2013 stars and their historic similars

[Mike G]

Standardizing for team and opponent points and rebounds and other variables, we get per 36 minute rates that should be roughly equivalent on any team, in any era.
Steals, blocks, and turnovers are estimated for seasons earlier than 1974.
Ranked by the 'euclidean distance' for each category shown -- the sum of the square roots of the differences in each column.
Listing only the most similar season by each of the 10 least-different players.

First up, the king:

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   LeBron James    2013   29.8   8.6   8.0   1.4   1.6   2.8   .8

.22   Larry Bird      1987   28.4   8.9   6.6   2.4   1.7   3.1   .9
.38   Tracy Mcgrady   2007   27.5   6.0   7.7   2.0   1.3   3.1   .5
.50   Grant Hill      1999   24.6   8.0   6.8   2.3   1.6   3.7   .5
.53   Dwyane Wade     2006   29.5   6.0   6.9   2.7   1.8   3.4   .7
.56   Kobe Bryant     2003   28.9   6.7   5.5   2.5   2.0   3.3   .8

.58   Michael Jordan  1989   33.5   8.0   7.2   2.9   2.7   3.4   .8
.71   Magic Johnson   1990   24.8   6.9  10.8   2.1   1.7   3.7   .4
.71   Clyde Drexler   1992   25.8   6.7   6.4   3.1   1.9   3.2   .9
.72   Manu Ginobili   2007   26.0   6.3   6.0   2.7   1.9   2.7   .5
.73   Karl Malone     2001   27.5   9.7   4.9   2.8   1.2   3.1   .8

LeBron has an unconscionably low foul rate, along with everything else.
Ginobili, of all people, is the only one with a lower TO rate.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Kevin Durant    2013   30.2   7.8   4.9   1.7   1.4   3.3  1.2

.08   LeBron James    2008   30.5   7.9   5.8   2.0   1.6   3.0  1.0
.15   Dwyane Wade     2011   29.0   7.1   5.2   2.6   1.5   3.1  1.1
.22   Larry Bird      1988   30.7   9.7   5.4   2.0   1.6   2.7   .7
.25   Tracy Mcgrady   2006   26.3   6.9   5.1   1.8   1.2   2.5   .9
.28   Kobe Bryant     2003   28.9   6.7   5.5   2.5   2.0   3.3   .8

.34   Paul Pierce     2003   27.0   6.9   4.6   2.8   1.7   3.5   .8
.34   Karl Malone     2001   27.5   9.7   4.9   2.8   1.2   3.1   .8
.36   Grant Hill      2000   26.4   7.0   5.1   2.6   1.4   3.2   .6
.37   Michael Jordan  1992   31.8   6.5   5.7   2.4   2.2   2.4   .9
.40   Julius Erving   1980   28.0   7.3   4.4   2.7   2.2   3.7  1.8

I see some MVP seasons here.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF    Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Tim Duncan       2013   23.2   12.5   3.5   2.0    .9   2.6   3.1

.17   David Robinson   1993   23.1   11.7   3.4   2.8   1.5   2.8   3.1
.26 Kareem AbdulJabbar 1979   23.7   12.2   4.7   2.8    .9   3.4   3.8
.29   Jermaine O'Neal  2004   23.4   11.3   2.5   3.3    .8   2.4   2.6
.29   Shaquille O'Neal 2004   24.1   12.1   3.1   3.4    .5   2.9   2.5
.30   Bob Pettit       1961   21.7   13.5   3.0   2.7   1.3   3.2   2.1

.30   Wilt Chamberlain 1970   22.8   14.4   3.5   2.4   1.5   3.5   2.2
.30   Bob Lanier       1977   24.2   10.9   3.1   2.7   1.1   3.2   1.9
.33   Derrick Coleman  1994   20.4   11.1   3.4   2.8    .9   2.8   1.9
.34   Kevin Garnett    2007   21.3   12.7   2.9   2.3   1.1   2.5   1.6
.34   Pau Gasol        2007   21.1   10.7   2.5   2.4    .5   2.8   2.2

Duncan had a phenomenal block/foul ratio this year.
That's an anomalous year for Wilt, based on just 12 games.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00  Russell Westbrook 2013   25.9   5.7   9.1   2.4   1.8   3.5   .3

