; but they beat the Rockets in Houston, and Jrue Holiday had 6 blocked shots.
Guards (and G-F) with 6+ blocks in a game:
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G w 6 blk mo-yr tm opp
D Johnson 01-77 Sea Bos
M Jordan 12-86 Chi Sea
J Rose 02-96 Den Bos
D Christie 03-97 Tor Chi
K Gill 11-97 NJN Mia
V Carter 03-99 Tor Chi
D Christie 02-00 Tor Chi
D Green 03-18 SAS NOP
J Holiday 01-19 NOP Hou
Christie had 7 in the 2nd one.
DJ, Gill, and Holiday are listed as G, the others as G-F.
Jordan is the only other who was on the road.
Holiday had 300 blk in 635 career games, or .47 Blk/G -- now .48
Notice one each season from '96 thru 2000. Only 2 in the previous 20 years, and 18 years to the next one.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:59 am
by xkonk
Mike G wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:22 pm
Last night, the Pelicans were without Anthony Davis; but they beat the Rockets in Houston, and Jrue Holiday had 6 blocked shots.
Guards (and G-F) with 6+ blocks in a game:
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G w 6 blk mo-yr tm opp
D Johnson 01-77 Sea Bos
M Jordan 12-86 Chi Sea
J Rose 02-96 Den Bos
D Christie 03-97 Tor Chi
K Gill 11-97 NJN Mia
V Carter 03-99 Tor Chi
D Christie 02-00 Tor Chi
D Green 03-18 SAS NOP
J Holiday 01-19 NOP Hou
Christie had 7 in the 2nd one.
DJ, Gill, and Holiday are listed as G, the others as G-F.
Jordan is the only other who was on the road.
Holiday had 300 blk in 635 career games, or .47 Blk/G -- now .48
Notice one each season from '96 thru 2000. Only 2 in the previous 20 years, and 18 years to the next one.
The Poisson distribution is certainly too simple, but using that to calculate the chances that someone with .47 blocks per game would get 6 in a game is something like 9 x 10 ^ -6. Or, if you multiply it by his 635 games, there's a half a percent chance it would happen.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:40 pm
by Crow
5 of the 6 blocks were on Harden. But he got his 30 plus (37) points. Took 40 possessions to do it. No win this time.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:15 pm
by Mike G
... there's a half a percent chance it would happen.
So about one in 200 players would have such an anomaly, in a given stat, of players with around 10 seasons?
With some 10 stat categories, it could be one in 20-ish for
some statistic?
Anthony Davis has several games this year with 5 blocks, but none with more. He averages 2.6.
Blk-#
5 - 6
4 - 6
3 - 8
2 - 8
1 - 11
0 - 2
Re: Trivia
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:43 am
by xkonk
Mike G wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:15 pm
... there's a half a percent chance it would happen.
So about one in 200 players would have such an anomaly, in a given stat, of players with around 10 seasons?
With some 10 stat categories, it could be one in 20-ish for
some statistic?
Anthony Davis has several games this year with 5 blocks, but none with more. He averages 2.6.
Blk-#
5 - 6
4 - 6
3 - 8
2 - 8
1 - 11
0 - 2
Yeah, of players with ~635 games and some stat with an average of ~.5, you'd see 6 of that stat in some game in about 1 in 200.
With an average of 2.6 (and again ignoring that the Poisson is too simple), Davis has about a 3% chance of 6 blocks in any given game. He's probably overdue.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:55 pm
by Mike G
After his rookie season, AD has averaged 2.5 Blk/G
He's had 6 or more on 23 occasions; over 387 games, that's 6%
In those 23 games, he avg'd 38 min. Over the whole 6 years, 36 mpg.
Maybe these events are not randomly distributed?
Maybe Harden was just sluggish and half a step slow, the referee crew was unsympathetic, so Holiday pounced on that?
Re: Trivia
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:59 pm
by xkonk
I mean, I'm sure they're not random. Davis (or anyone) will get more blocks when they play against someone who tends to have their shot blocked, for example. But they could still be modeled with some 'random' distribution. I would guess blocks and other things are overdispersed, so you should use something more like a negative binomial instead of a Poisson. But you would need to know more than just the mean to use a fancier distribution.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:48 pm
by Mike G
This year, Lou Williams (LAC) ranks 8th in FT made, even though he hasn't started a game. With 281 thru 57 team games, he's on pace to get 407 for the season.
Most 1-season FT by a player coming off the bench:
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. non starter yr FT
Detlef Schrempf 1991 431
Ricky Pierce 1991 420
Lou Williams 2017 399
John Drew 1984 377
Kobe Bryant 1998 360
Lou has 5 of the top 25 such seasons, presumably 6 after this year.
In his 14th season, with his 6th team, he's started just 109 of 912 games.
Career FT off the bench:
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. non starter G FT
Lou Williams 803 2930
Ricky Pierce 698 2235
Detlef Schrempf 612 2173
Jamal Crawford 876 2147
Manu Ginobili 708 1893
Since 1984 at least, the only players with
more minutes off the bench are Jamal Crawford and Dell Curry; at #4 another 3-point guy, Jason Terry.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:50 am
by Mike G
Cavs rookie Collin Sexton is 2nd among rookies in minutes played, after only Luka Doncic (Dal).
He's played all 56 games and started 46.
He's 4th in rookie scoring (14.8), 6th in assists (2.8), 1st in FT% (>60 attempts, .856), 2nd in 3FG% (>50 attempts, .400).
