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Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:45 pm
by Crow
5 of 6 youngest teams in west. But next 8 in east. 6 oldest split evenly by conference but next 4 in west. The rest near middle are evenly split. Big picture: west split towards extremes, east mostly in middle.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:42 am
by Mike G
In Regular seasons plus playoffs, Steph Curry's 4618 3-pointers leads #2 James Harden by more than 1000.
Is this the biggest lead, by ratio, of #1 / #2, in any stat total? Not even:

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stat   leader    most    2nd most    1/2 ratio
OReb   Moses     7939   5169   Parish     1.54
3FG    Curry     4618   3545   Harden     1.30
Ast   Stockton  17645  13634   Paul       1.29
TO     LeBron    6471   5237   Westbrook  1.24
Stl   Stockton   3603   2986  Kidd, Paul  1.21
2FG    Kareem   18192  15308   LeBron     1.19
Blk   Olajuwon   4302   3665   Kareem     1.17
Pts    LeBron   50086  44149   Kareem     1.13
TReb    Wilt    27837  25724   Russell    1.08
FT     Malone   11056  10434   LeBron     1.06
Fouls  Kareem    5454   5240   Malone     1.04
DReb   Duncan   13313  12966   Malone     1.03

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/
Totals are NBA + ABA
OReb, DReb, Stl and Blk since 1974; TO since 1978
Kyle Lowry is the most prolific active player in Fouls, ranking #58 alltime. Then Paul, Westbrook, LeBron at #77.

Another measure of single-stat dominance is '"how many players have even half as many?"

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stat    Leader   most   half as many  rank
Ast   Stockton  17645   9241   Harden   12
OReb   Moses     7939   4016   Grant    15
3FG    Curry     4618   2328  Crawford  15
TReb    Wilt    27837  13958   Buck     20
Blk   Olajuwon   4302   2163   Bol      23
2FG    Kareem   18192   9209   Greer    30
Stl   Stockton   3603   1812   Gus      32
TO     LeBron    6471   3265   'Dre     35
Pts    LeBron   50086  25128   Drexler  42
FT     Malone   11056   5528   Chet     42
FG     LeBron   18320   9180   Harden   45
DReb   Duncan   13313   6689   'Sheed   52
Fouls  Kareem    5454   2728   'Toine  220

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2025 5:02 am
by Crow
A season involves about 270,000 points.

A total matched by LeBron and 5 career clones.


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Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:20 am
by Mike G
What do these players have in common?

Spencer Dinwiddie
Jalen Wilson
Ives Missi
Mikal Bridges
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kelly Oubre
Toumani Camara
Keyonte George
Bub Carrington.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:23 pm
by Mike G
A nice ESPN article on statistical milestones that players might reach this year.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/460 ... kola-jokic

They don't specify Regular Season for these, so I'm adding the Playoff totals and re-ranking players.

"James ... can pass Abdul-Jabbar as the all-time leader in made field goals. James is 350 field goals away from Abdul-Jabbar's record (15,837)..."

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total   FG made    RegSea   POff
18,459   LeBron    15,488   2971
18,193   Kareem    15,837   2356
15,271   Malone    13,258   1743
14,380   Jordan    12,192   2188
14,106   Wilt      12,681   1425
"James can also pass Reggie Miller for sixth on the all-time 3-point field goal list ..."

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(1-4: Curry, Harden, Allen, Thompson)
rk  total  3FG made   RegSe  POff
5 - 3039   LeBron     2559   480
6 - 3026   Lillard    2804   222
7 - 2880   Miller     2560   320 
"Durant ...[is] 849 points away from passing Wilt Chamberlain for seventh on the NBA's all-time scoring list...
James Harden, ... is only 603 points away from passing Carmelo Anthony for 10th and 910 away from passing Shaquille O'Neal for ninth."