.16   Magic Johnson    1987   25.1   6.6  11.1   2.1   1.8   3.8   .5
.19   Tracy Mcgrady    2007   27.5   6.0   7.7   2.0   1.3   3.1   .5
.19   Oscar Robertson  1966   24.0   4.8   8.8   2.6   2.6   3.6   .6
.22   Gary Payton      2000   22.7   5.9   8.3   2.0   1.7   2.5   .2
.28  Anfernee Hardaway 1996   25.0   4.6   7.1   2.0   2.1   2.8   .5

.31   Tony Parker      2007   25.1   4.1   8.3   2.0   1.2   2.9   .1
.32   Kevin Johnson    1991   23.8   3.6   9.4   2.3   2.2   3.6   .1
.37   Jerry West       1971   23.7   3.6   8.1   2.4   2.5   3.4   .3
.37   Derrick Rose     2011   28.6   4.6   8.2   1.7   1.0   3.4   .6
.37   Terrell Brandon  1997   22.7   4.6   7.4   2.3   1.8   2.3   .4

Westy, too, would be an MVP candidate in many years, if there weren't a better player on his own team.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Carmelo Anthony  2013   30.6   7.2   2.7   3.0    .8   2.6   .6

.12   Dirk Nowitzki    2011   28.9   8.2   3.0   2.6    .6   2.1   .7
.18   Tom Chambers     1990   27.0   7.0   2.1   3.2   1.1   2.7   .6
.20  Dominique Wilkins 1988   29.1   6.5   2.7   2.1   1.3   2.8   .6
.22   Kevin Durant     2011   28.4   7.0   2.7   1.9   1.1   2.7   .9
.24   Bernard King     1984   31.2   6.0   2.2   3.8   1.0   2.7   .2

.24   Rick Barry       1967   27.6   6.0   2.8   3.1   1.3   3.0   .9
.26   George Gervin    1982   31.7   5.0   2.2   2.8   1.0   2.8   .6
.26   Adrian Dantley   1980   29.4   7.8   2.6   3.0   1.4   3.3   .2
.27   Mark Aguirre     1985   26.7   6.7   3.1   3.4    .8   3.4   .3
.33   Kiki Vandeweghe  1984   28.5   4.8   2.6   2.5    .7   2.1   .7

Melo resembles most of the great scoring SF in history. Statistically, that is.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Dwyane Wade      2013   24.8   5.8   6.2   2.1   1.9   2.9   .8

.09   Tracy Mcgrady    2005   26.4   6.2   5.8   2.0   1.6   2.4   .6
.10   Walt Frazier     1972   22.3   5.6   5.4   2.3   1.9   3.0   .8
.11   Michael Jordan   2002   24.1   6.4   5.8   2.1   1.5   2.8   .5
.11   Manu Ginobili    2007   26.0   6.3   6.0   2.7   1.9   2.7   .5
.14  Anfernee Hardaway 1996   25.0   4.6   7.1   2.0   2.1   2.8   .5

.15   Clyde Drexler    1992   25.8   6.7   6.4   3.1   1.9   3.2   .9
.15   Scottie Pippen   1997   22.6   6.6   5.8   2.6   1.9   2.6   .5
.16   Jerry West       1963   22.6   5.2   5.1   2.6   1.9   3.0   .7
.16   Kobe Bryant      2004   25.8   5.7   5.3   2.7   1.7   2.6   .4
.17   Lebron James     2007   27.3   7.0   5.8   2.0   1.4   2.9   .6

One could do better than the Washington Jordan; but that's prime Frazier, Drexler, etc.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Kobe Bryant      2013   26.6   5.3   5.6   2.1   1.3   3.5   .3

.14   Paul Pierce      2008   26.0   5.8   4.6   2.5   1.3   2.8   .4
.15   Tracy Mcgrady    2004   26.4   5.7   5.4   1.8   1.3   2.5   .6
.16   Ray Allen        2004   23.9   5.2   4.8   2.3   1.2   2.7   .2
.17   Jerry Stackhouse 2002   23.8   4.5   5.9   2.2   1.1   3.7   .5
.18   Jerry West       1964   26.0   4.4   5.3   2.6   1.9   3.2   .5

