Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 11:29 pm
This adjustment was fast enough to deserve acceptance, imo.
The detailed explanation was sufficient.
The detailed explanation was sufficient.
Analysis of basketball through objective evidence
http://apbr.org/metrics/
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DQin Hou+8 Ind+7 Bos+7 OKC+6 Phx+5 Mem+5
. NY-5 Orl-7 Cha-7 Det-8 Tor-9
medi Phl+10 Por+7 Min+5 Cle+5 Sac-5 Phx-6
EBET NYK+5 LAL+4 Chi-4 Uta-5
Crow Chi+6 Det+3 Atl-4 Mia-8
KPel GS+8 Sac+5 Tor+4 Mil+3 Was-6 Brk-8
DRKO Was+5 Uta+4 Cle+4 Mem-5 LAL-5
EExp Atl+5 OKC-5
Mgoo
dtka LAC+4
eWin Orl+6 Tor+4 Mia+4 Cle-4 Ind-4 Den-4 Bos-6
bpmW
WShr Brk+8 Mil-4 NO-4 SA-4 Phl-6
perW Dal+8 SA+7 Den+4 NO+2
. Cle-4 Hou-4 OKC-5 Min-5 Por-6 GS-6
Walr Cha+6 Uta+4 LAC-3 Dal-6
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. avg err avg err
7.17 Walr 7.93 WShr
7.34 eWin 8.25 KPel
7.59 perW 8.68 Crow
7.65 bpmW 9.05 EBET
7.67 Mgoo 9.42 medi
7.69 DRKO 10.19 25Py
7.73 EExp 10.25 DQin
7.81 dtka 11.12 2025Code: Select all
. avg err rmse avg err rmse
Walr 6.93 8.8 25pr 8.01 9.4
knar 7.03 8.7 perW 8.16 9.9
EExp 7.32 9.0 WShr 8.17 9.8
eWin 7.38 9.3 Crow 8.36 10.4
bpmW 7.65 9.4 KPel 8.55 10.3
DRKO 7.68 9.2 vegas 8.57 10.7
Mgoo 7.73 9.6 25re 8.72 10.5
avgA 7.74 9.5 medi 8.94 10.7
dtka 7.80 9.3 DQin 10.53 12.3
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knar 7.75 9.2 bpmW 8.67 10.2
Walr 7.85 9.5 25pr 8.78 10.3
DRKO 8.13 9.6 WShr 8.91 10.5
EExp 8.15 9.8 Crow 9.10 11.2
perW 8.36 10.0 medi 9.44 11.7
avgA 8.45 10.1 vegas 9.44 11.5
eWin 8.49 9.9 25re 9.67 11.4
dtka 8.64 10.2 KPel 9.72 11.5
Mgoo 8.65 10.2 DQin 11.23 13.1
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knar 6.92 8.8 WShr 7.83 9.8
DRKO 7.02 8.8 bpmW 7.87 9.6
Walr 7.13 8.9 Mgoo 7.88 9.7
EExp 7.43 9.1 Crow 8.00 10.5
avgA 7.64 9.4 25re 8.52 10.6
25pr 7.66 9.4 medi 8.66 10.7
perW 7.69 9.7 KPel 8.72 10.7
eWin 7.72 9.6 vegas 8.79 10.7
dtka 7.80 9.3 DQin 10.25 12.3
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over tm avgA b-r over tm avgA b-r
19.3 Uta 24.0 43.3 -19.9 OKC 62.7 42.8
18.0 Cha 30.2 48.2 -13.8 Dal 45.6 31.8
15.0 Was 20.5 35.5 -11.0 Min 46.7 35.7
11.9 Phl 37.2 49.1 -10.7 Atl 43.4 32.7
11.7 Mia 37.3 49.0 -9.8 Orl 48.9 39.1
9.1 Chi 35.4 44.5 -9.5 Ind 39.3 29.8
8.4 Por 36.1 44.5 -6.6 Den 50.6 44.0
8.3 Brk 25.7 34.0 -5.8 Mem 42.8 37.0
5.6 SAS 42.5 48.1 -5.6 LAC 49.3 43.7
2.8 Bos 43.1 45.9 -5.3 Hou 49.7 44.4
1.6 Mil 41.2 42.8 -4.6 Cle 53.0 48.4
1.2 NOP 32.8 34.0 -4.2 GSW 48.3 44.1
0.8 NYK 48.3 49.1 -3.7 LAL 44.0 40.3
0.7 Det 42.8 43.5 -1.5 Tor 36.8 35.3
. -1.4 Sac 38.2 36.8
. -1.3 Phx 33.9 32.6
over avg 35.5 43.7 under avg 45.8 38.7
Yes, it's always this way, and I think b-r.com projections have gotten more consistent in the last couple years.