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(1-5: LeBron, Kareem, Malone, Kobe, Jordan)
rk   total   points    RegSea   POff
6 - 35,556   Durant    30,571   4985
7 - 35,223   Nowitzki  31,560   3663
8 - 35,026   Wilt      31,419   3607
9 - 34,606 * Erving    30,026   4580
10  33,846   Shaq      28,596   5250
11  31,793 * Moses     29,580   2213
12  31,668   Duncan    26,496   5172
13  31,582   Harden    27,687   3895
14  30,701   Olajuwon  26,946   3755
15  30,416 * Issel     27,482   2934
16  30,203   Carmelo   28,289   1914
* -- includes ABA
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... eer_c.html

"Jokic, ...the Nuggets' triple-double maestro is just 18 away from passing Oscar Robertson (181) for the second most in NBA history, behind Russell Westbrook (203)."

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tot   3-D      RegSe  POff 
215  Westbrook  203    12
189   Oscar     181     8
185   Jokic     164    21
168   Magic     138    30
150   LeBron    122    28
 

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:57 am
by Mike G
There have been 49 instances of a player getting at least 2 triple-doubles in a single postseason.
25 times when someone got 3 or more.

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year   3D   player          tm
1960    2   Tom Gola        Phl
1963    5  Oscar Robertson  Cin
.       2   Lenny Wilkens   StL
1967    7  Wilt Chamberlain Phl
1968    2   John Havlicek   Bos
1969    2   Havlicek        Bos
1970    2   Walt Frazier    NYK
1980    5   Magic Johnson   LAL
1982    6   Magic           LAL
.       2   Larry Bird      Bos
1983    2   Magic           LAL
1984    5   Magic           LAL
1985    2   Magic          LAL
.       2   Clyde Drexler   Por
1986    3   Bird            Bos
.       3   Magic           LAL
1987    3   Magic           LAL
1991    4   Magic           LAL
1993    2  Charles Barkley  Phx
1994    2  Mookie Blaylock  Atl
2000    2   Kevin Garnett   Min
2002    4   Jason Kidd      NJN
.       2   Baron Davis     Cha
2003    2   Tim Duncan      SAS
2006    2   LeBron James    Cle
2007    2   Kidd            NJN
2009    3   Rajon Rondo     Bos
2010    2   Rondo           Bos
.       2   LeBron          Cle
2012    4   Rondo           Bos
2013    3   LeBron          Mia
2014    3 Russell Westbrook OKC
2015    3   LeBron          Cle
.       3   Blake Griffin   LAC
2016    2   LeBron          Cle
2017    3   Westbrook       OKC
.       3   LeBron          Cle
2018    4   LeBron          Cle
2019    6   Draymond Green  GSW
.       4   Nikola Jokic    Den
.       2   Westbrook       OKC
2020    5   LeBron          LAL
.       2   Jimmy Butler    Mia
.       2   Luka Doncic     Dal
2021    2   Westbrook       Was
2023   10   Jokic           Den
2024    7   Doncic          Dal
.       2   Jokic           Den
2025    3   Jokic           Den
 
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... son_p.html
Jordan had 2 playoff triple-doubles.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:26 am
by Crow
So LeBron's last such multiple tripledouble in playoffs was 7 years ago.

Curry never multipe playoff tripledouble. Harden, Durant, Giannis,Tatum, SGA, Haliburton, Brunson, Edwards, Mitchell, Irving, Leonard, Sabonis, B Simmons, Paul never.

Payton Nash, Billups, Jordan, Billups, Ginobili, Cousy, Lever, G Hill, A Hardaway, Frazier, Jabbar, Baylor, Nowitzki, Webber, Russell, Pippen, Bryant never.

Do these guys have single cases? Yeah, some do. See list below. Jerry West, Stockton, Hakeem with one.

Not easy.

How many won the title that time vs. not? If I didn't miss up the count, 14 won, 35 did not. Less than 30% won. Helpful? Probably, most of time. Decisive? Not usually. Look & sound cool? Yeah. Enough to run many teams that way, despite the modest sounding return.