.18   Pete Maravich    1977   24.6   4.2   4.9   2.4   1.1   2.9   .3
.18   Allen Iverson    1999   26.7   4.8   4.9   1.9   2.1   3.2   .1
.18   Michael Jordan   2002   24.1   6.4   5.8   2.1   1.5   2.8   .5
.19   Gilbert Arenas   2005   25.6   4.5   4.8   2.9   1.6   2.8   .3
.21   Bernard King     1991   26.2   4.9   4.4   2.9    .9   4.0   .2

Some notorious gunners here.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Brook Lopez      2013   25.4    9.0   1.3   2.4   .5   2.1   2.7

.25   Kevin McHale     1990   25.0    9.1   2.1   3.3   .4   2.4   2.1
.30   Alonzo Mourning  1995   23.7   10.5   1.4   3.5   .6   3.1   2.9
.35   Elton Brand      2006   25.4   10.0   2.6   2.7  1.0   2.0   2.4
.37 Kareem AbdulJabbar 1983   25.7    8.5   2.5   3.1   .9   2.8   2.4
.40   Patrick Ewing    1992   25.3   11.5   1.9   3.3  1.1   2.5   2.9

.41   Artis Gilmore    1982   23.6   11.2   1.7   3.8   .6   3.0   2.9
.45   Yao Ming         2004   23.0   11.0   1.8   3.7   .3   2.7   2.1
.46   Jermaine O'Neal  2003   22.6   10.8   2.1   3.6   .9   2.3   2.3
.49   Spencer Haywood  1972   21.2    9.9   1.7   2.6   .9   2.6   1.5
.50   Tim Duncan       1999   24.8   11.3   2.6   2.8   .9   2.8   2.4

McHale holds 6 of the top 7 spots.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Blake Griffin    2013   22.3   10.1   4.4   3.2   1.3   2.6   .6

.11   Dan Issel        1978   21.5   10.0   3.6   3.6   1.3   3.3   .5
.11   Karl Malone      2002   23.1    9.8   4.4   2.8   1.9   3.3   .7
.12   Larry Bird       1980   20.9   10.8   4.2   3.5   1.8   3.3   .7
.15   Sidney Wicks     1975   20.7   10.0   3.4   3.4   1.3   2.9  1.0
.16   Tom Gugliotta    1998   20.4    8.7   4.0   2.4   1.5   2.6   .5

.17   Charles Barkley  1995   24.0   12.2   3.9   3.1   1.7   2.3   .7
.19   Detlef Schrempf  1992   19.9   10.7   3.9   4.0    .9   2.7   .5
.19   Juwan Howard     2003   20.2    8.6   3.6   3.2   1.0   2.6   .4
.20   Brad Daugherty   1993   23.2   10.6   4.2   2.4    .7   2.1   .8
.20   Antoine Walker   2001   21.0    8.7   5.3   2.8   1.6   3.4   .6

Most of these guys are not highlight dunkers; but we don't care how the scoring is done: points is points.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Chris Paul       2013   20.8   4.5  10.5   2.2   2.6   2.5   .1

.16   Gary Payton      1999   20.8   4.9   8.7   2.2   2.1   2.9   .2
.20   John Stockton    1997   19.5   3.3  11.1   2.5   2.1   3.2   .2
.20   Tim Hardaway     1998   20.8   4.0   9.0   2.5   1.7   2.8   .2
.20  Darrell Armstrong 1999   20.1   4.5   9.0   2.1   2.5   3.7   .1
.22   Terry Porter     1991   20.8   3.8   8.0   2.1   2.1   2.6   .2

.23   Rod Strickland   1995   20.1   5.3   9.0   1.9   2.0   3.4   .1
.28   Kevin Johnson    1996   21.1   4.3   9.2   2.7   1.5   3.1   .2
.28   Baron Davis      2005   20.2   4.1   8.7   2.9   1.9   3.0   .3
.30   Jerry West       1973   22.8   3.6   8.7   2.1   2.6   3.5   .3
.31   Terrell Brandon  2000   18.2   3.6   9.3   2.3   1.9   2.6   .4

Paul has the lowest TO rate in the bunch.