Somehow he's hit just 41% inside the arc, doesn't get to the line much, and sports a .490 TS%
His Usg% is 2nd on the team at 25.3, and his ORtg/DRtg is 96/121 -- this is Yikes! territory.
That .79 ratio plus a Usage of 25%+ has been achieved before. The only player to do it for >1000 minutes in a season was rookie Emmanuel Mudiay, 3 years ago.
Right now, Sexton leads the NBA in
negative Win Shares and VORP, and both by a good margin. He's on a pace to total
-2.2 WS and -2.8 VORP.
Worst in the 3point era:
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- WS player yr WS/48
-2.1 Emmanuel Mudiay 2016 -.049
-1.6 Jim Jackson 1993 -.081
-1.6 Sharone Wright 1997 -.076
-1.5 Michael Beasley 2013 -.047
-1.5 Adam Morrison 2007 -.030
-1.5 Collin Sexton 2019 -.044
VORP Player yr BPM
-2.6 M Olowokandi 2000 -6.2
-2.1 John Amaechi 2001 -6.9
-2.1 Antonio Daniels 1998 -6.2
-2.1 Marcus Fizer 2001 -7.2
-2.0 Terry Davis 1993 -5.2
-2.0 Adam Morrison 2007 -5.5
-1.9 Allan Houston 1994 -6.8
-1.9 Norm Nixon 1989 -7.8
-1.9 Sharone Wright 1997 -9.5
-1.9 Collin Sexton 2019 -6.4
Most or all of these guys were with terrible teams and got big minutes. In Sexton's case, nobody else seems to play point guard for the Cavs, other than Delly now.
Both Kandi and Mudiay "records" are extreme outliers, and both are threatened.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:38 am
by Mike G
Update on Lou Williams: He scored 45 last night, including 15-15 FT.
Four players are known to have scored more off the bench. Nick Anderson had 50 in 1993, one of 3 games he didn't start.
Mike Dunleavy Sr hit 48 in 1980; Darius Miles got 47 in '05.
And Larry Bird had 47 in next-to-last game of the 1985 season. Boston was resting all starters, supposedly. But they went into overtime, losing to the
other best team in the East, the Bucks.
http://bkref.com/tiny/kILX1
Re: Trivia
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:25 am
by Mike G
A while back I was looking at 'best shooters', and I was struck by these two: John Paxson 1991, who started and played 24 mpg for the Bulls; and Donald Royal '93, who came off the bench for Orlando, 21 mpg. Both averaged about 9 points, with these shooting% --
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player FG% 3fg% 2fg% eFG% FT% TS%
Paxson'91 .548 .438 .571 .585 .829 .596
Royal '93 .496 .000 .500 .496 .815 .627
Note Paxson shoots better from everyplace. And TS%, which did not exist at the time, surely needed to.
Per 100 poss., Pax took 15 FGA and 1 FTA, while Royal got 12 and 12.
Thru 1993, just 30 players had ever hit .625 TS% with >700 points scored.
# - .625 TS%
8 times - Artis Gilmore
5 - Barkley
4 - Dantley, Donaldson
3 - Cedric Maxwell, Darryl Dawkins, Steve Johnson, Cartwright
2 - Wilt, Twardzik*, Kareem, Brad Davis, Magic, McHale, Buck Williams, Daugherty
1 - Ruland, Natt, Banks, Pinckney, Stockton, Dan Schayes, Mark West, Mullin,
Karl Malone, Terry Porter, Parish, Royal, Kenny Smith
http://bkref.com/tiny/yjwRR
* Dave Twardzik did it in the ABA and NBA, only player besides Wilt before 1979.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:54 am
by Mike G
After leading all players in playoff VORP for 8 straight years -- and 10 of the last 12 -- LeBron will miss this postseason.
Sometimes he's had more vorp than any
2 players for another team.
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year LBJ 2team
2007 2.4 3.0 - Duncan, Ginobili
2009 2.9 4.2 - Kobe, Gasol
2011 2.3 2.4 - Dirk, Terry
2012 3.2 3.1 - Durant, Harden
2013 2.9 2.8 - Kawhi, Green
2014 2.4 3.3 - Westbrook, Durant
2015 2.7 3.8 - Curry, Green
2016 3.1 3.3 - Green, Curry
2017 2.5 3.5 - Curry,Green
2018 3.7 3.6 - Green,Durant
Total playoff vorp since 2006:
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vorp 2006-18 WS
33.1 LeBron 51.0
9.8 Wade 18.4
9.7 Durant 21.2
8.8 Paul 14.7
8.1 Curry 13.8
8.1 Duncan 18.1
8.0 Westbrook 10.5
7.8 Dr Green 12.0
7.6 Kobe 14.8
7.6 Harden 12.7
Maybe we should say, the playoffs will miss LeBron.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:57 pm
by Crow
26 guys on 5 plus championship teams. 6 played this century. 12 were done playing before 1960.
On career BPM 5 of the top 10 for when it is calculated are active. Draymond Green is just outside and slipping. Harden, outside, might get in. Durant, further outside. Probably won't get in.
Only 9 guys with 10 plus 50 plus point games. Curry and / or Durant might get there.
By Game Score, 5 of the best 10 individual productions of last 35 years gave come in about last 3 years.
12 near certain or absolutely certain (by BRef) Hall of Famers are currently playing.
Re: Trivia
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:04 pm
by Crow
For players with 600 plus minutes this season, the clearcut lowest ts% belongs to Ntilikina, followed by Jonathan Simmons. Also very low : Knox, Stanley Johnson, Hollis-Jefferson, Hezonja, Rondo, Jamal Crawford, T Evans, Wiggins, Dunn...