Highest and lowest average BPMs in those games or entire playoffs for this list?


Career playoff leaders
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... eer_p.html

75% of the top 20 on total playoff tripledoubles won a title at some point in career. A bit less for the regular season top 20.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:31 am
by Crow
Mike G wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:20 am What do these players have in common?

Spencer Dinwiddie
Jalen Wilson
Ives Missi
Mikal Bridges
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kelly Oubre
Toumani Camara
Keyonte George
Bub Carrington.

And the answer was ...?

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:32 pm
by Mike G
[Mediocre] players who led their teams in minutes last season.
A few of them also led (or 2nd) in min/G:

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tm     mpg 1    minT     minT 1     mpg
Brk   Schroeder  12      Wilson      8
Dal   Irving      5      Dinwiddie   8
NOP   Murphy      2      Missi       7
NYK   Hart        2      Bridges     2
Orl   Banchero    6      KCP         3
Phl   Maxey       2      Oubre       2
Por   Camara      1      
Uta   K George    1
Was   Coulibaly   3      Carrington  2
Bridges gets 23 mil for below-avg PER, WS/48, and BPM.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2025 1:04 am
by Mike G
Historic highs and lows in avg points per game in the NBA. Defined as plus or minus 3 ppg from previous high or low.

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year   Pts/G   eFG%
1947    67.8   .279
1951    84.1   .357
1954    79.5   .372
1962   118.8   .426
1965   110.6   .426
1967   117.4   .441
1969   112.3   .441
1970   116.7   .460
1975   102.6   .457
1985   110.8   .496
1999    91.6   .466
2000    97.5   .478
2004    93.4   .471
2010   100.4   .501
2012    96.3   .487
2023   114.7   .545
2025  (113.8)  .543
The longest uninterrupted trend is 14 years of declining offense, 1985 to 1999, with a loss of 19.2 ppg.
Before that, a 10-year climb (+8.2), and more recently an 11 year climb (+8.4) to a 60-year high in 2023.
In 8 seasons after the introduction of the shot clock (1955-62) scoring increased by nearly 50%.

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2026 2:07 pm
by Mike G
Last night, Kawhi Leonard missed 2 FT for the first time this season (7/9)
It was the 3rd time this year he hit less than 90% in a game (4/5 , 6/7)
He still leads the league at .958 FT%.

Dividing his 23 game season-to-date roughly into quarters:

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W-L  TS%    TRb%   Ast%   Stl%  Blk%  TO%   Usg%   ORt  DRt   BPM
3-3  .625    9.6   16.9   3.6   1.9   8.6   27.7   126  112   6.1
1-5  .632   10.3   14.8   2.7    .0   9.7   35.0   119  116   6.2
0-5  .540   11.1   21.2   2.3   1.0   6.4   27.9   113  119   2.9
6-0  .695   13.1   21.7   3.7   3.7   8.7   37.0   137  101  14.8
The first 6 are before his down-time, the rest are after.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... elog/2026/

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:25 am
by Mike G
Best Finals series since 1985, according to BPM & minutes.
bpmG = (BPM+5.25)*mpg/48
It's per game averages, so no difference if it went 4 games or 7. Top 100 are ranked.

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year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1985    9.7  Kareem Ab-Jabbar 6   LAL   7.9   35.5   73
1985    9.2   Magic Johnson   6   LAL   6.0   39.2   82
1985    8.6   Larry Bird      6   Bos   5.0   40.2   95
1985    6.9   Kevin McHale    6   Bos   3.0   40.0   
1985    6.5   James Worthy    6   LAL   2.7   39.0   