[Mike G]

Continuing, in no particular order. Actually, it's just summary productivity per minute leaders.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   James Harden     2013   25.6   4.8   5.7   2.2   1.7   3.6   .4

.06   Jerry West       1964   26.0   4.4   5.3   2.6   1.9   3.2   .5
.12   Dwyane Wade      2008   24.5   4.1   5.6   2.5   1.6   4.2   .7
.13   Jerry Stackhouse 2002   23.8   4.5   5.9   2.2   1.1   3.7   .5
.14   Latrell Sprewell 1997   22.6   4.5   5.7   1.8   1.5   3.7   .5
.14   Manu Ginobili    2011   23.7   4.9   6.4   2.5   1.9   2.7   .4

.14   Rick Barry       1975   26.2   4.8   5.6   2.7   2.7   3.3   .4
.14   Chris Mullin     1989   24.5   5.3   4.3   2.2   2.1   3.6   .5
.14   Kobe Bryant      2002   26.5   5.5   5.5   2.8   1.5   2.7   .4
.15  Anfernee Hardaway 1996   25.0   4.6   7.1   2.0   2.1   2.8   .5
.15   Gilbert Arenas   2005   25.6   4.5   4.8   2.9   1.6   2.8   .3

About as many F as G in this list. Resemblance to West means Harden's Stl, TO, and Blk are not far from historic norms, given his other rates. Well, his TO are pretty high.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Kevin Love      2013   19.2   15.5   2.3   2.0   .8   2.3   .5

.16   Kevin Willis    1992   17.2   15.2   2.0   2.8   .9   2.5   .7
.18   Zach Randolph   2011   22.1   14.0   2.3   2.4   .9   2.1   .3
.32   Carlos Boozer   2004   17.8   12.7   2.2   2.8  1.0   1.9   .8
.36   Charles Barkley 1998   17.6   13.8   3.5   3.0  1.1   2.4   .5
.43   Swen Nater      1981   17.2   14.1   2.4   3.8   .6   2.8   .6

.47   Cliff Robinson  1984   16.8   11.8   2.7   2.9   .8   2.8   .5
.47   Robert Parish   1989   20.2   13.6   2.1   2.7  1.0   2.6  1.5
.48   Troy Murphy     2009   16.1   13.0   2.1   3.4   .9   1.7   .5
.49   Blake Griffin   2011   22.3   13.0   3.5   3.0   .8   2.7   .5
.56   Brad Daugherty  1991   21.9   11.2   3.1   2.4   .9   2.7   .6

Not many guys have had such a high Reb rate, esp. with so few blocks.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Tony Parker     2013   24.7   3.4   8.9   1.5    .9   2.8   .1

.09   Mark Price      1993   23.1   3.2   8.7   1.6   1.3   3.0   .2
.12   Stephon Marbury 2001   24.4   3.2   7.9   2.2   1.2   2.9   .1
.16   Kevin Johnson   1997   22.7   3.8   9.0   2.0   1.4   3.1   .2
.17  Chauncey Billups 2006   23.4   3.4  10.5   2.0    .9   2.1   .1
.18   Steve Nash      2003   21.4   3.0   8.1   1.8   1.1   2.6   .1

.27   Tim Hardaway    1997   22.1   3.6   9.1   2.0   1.8   2.8   .1
.28   Dana Barros     1995   22.6   3.3   7.3   1.8   1.7   2.8   .0
.38   Nate Archibald  1975   25.2   2.5   6.6   2.2   1.4   3.1   .1
.39   Gary Payton     2002   22.0   4.8   8.8   2.1   1.5   2.4   .3
.47   Derrick Rose    2011   28.6   4.6   8.2   1.7   1.0   3.4   .6

Unusual combination of high assists and low steals, along with great scoring.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00  Demarcus Cousins  2013   19.5   12.3   3.0   4.2   1.7   3.5    .9