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e = .25-- e = 2 e = 2.8 e = 10 e = 60++
5.38 knar 8.69 Walr 9.78 DRKO 13.6 EExp 17.0 dtka
5.40 avgA 8.79 knar 9.84 EExp 14.0 dtka 17.1 EExp
5.74 Walr 8.84 DRKO 9.84 knar 14.1 eWin 17.2 eWin
6.23 EExp 8.91 EExp 9.88 Walr 14.2 knar 17.9 Mgoo
6.27 Crow 9.23 dtka 10.14 dtka 14.6 Mgoo 18.3 knar
6.34 DRKO 9.29 avgA 10.31 avgA 14.6 DRKO 18.4 avgA
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Walr 7.30 9.0 bpmW 7.83 9.6
DRKO 7.34 9.1 eWin 7.88 9.9
25pr 7.43 9.1 dtka 7.92 9.4
EExp 7.56 9.3 25re 8.27 10.3
avgA 7.73 9.6 perW 8.29 10.1
knar 7.74 9.2 medi 8.35 10.5
WShr 7.74 9.7 KPel 8.48 10.4
Crow 7.78 10.5 vegas 8.63 10.7
Mgoo 7.82 9.9 DQin 9.90 12.1
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Walr 6.87 8.39 .20 eWin 7.51 9.18 .11
DRKO 6.89 8.29 .21 bpmW 7.57 8.95 .16
25pr 7.05 8.62 .18 dtka 7.66 8.85 .16
EExp 7.14 8.59 .19 perW 7.71 9.39 .10
knar 7.23 8.51 .14 25re 7.90 9.70 .14
avgA 7.44 8.86 .00 vegas 8.21 9.89 .20
Mgoo 7.46 9.10 .15 medi 8.26 9.89 .22
Crow 7.47 9.73 .17 KPel 8.28 9.75 .17
WShr 7.50 9.16 .13 DQin 9.75 11.49 .08
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DRKO 6.99 8.4 .20 WShr 7.83 9.4 .11
Walr 7.17 8.7 .18 dtka 7.90 9.1 .14
25pr 7.28 9.0 .14 Crow 7.94 9.7 .17
knar 7.29 8.5 .15 perW 7.99 9.4 .11
EExp 7.37 8.7 .18 25re 8.11 10.1 .11
Mgoo 7.62 9.1 .16 vegas 8.43 9.9 .20
eWin 7.63 9.2 .12 KPel 8.44 9.8 .16
avgA 7.72 9.0 .16 medi 8.69 10.1 .19
bpmW 7.72 9.0 .16 DQin 9.93 11.7 .07
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DRKO 6.25 7.9 .27 perW 7.10 8.8 .18
knar 6.47 7.8 .23 dtka 7.16 8.5 .21
Walr 6.56 8.1 .25 WShr 7.24 8.6 .20
EExp 6.77 8.1 .25 Crow 7.26 9.2 .24
avgA 6.84 8.3 .25 vegas 7.60 9.2 .29
bpmW 6.84 8.2 .26 25re 7.69 9.4 .17
25pr 6.86 8.4 .22 KPel 7.77 9.1 .25
Mgoo 6.88 8.4 .25 medi 8.16 9.4 .28
eWin 6.92 8.5 .20 DQin 9.36 10.9 .14
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DRKO 6.22 7.7 .31 dtka 6.86 8.1 .27
EExp 6.42 7.7 .33 perW 7.12 8.6 .21
Walr 6.47 7.7 .31 WShr 7.16 8.4 .24
knar 6.58 7.7 .26 Crow 7.22 8.7 .31
eWin 6.64 8.3 .24 25re 7.23 9.1 .23
bpmW 6.69 7.9 .31 vegas 7.36 8.6 .37