1986   13.7   Larry Bird      6   Bos   9.4   44.8   24
1986    7.9   Kevin McHale    6   Bos   4.2   40.2   
1986    7.7  Hakeem Olajuwon  6   Hou   4.0   40.2   
1986    6.6   Danny Ainge     6   Bos   3.7   35.5   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1987   15.3   Magic Johnson   6   LAL  13.4   39.3    8
1987    8.4   Dennis Johnson  6   Bos   4.7   40.7  100
1987    8.0   Larry Bird      6   Bos   3.8   42.3   
1987    6.6   Michael Cooper  6   LAL   5.4   29.8   
1987    6.1   James Worthy    6   LAL   2.1   39.7   

1988   15.0   Magic Johnson   7   LAL  12.1   41.4   10
1988    8.8   Isiah Thomas    7   Det   6.0   37.4   88
1988    7.2   James Worthy    7   LAL   3.9   38.0   
1988    6.9   Adrian Dantley  7   Det   3.9   36.4   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1989   10.0   Joe Dumars      4   Det   7.8   36.8   63
1989    7.3   Magic Johnson   3   LAL   8.8   25.0   
1989    7.0   Michael Cooper  4   LAL   3.0   40.8   
1989    6.9   James Worthy    4   LAL   2.5   42.5   
1989    6.2   Isiah Thomas    4   Det   3.2   35.3   

1990   12.2   Isiah Thomas    5   Det  10.0   38.4   34
1990   12.1   Clyde Drexler   5   Por   9.0   40.8   36
1990   10.1   Bill Laimbeer   5   Det   7.4   38.2   60
1990    8.5   Terry Porter    5   Por   4.7   41.2   96

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1991   19.5   Michael Jordan  5   Chi  16.0   44.0    1
1991   12.2   Magic Johnson   5   LAL   7.6   45.6   33
1991   10.2   Vlade Divac     5   LAL   6.5   41.6   58
1991    8.3   Scottie Pippen  5   Chi   3.9   43.6   
1991    7.1   Horace Grant    5   Chi   3.3   39.6   
1991    6.2   John Paxson     5   Chi   4.1   31.8   

1992   13.9   Michael Jordan  6   Chi  10.5   42.3   21
1992   10.4   Clyde Drexler   6   Por   7.3   39.7   56
1992    9.8   Scottie Pippen  6   Chi   6.3   40.7   69
1992    8.9   Horace Grant    6   Chi   6.1   37.8   85

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1993   15.5   Michael Jordan  6   Chi  11.0   45.7    7
1993   12.0   Dan Majerle     6   Phx   7.0   46.8   37
1993   11.8  Charles Barkley  6   Phx   7.0   46.2   40
1993    6.4   Richard Dumas   6   Phx   6.3   26.7   
1993    6.2   Scottie Pippen  6   Chi   1.5   44.3   

1994   12.7  Hakeem Olajuwon  7   Hou   8.9   43.1   29
1994   11.0   Derek Harper    7   NYK   8.6   38.0   51
1994    6.9   John Starks     7   NYK   2.7   41.9   
1994    6.4   Otis Thorpe     7   Hou   2.5   39.6   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1995   11.8   Robert Horry    4   Hou   6.9   46.8   39
1995   10.4 Anfernee Hardaway 4   Orl   6.4   43.0   55
1995   10.1  Shaquille O'Neal 4   Orl   5.5   45.0   59
1995    8.6  Hakeem Olajuwon  4   Hou   4.0   44.8   94
1995    8.3   Clyde Drexler   4   Hou   4.6   40.5   
1995    8.3   Mario Elie      4   Hou   4.6   40.3   
1995    6.2   Nick Anderson   4   Orl   2.1   40.3   

1996   11.2   Shawn Kemp      6   Sea   8.1   40.3   47
1996   11.0   Michael Jordan  6   Chi   7.3   42.0   50
1996   10.0   Scottie Pippen  6   Chi   6.4   41.3   61
1996    9.8   Gary Payton     6   Sea   5.0   45.7   70
1996    6.5   Toni Kukoč      6   Chi   5.4   29.5   
1996    6.1  Detlef Schrempf  6   Sea   2.1   39.7   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1997   14.9   Michael Jordan  6   Chi  11.5   42.8   12
1997   10.4   John Stockton   6   Uta   8.0   37.5   57
1997    9.6   Scottie Pippen  6   Chi   5.5   42.8   76
1997    9.4   Karl Malone     6   Uta   5.8   41.0   78