.07   Shawn Kemp       1998   20.1   11.0   2.9   4.1   1.4   3.6   1.2
.12   Jack Sikma       1983   18.5   11.9   3.1   3.8   1.2   2.7    .9
.15   Clark Kellogg    1983   18.2   11.2   2.6   3.9   1.9   2.9    .6
.16 Christian Laettner 1993   18.9   10.1   2.8   3.8   1.4   3.6   1.1
.16   Kenyon Martin    2004   20.2   10.9   2.9   3.8   1.5   2.7   1.3

.17   Maurice Lucas    1979   19.1   10.9   3.1   3.8   1.0   3.5   1.2
.18   Terry Cummings   1983   22.3   11.3   2.3   4.3   1.9   3.0    .9
.19   George McGinnis  1974   20.4   11.3   3.0   3.8   1.9   4.6    .5
.19   Antoine Walker   1998   19.5   10.5   3.3   3.0   1.7   3.4    .7
.20   Marvin Barnes    1975   18.6   12.9   2.9   4.1   1.2   3.8   1.7

All these guys may have played some C, but basically they're a bunch of Forwards.
I guess it's the low Blk/Reb ratio.

Barnes and McGinnis are ABA guys. ABA stats are downgraded based on average translations by players jumping leagues, year by year. By '74-75, the differences are minimal.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   John Wall        2013   22.0   4.5   7.8   2.6   1.4   3.5   .8

.19   Walt Frazier     1970   20.2   5.0   7.5   2.5   2.3   3.2   .6
.21  Anfernee Hardaway 1995   22.4   4.5   6.6   2.0   1.7   3.3   .3
.21   Oscar Robertson  1969   20.3   4.4   8.0   2.6   2.4   3.2   .5
.23   Baron Davis      2005   20.2   4.1   8.7   2.9   1.9   3.0   .3
.24   Dave Bing        1970   20.7   4.1   6.9   3.1   2.2   3.0   .4

.24   Gary Payton      2001   21.7   4.5   7.8   2.2   1.5   2.5   .3
.25   Jerry Stackhouse 2002   23.8   4.5   5.9   2.2   1.1   3.7   .5
.25   Kevin Johnson    1996   21.1   4.3   9.2   2.7   1.5   3.1   .2
.25   Terrell Brandon  1997   22.7   4.6   7.4   2.3   1.8   2.3   .4
.26   Scottie Pippen   1998   21.2   5.4   6.2   2.6   1.8   2.5  1.0

And this is Wall at less than full strength for part of the season.
Elite rebounding for a guard, but TO at the high end.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO    Blk
.00   Al Jefferson     2013   20.4   10.9   2.4   2.4   1.1   1.5   1.1

.09   Kevin Garnett    2010   19.5   10.0   2.6   3.0   1.2   1.8   1.1
.12   Rasheed Wallace  2002   20.7    9.1   2.0   2.7   1.3   1.7   1.3
.12   Shawn Marion     2001   19.3   11.4   2.2   2.7   1.7   1.7   1.4
.14   Donyell Marshall 2001   19.0    9.6   2.1   3.0   1.3   1.9   1.2
.15  Lamarcus Aldridge 2011   22.4    9.3   2.0   2.5   1.0   1.8   1.1

.16   Marques Johnson  1978   19.2   10.7   2.3   2.9   1.2   2.3   1.4
.18   Pau Gasol        2009   21.0    9.9   3.0   2.1    .6   1.9   1.0
.18   Chris Bosh       2009   22.6   10.4   2.0   2.4    .8   2.2   1.0
.19   Drew Gooden      2005   18.3   11.4   1.9   3.3   1.1   1.9   1.1
.20   Dirk Nowitzki    2004   22.1    8.7   2.6   2.8   1.2   1.7   1.3

32 player seasons more similar to AJ than his own closest. Assists up, blocks down.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Andray Blatche   2013   20.4   10.1   2.1   3.6   1.9   2.7   1.3

.11   Kenyon Martin    2004   20.2   10.9   2.9   3.8   1.5   2.7   1.3
.11   Terry Cummings   1987   21.2    9.4   2.8   3.9   1.7   2.3   1.1
.12   Nene Hilario     2011   19.9    9.9   2.7   3.9   1.4   2.2   1.1
.13   Larry Nance      1985   21.2    9.3   2.5   3.1   1.5   2.3   1.8
.13   Bailey Howell    1961   19.5    9.9   2.3   3.8   1.1   2.6   1.5