Mgoo 6.71 8.1 .30 KPel 7.50 8.7 .30
25pr 6.75 8.2 .26 medi 7.99 9.0 .34
avgA 6.76 7.9 .30 DQin 9.35 10.7 .17
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EExp 6.12 7.6 .33 25pr 6.82 8.2 .26
Walr 6.30 7.7 .32 perW 7.08 8.5 .23
DRKO 6.35 7.8 .30 vegas 7.08 8.6 .38
Mgoo 6.48 8.0 .31 WShr 7.19 8.4 .25
bpmW 6.58 7.8 .33 Crow 7.22 8.7 .31
eWin 6.58 8.2 .26 25re 7.22 9.1 .23
knar 6.61 7.7 .26 KPel 7.40 8.6 .33
avgA 6.63 7.8 .31 medi 7.81 9.0 .35
dtka 6.68 8.0 .29 DQin 9.31 10.7 .17
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W Atl W Bos W Brk W Cha W Chi W Cle W Det W Ind
46 DQ 50 DQ 33 WS 36 Wa 50 b-r 58 md 47 b-r 47 DQ
46 dt 48 WS 31 kn 35 b-r 41 Cr 57 DO 46 Cr 46 KP
45 md 46 DO 28 bW 34 kn 38 WS 56 dt 46 md 43 WS
44 kn 46 Cr 28 DO 32 eW 38 KP 55 DQ 45 eW 41 Cr
44 KP 46 KP 27 pW 31 DO 36 kn 54 WS 44 DO 41 pW
44 pW 43 kn 27 eW 31 pW 36 md 53 Wa 44 WS 40 md
44 bW 43 b-r 26 DQ 31 bW 35 DQ 53 bW 43 bW 39 Wa
43 eW 42 dt 26 Wa 31 Cr 35 bW 52 Cr 43 Wa 36 bW
43 DO 42 bW 25 dt 30 dt 35 DO 51 kn 43 KP 36 DO
42 WS 42 md 25 b-r 29 KP 34 dt 50 KP 42 pW 36 dt
42 Wa 41 Wa 22 Cr 27 WS 34 pW 50 pW 41 kn 36 eW
40 b-r 39 pW 19 md 26 md 33 Wa 50 eW 41 dt 33 kn
39 Cr 37 eW 18 KP 23 DQ 32 eW 42 b-r 35 DQ 31 b-r
^ Atl ^ Bos ^ Brk ^ Cha ^ Chi ^ Cle ^ Det ^ Ind
W Mia W Mil W NYK W Orl W Phl W Tor W Was
49 b-r 45 KP 52 Wa 55 eW 47 md 45 b-r 26 b-r
41 eW 44 Cr 51 DO 52 Cr 46 b-r 41 eW 25 DO
41 WS 43 Wa 50 pW 51 kn 43 pW 41 KP 24 Wa
40 KP 42 eW 49 md 50 DO 38 KP 40 DO 23 dt
40 pW 42 dt 49 dt 50 md 38 eW 39 kn 23 kn
40 bW 42 DO 48 kn 50 KP 38 Cr 38 pW 22 eW
38 Wa 42 b-r 48 Cr 49 Wa 37 dt 38 bW 21 WS
38 kn 42 md 48 WS 48 pW 37 DO 38 Wa 21 pW
36 DQ 40 DQ 47 KP 48 bW 35 bW 37 dt 21 Cr
36 dt 39 kn 47 eW 46 dt 34 Wa 35 Cr 19 bW
34 DO 38 pW 47 bW 43 WS 34 kn 32 WS 18 md
33 md 38 bW 45 b-r 42 DQ 33 DQ 32 md 17 DQ
29 Cr 38 WS 43 DQ 39 b-r 32 WS 28 DQ 14 KP
^ Mia ^ Mil ^ NYK ^ Orl ^ Phl ^ Tor ^ Was
W Dal W Den W GSW W Hou W LAC W LAL W Mem W Min
54 pW 55 pW 56 KP 58 DQ 53 dt 49 b-r 48 DQ 52 md
51 eW 54 md 51 DQ 53 Cr 51 Cr 47 pW 47 WS 49 WS
50 DQ 52 KP 51 Cr 53 b-r 51 kn 47 dt 46 md 48 DQ
46 Cr 52 DO 50 md 52 DO 50 DQ 47 eW 45 KP 48 Cr