1998   13.0   Michael Jordan  6   Chi   9.7   41.7   27
1998   12.2   Karl Malone     6   Uta   9.2   40.5   35
1998    9.2   Scottie Pippen  6   Chi   5.9   39.7   81
1998    7.5   Toni Kukoč      6   Chi   4.5   37.0   
1998    7.4   John Stockton   6   Uta   5.7   32.3   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
1999   13.0   Tim Duncan      5   SAS   8.5   45.4   26
1999    9.9  Latrell Sprewell 5   NYK   5.5   44.2   65
1999    9.7   David Robinson  5   SAS   7.3   37.2   72
1999    7.1   Charlie Ward    5   NYK   6.5   29.2   
1999    6.9   Allan Houston   5   NYK   2.2   44.4   

2000   14.3  Shaquille O'Neal 6   LAL   9.8   45.5   18
2000    8.7   Reggie Miller   6   Ind   4.7   42.0   90
2000    6.6  Austin Croshere  6   Ind   7.8   24.2   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2001   12.3  Shaquille O'Neal 5   LAL   7.9   45.0   30
2001   10.7   Allen Iverson   5   Phl   5.5   47.8   53
2001    7.6  Dikembe Mutombo  5   Phl   3.5   41.6   
2001    6.7   Robert Horry    5   LAL   7.5   25.4   
2001    6.0   Kobe Bryant     5   LAL   0.9   46.8   

2002   13.4  Shaquille O'Neal 4   LAL  10.2   41.5   25
2002   11.4   Jason Kidd      4   NJN   7.9   41.8   44
2002    9.9   Robert Horry    4   LAL   6.7   39.8   66
2002    8.2   Kobe Bryant     4   LAL   3.7   43.8   
2002    6.4   Kerry Kittles   4   NJN   6.4   26.5   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2003   15.9   Tim Duncan      6   SAS  12.2   43.8    5
2003    9.1   Jason Kidd      6   NJN   4.6   44.2   83
2003    7.7   David Robinson  6   SAS   8.5   27.0   
2003    6.8   Kerry Kittles   6   NJN   5.1   31.3   

2004   12.3  Chauncey Billups 5   Det  10.0   38.8   31
2004   10.5  Shaquille O'Neal 5   LAL   6.6   42.6   54
2004    7.1  Tayshaun Prince  5   Det   3.3   39.6   
2004    7.0   Ben Wallace     5   Det   2.9   41.0   
2004    6.8  Rasheed Wallace  5   Det   5.5   30.2   
2004    6.6   Kobe Bryant     5   LAL   1.6   46.4   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2005   11.0  Chauncey Billups 7   Det   8.0   40.0   49
2005    9.7   Manu Ginóbili   7   SAS   7.7   35.9   75
2005    8.7   Robert Horry    7   SAS   9.1   29.0   92
2005    8.5   Ben Wallace     7   Det   4.9   40.1   98
2005    8.1   Tim Duncan      7   SAS   4.3   40.9   
2005    6.5  Rasheed Wallace  7   Det   4.3   32.4   

2006   15.1   Dwyane Wade     6   Mia  11.4   43.5    9
2006    9.4   Jason Terry     6   Dal   6.0   40.0   79
2006    9.1   Dirk Nowitzki   6   Dal   4.7   43.7   84

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2007    8.9   Tim Duncan      4   SAS   6.2   37.3   86
2007    8.7   Tony Parker     4   SAS   5.8   38.0   89
2007    7.3   Daniel Gibson   4   Cle   4.7   35.0   
2007    6.9   Manu Ginóbili   4   SAS   6.1   29.0   
2007    6.1   LeBron James    4   Cle   1.6   42.5   