.14   Bob Pettit       1965   21.1   10.0   2.8   3.5   1.3   2.9   1.6
.15   Marques Johnson  1978   19.2   10.7   2.3   2.9   1.2   2.3   1.4
.16   Dolph Schayes    1956   20.4   10.8   2.8   3.7   1.3   2.9   1.7
.16   Bob Lanier       1980   20.2    9.2   2.8   3.4   1.3   2.8   1.5
.16   Walt Bellamy     1965   20.6   10.2   2.1   3.0   1.1   2.7   1.6

Scorer-rebounders. Forwards from all eras, but a couple of centers squeak in, with more blocks, fewer steals.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   David West       2013   21.4   8.6   3.6   2.2   1.1   2.3   .9

.08 Shareef AbdurRahim 2001   20.5   9.1   3.1   2.8   1.1   2.7   .9
.10   Marques Johnson  1980   23.6   7.7   3.5   2.4   1.4   2.5  1.0
.11   Tom Gugliotta    1998   20.4   8.7   4.0   2.4   1.5   2.6   .5
.13   Ed Macauley      1953   21.7   7.7   3.9   2.5   1.6   2.9  1.2
.13   Glenn Robinson   2001   22.6   7.2   3.4   2.5   1.1   2.9   .8

.16   Brad Daugherty   1989   21.1   9.7   3.6   2.3    .8   3.0   .5
.16   Pau Gasol        2009   21.0   9.9   3.0   2.1    .6   1.9  1.0
.16   Sidney Wicks     1974   18.7   8.4   4.0   2.8   1.2   2.7   .8
.16   Rudy Tomjanovich 1974   23.6   8.2   2.8   2.7   1.1   2.8   .8
.17  Dominique Wilkins 1991   24.3   8.9   3.0   1.9   1.5   2.5   .8

Passing forwards and one non-shotblocking center.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Paul Pierce      2013   22.1   7.3   4.7   2.9   1.2   3.0   .4

.05   Antoine Walker   2002   20.7   7.8   4.8   2.7   1.4   2.8   .4
.06   Sidney Moncrief  1984   21.9   6.7   4.2   2.5   1.3   2.7   .3
.08   Detlef Schrempf  1997   20.4   7.3   4.6   2.6   1.1   2.5   .3
.08   Marques Johnson  1981   22.7   7.5   4.5   2.8   1.6   2.7   .6
.09   Mark Aguirre     1983   23.0   6.6   3.9   3.3   1.1   3.4   .3

.10  Richard Jefferson 2005   22.8   7.4   4.1   3.1    .9   3.7   .5
.12   Campy Russell    1979   19.6   6.7   4.3   2.9   1.3   3.4   .3
.16   Juwan Howard     1996   20.3   8.2   4.1   3.1    .8   3.5   .5
.17   Vince Carter     2008   20.8   5.9   4.1   2.9   1.1   2.2   .4
.18   Jamal Mashburn   2003   21.7   6.3   5.7   2.3   1.0   2.6   .2

I don't recall thinking Pierce and Walker were the same player when they played together.
Everything but C and PG here.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Dwight Howard   2013   17.8   12.8   1.5   3.9   1.1   3.0   2.3

.09   Ray Felix       1954   18.8   13.0   1.3   3.5    .7   2.7   2.0
.10   Elvin Hayes     1979   19.2   11.1   1.6   3.7    .9   2.8   2.3
.12   Mel Daniels     1971   16.0   12.9   1.8   3.5    .9   2.5   2.0
.12   Robert Parish   1980   19.0   13.0   1.9   4.1   1.0   3.7   1.9
.13   Shawn Kemp      1992   19.2   13.4   1.6   5.0   1.4   3.0   2.4

.13   Dan Roundfield  1979   16.7   12.0   1.7   5.1   1.2   3.0   2.5
.13   Willis Reed     1967   18.0   11.5   1.4   3.9    .8   2.5   1.8
.13   Rony Seikaly    1990   16.5   11.6   1.1   3.9   1.2   3.5   1.9
.14   Harry Gallatin  1953   16.2   12.8   2.1   3.5   1.1   2.6   2.0
.15   Jerry Lucas     1965   17.6   13.3   2.1   2.9   1.0   2.7   2.0

Less like Russell and Wilt; more like the guys they used to push around.