45 bW 52 DQ 50 dt 51 md 50 eW 46 bW 43 Wa 48 dt
44 DO 52 Cr 49 bW 50 kn 50 KP 46 KP 43 dt 47 bW
44 KP 51 bW 48 kn 50 bW 50 DO 44 WS 43 bW 47 kn
44 WS 50 WS 47 WS 50 Wa 49 pW 44 Wa 42 eW 46 eW
43 kn 50 Wa 47 Wa 49 dt 49 bW 43 md 41 pW 46 Wa
43 md 50 b-r 46 eW 47 WS 47 WS 42 Cr 41 kn 45 DO
42 dt 48 dt 45 b-r 47 KP 46 md 41 DQ 39 Cr 44 KP
39 Wa 47 eW 44 DO 46 eW 46 Wa 41 kn 38 DO 43 b-r
33 b-r 45 kn 42 pW 46 pW 38 b-r 39 DO 35 b-r 41 pW
^ Dal ^ Den ^ GSW ^ Hou ^ LAC ^ LAL ^ Mem ^ Min
W NOP W OKC W Phx W Por W Sac W SAS W Uta
36 kn 69 DQ 39 DQ 46 b-r 44 KP 50 pW 36 b-r
35 pW 67 Wa 37 WS 43 md 42 pW 47 b-r 28 Wa
34 Wa 65 bW 37 kn 39 DQ 40 eW 45 eW 28 DO
34 Cr 65 WS 36 b-r 38 WS 40 WS 45 DO 26 kn
33 bW 64 Cr 36 dt 38 bW 39 bW 43 kn 26 dt
33 DQ 64 md 35 KP 37 Wa 38 b-r 42 Cr 25 eW
33 dt 63 kn 35 bW 36 DO 38 kn 42 Wa 25 WS
33 KP 61 dt 33 eW 36 kn 37 dt 42 bW 24 bW
33 md 60 eW 33 DO 36 Cr 36 Cr 40 KP 24 md
32 eW 60 DO 32 pW 36 dt 36 Wa 40 DQ 23 pW
32 DO 59 KP 32 Cr 36 KP 35 DQ 40 dt 21 DQ
29 WS 58 pW 32 Wa 32 eW 35 DO 40 md 20 KP
26 b-r 53 b-r 27 md 30 pW 34 md 38 WS 19 Cr
^ NOP ^ OKC ^ Phx ^ Por ^ Sac ^ SAS ^ Uta
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DRKO 6.11 7.6 .36 dtka 6.72 8.0 .33
EExp 6.46 7.7 .36 25pr 6.86 8.2 .30
Walr 6.51 7.7 .36 vegas 6.91 8.4 .41
Mgoo 6.54 8.1 .33 WShr 7.03 8.3 .29
eWin 6.54 8.4 .26 Crow 7.15 8.8 .32
knar 6.55 7.7 .31 KPel 7.30 8.6 .35
avgA 6.56 7.9 .35 25re 7.31 9.0 .27
bpmW 6.58 7.7 .38 medi 7.85 8.9 .36
perW 6.62 8.6 .26 DQin 9.11 10.6 .20
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over tm avgA proj over tm avgA proj
15.2 Chi 35.4 50.6 -15.3 Dal 45.6 30.3
11.5 Uta 24.0 35.5 -14.0 LAC 49.3 35.3
11.0 Por 36.1 47.1 -12.0 Ind 39.3 27.3
10.4 Mia 37.3 47.7 -10.7 OKC 62.7 52.0
7.8 Tor 36.8 44.6 -10.4 Orl 48.9 38.5
6.9 Phl 37.2 44.1 -9.0 Mem 42.8 33.8
6.1 Det 42.8 48.9 -8.3 Cle 53.0 44.7
5.0 LAL 44.0 49.0 -6.6 Min 46.7 40.1
4.8 SAS 42.5 47.3 -6.1 NOP 32.8 26.7
4.6 Cha 30.2 34.8 -5.0 GSW 48.3 43.3
4.3 Hou 49.7 54.0 -3.4 Atl 43.4 40.0
4.0 Phx 33.9 37.9
2.3 Was 20.5 22.8
1.8 Sac 38.2 40.0
1.7 Bos 43.1 44.8
1.6 Den 50.6 52.2
0.7 Mil 41.2 41.9
0.5 NYK 48.3 48.8
0.2 Brk 25.7 25.9