2008   11.8   Ray Allen       6   Bos   8.6   40.8   41
2008    8.5   Kobe Bryant     6   LAL   4.3   42.8   97
2008    8.2   Paul Pierce     6   Bos   4.9   38.8   
2008    6.2   Pau Gasol       6   LAL   2.5   38.7   
2008    6.1   James Posey     6   Bos   6.4   25.2   
2008    6.1   Kevin Garnett   6   Bos   2.4   38.0   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2009   14.7   Kobe Bryant     5   LAL  10.9   43.8   14
2009   11.3   Pau Gasol       5   LAL   7.5   42.4   45
2009    8.5   Dwight Howard   5   Orl   4.3   42.6   99
2009    8.3   Rashard Lewis   5   Orl   4.1   42.6   
2009    6.8   Hedo Türkoğlu   5   Orl   2.7   41.0   

2010   11.5   Kobe Bryant     7   LAL   8.1   41.3   43
2010   11.2   Pau Gasol       7   LAL   7.6   41.9   48
2010    8.0   Kevin Garnett   7   Bos   6.8   31.9   
2010    6.5   Rajon Rondo     7   Bos   2.8   38.7   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2011   14.5   Dwyane Wade     6   Mia  12.7   38.8   16
2011    7.7   Jason Terry     6   Dal   6.1   32.5   
2011    6.6   Dirk Nowitzki   6   Dal   2.6   40.3   
2011    6.1   LeBron James    6   Mia   1.5   43.7   
2011    6.1   Mario Chalmers  6   Mia   4.9   28.8   
2011    6.0   Tyson Chandler  6   Dal   2.4   37.3   

2012   12.2   LeBron James    5   Mia   8.1   44.0   32
2012   11.8   Kevin Durant    5   OKC   8.0   42.6   42
2012    8.2 Russell Westbrook 5   OKC   4.1   42.2   
2012    7.7   Dwyane Wade     5   Mia   3.9   40.6   
2012    7.7   Shane Battier   5   Mia   4.6   37.6   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2013   13.7   LeBron James    7   Mia  10.0   43.1   23
2013    9.3   Kawhi Leonard   7   SAS   7.1   36.3   80
2013    8.4   Danny Green     7   SAS   6.2   35.3   
2013    7.4   Tim Duncan      7   SAS   4.6   36.3   
2013    7.4   Dwyane Wade     7   Mia   4.4   36.6   
2013    6.1   Chris Bosh      7   Mia   3.3   34.4   

2014   13.8   LeBron James    5   Mia  12.2   38.0   22
2014    9.7   Kawhi Leonard   5   SAS   8.6   33.6   74

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2015   14.9   LeBron James    6   Cle  10.4   45.8   13
2015    9.9   Stephen Curry   6   GSW   5.9   42.5   67
2015    8.9   Andre Iguodala  6   GSW   6.3   36.8   87
2015    7.8   Draymond Green  6   GSW   4.9   36.8   

2016   16.6   LeBron James    7   Cle  13.7   42.0    2
2016    9.8   Kyrie Irving    7   Cle   6.8   39.0   68
2016    6.2   Stephen Curry   7   GSW   3.2   35.1   
2016    6.1   Andre Iguodala  7   GSW   3.3   34.0   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2017   16.0   Kevin Durant    5   GSW  14.0   39.8    4
2017   15.0   LeBron James    5   Cle  11.7   42.4   11
2017   11.2   Stephen Curry   5   GSW   9.1   37.6   46
2017    6.1   Kevin Love      5   Cle   3.9   32.0   

2018   16.1   LeBron James    4   Cle  11.9   45.0    3
2018   14.1   Kevin Durant    4   GSW  11.2   41.3   20
2018    9.6   Draymond Green  4   GSW   5.9   41.3   77
2018    8.6   Stephen Curry   4   GSW   5.0   40.5   93
2018    6.7   Kevin Love      4   Cle   4.4   33.3   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2019   11.9   Kawhi Leonard   6   Tor   8.8   40.5   38
2019   10.0   Stephen Curry   6   GSW   6.3   41.7   62
2019    6.4   Pascal Siakam   6   Tor   2.4   40.2   
2019    6.2   Draymond Green  6   GSW   1.9   41.3   

2020   14.5   LeBron James    6   LAL  12.5   39.3   15
2020   14.3   Jimmy Butler    6   Mia  10.7   43.0   17
2020   10.8   Anthony Davis   6   LAL   8.3   38.3   52

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2021   15.6   Giannis A       6   Mil  13.6   39.8    6
2021    6.8   Jae Crowder     6   Phx   3.5   37.2   
2021    6.4   Jrue Holiday    6   Mil   2.1   41.7   
2021    6.1   Chris Paul      6   Phx   2.6   37.2   
2021    6.1   Deandre Ayton   6   Phx   2.5   37.5   

2022   12.8   Stephen Curry   6   GSW  11.1   37.5   28
2022    8.1   Al Horford      6   Bos   7.0   31.8   
2022    6.8  Robert Williams  6   Bos   7.2   26.3   
2022    6.1   Jayson Tatum    6   Bos   2.0   40.7   

year   bpmG    Player         G   tm    BPM   mpg    rk
2023   14.2   Nikola Jokić    5   Den  11.4   41.0   19
2023    8.4   Jimmy Butler    5   Mia   4.6   40.8   
2023    7.0   Jamal Murray    5   Den   2.7   42.4   
2023    6.3   Aaron Gordon    5   Den   3.2   35.8   

2024    9.9   Luka Dončić     5   Dal   7.0   38.8   64
2024    6.7   Jayson Tatum    5   Bos   2.8   40.2   
2024    6.5   Jrue Holiday    5   Bos   2.9   38.0   
2024    6.2   Derrick White   5   Bos   2.9   36.8   
2024    6.1   Al Horford      5   Bos   4.5   30.0   

2025    9.7   Shai G-A        7   OKC   7.0   38.1   71
2025    8.7   Pascal Siakam   7   Ind   7.2   33.4   91
I was gonna list the top 100, but some years there was not a player for both teams; so I went to 150, and there was still one instance without a team showing anyone (Curry); so it's 180+ over 41 years, avg 4-5 per year.

65 of the top 100 Finals performances since 1985 are held by these repeaters:

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#    NBA Finals      alltime rank           years
8   LeBron James   32,23,22,13,2,11,3,15   12-18, 20
6   Michael Jordan  1, 21, 7, 50, 12, 27  91-93,96-98
5  Shaquille O'Neal  59, 18, 50, 25, 54   95,00-02,04
5   Stephen Curry    67, 46, 93, 62, 28    15-19, 22
4   Magic Johnson      82, 8, 10, 33    * 85,87-88,91

4   Scottie Pippen    69, 61, 76, 81       92, 96-98
3   Kevin Durant       42, 4, 20           12, 17-18
3   Tim Duncan         26, 5, 86           99, 03, 07
3   Kobe Bryant        97, 14, 43           08-10
3   Robert Horry       39, 66, 92          95, 02, 05

#    NBA Finals      alltime rank           years
3   Kawhi Leonard     80, 74, 38           13-14, 19
2   Dwyane Wade         9, 16               06, 11
2   Larry Bird         95, 24            *  85-86
2   Hakeem Olajuwon    29, 94               94, 95
2   Chauncey Billups   31, 49               04-05

2   Karl Malone        78, 33               97-98
2   Isiah Thomas       88, 34               88, 90
2   Clyde Drexler      36, 56               90, 92
2   Jason Kidd         44, 83               02-03
2   Pau Gasol          45, 48               09-10
* may have had more (probably) but not to be had in the search.

Best of the one-hit wonders (so far) :

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rk     Finals      tm    year
6    Giannis A     Mil   2021
17   Jimmy Butler  Mia   2020
19   Nikola Jokić  Den   2023
37   Dan Majerle   Phx   1993
41   Ray Allen     Bos   2008
47   Shawn Kemp    Sea   1996

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 12:39 pm
by Mike G
Thunders beat the Jazz in overtime last night while hitting just .184 from the arc. Not one player hit the league average.

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Thunder  3fg    2fg
Joe      1-3    0-0
Mitchell 2-7    3-8
Wiggins  1-4    2-5
Dort     1-4    1-1
JDub     1-5    5-10
Shai     1-8   13-18
Holmgren 0-3    8-12
Wallace  0-2    2-5
etc      0-2    2-4
total    7-38  37-63
They also hit .587 of 2FGA and 34/42 FT.
If all FT were on fouls unrelated to 3FGA, the combined TS% is .662
On .184 3fg, TS% = .276

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2026 5:43 pm
by Mike G
Lightest weight at various heights:

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ft in    lightest ?    wt   eq:6
5   6   Spud Webb      133   173
5  10   Chet Aubuchon  137   149
6   1  Nate Archibald  150   144
6   2   Mike Barrett   155   143
6   5   AJ Johnson     160   131
6   7  Michael Cooper  170   129
6   8   Louis Orr      175   128
6   9   Will Riley     180   126
7   0   John Butler    190   120
7   1   Chet Holmgren  208   126
7   3   Keith Closs    212   120
7   5   Chuck Nevitt   217   115
7   7   Manute Bol 2   225   111
7   7   Manute Bol 1   200    99
The last column is the player's weight scaled to a 6 ft. version of their proportions.
Manute is listed at 200 lb on b-r.com, which may have been an early estimate; at a gaming site I found him at 225, which is still exceptionally thin.
Unlisted heights: e.g rookie AJ Johnson (6-5) is lighter than anyone 6-4 or 6-3, so those lines are omitted.

In the WNBA, DeWanna Bonner is listed at 6-4 and 140 -- equivalent to 6-0 and 119.
Probably all height and weight are questionable here, so the calcs could be off by even more.
Wembanyama is now listed at 225. Did he gain 15 pounds since last year?

Re: Statistical Trivia

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 6:04 pm
by Mike G
Yesterday a Facebook post from Basketball-Reference.com noted that Joel Embiid has just passed their 15,000 career minutes threshold and now appears among their all-time leaders lists.
He is 2nd in career PER!

Of course being only 31 years old, his final career stats are likely to drop off, as in fact all of these older players did after that age.
On the left are career (to date) PER, and on the right are through age 31:

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PER    career  rk   at 31   PER
28.8 * Jokic    1   Jordan  29.6
28.0 * Embiid   2   Wilt    28.9
27.9   Jordan   3 * Jokic   28.8
26.8 * LeBron   4   Shaq    28.1
26.7 * Davis    5 * Embiid  28.0
26.4   Shaq     6  Robinson 27.8
26.2  Robinson  7 * LeBron  27.7
26.2   Wilt     8   Kareem  26.9
26.1 * Giannis  9 * Davis   26.8
25.7 * Luka    10 * Giannis 26.0
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... areer.html
* - Current players are thick in the top tier, and retired players (thru the top 30) were on avg 1.34 higher in PER at age 31.
Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, Shaq and others played well beyond their prime years. Curse of longevity.

At 5000+ minutes: Zion Williamson ranks 19th alltime (25.0) with exactly 7500 min.
Others rarely/briefly great: Robert Williams #56, Bill Walton #78, Daniel Gafford #80, Maurice Stokes #81 , all 5 to 10k min.

Embiid's last 2 seasons (total 40 games now) have PER around 22, so he is apt to drop behind Jordan any day now.