[Mike G]

Sometimes a young player resembles other young players; or not.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Kyrie Irving     2013   24.0   4.1   5.4   2.6   1.6   3.4   .3

.06   Pete Maravich    1976   23.6   4.3   5.3   3.1   1.4   3.0   .4
.06   Dave Bing        1971   24.4   3.9   4.7   2.8   1.8   2.9   .4
.06   Jerry West       1967   23.3   4.1   5.3   2.3   1.9   2.9   .4
.07   Gilbert Arenas   2010   22.3   4.4   5.3   3.0   1.3   3.7   .3
.11   Walter Davis     1980   26.3   4.2   4.8   3.1   1.8   3.7   .3

.12   Jerry Stackhouse 2002   23.8   4.5   5.9   2.2   1.1   3.7   .5
.13   Dwyane Wade      2008   24.5   4.1   5.6   2.5   1.6   4.2   .7
.14   James Silas      1976   21.6   3.5   5.0   3.2   1.9   3.0   .3
.14  Anfernee Hardaway 1995   22.4   4.5   6.6   2.0   1.7   3.3   .3
.15   Allen Iverson    1998   22.0   3.7   6.3   2.4   2.1   2.9   .3

Do-everything guards, incl. high turnovers.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Carlos Boozer   2013   20.0   11.6   2.6   3.4    .9   2.5   .3

.08   Otis Thorpe     1991   18.9   10.1   2.3   3.4    .9   2.7   .2
.09   Jay Vincent     1985   19.0   10.3   2.2   3.2    .7   2.4   .3
.11   Kevin Willis    1994   20.7   12.5   2.0   3.2   1.0   2.4   .5
.11   Zach Randolph   2008   18.8   12.3   1.9   3.2   1.0   3.0   .3
.16   Truck Robinson  1977   18.2   10.7   1.9   3.4    .9   2.4   .5

.17   Maurice Lucas   1977   18.8   11.0   2.8   3.8   1.1   2.7   .7
.19   Kenny Carr      1984   18.6   10.0   2.0   4.0   1.0   2.9   .5
.20   Clark Kellogg   1985   19.0   10.2   3.2   3.6   1.3   3.4   .4
.20   Dan Issel       1976   21.2   10.3   2.4   3.4   1.3   2.6   .7
.21   Cliff Robinson  1984   16.8   11.8   2.7   2.9    .8   2.8   .5

Issel played some C, but otherwise classic PF profiles.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Josh Smith      2013   18.7   9.0   4.3   2.4   1.3   3.0   2.0

.09   Sidney Wicks    1972   17.9   9.4   3.8   2.2   1.6   2.7   1.5
.13   Kevin Garnett   1998   17.6   9.5   4.1   2.6   1.6   2.3   1.8
.13   Elgin Baylor    1964   20.0   8.8   4.2   2.8   1.7   2.9   1.4
.15   Chris Webber    1995   18.2   9.9   4.5   3.4   1.5   3.0   1.6
.20   Bob Kauffman    1971   18.4   9.2   4.5   3.5   1.7   2.9   1.4

.20   Tracy McGrady   2000   17.2   7.4   3.9   2.9   1.3   2.3   2.2
.20   Lamar Odom      2001   18.0   8.1   5.5   3.1   1.0   3.5   1.6
.21  Andrei Kirilenko 2004   18.9   9.8   3.5   2.2   1.9   2.8   2.8
.21   Dolph Schayes   1957   19.8  10.5   3.2   2.9   1.4   2.9   1.6
.22   Connie Hawkins  1970   19.8   8.3   4.0   3.3   1.6   2.8   1.3

Forwards of all types, including F-C and F-G.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Stephen Curry   2013   23.1   3.9   6.2   2.4   1.5   2.9   .1

.09  Chauncey Billups 2005   22.5   3.7   6.6   2.5   1.0   2.3   .1
.10   Allen Iverson   1998   22.0   3.7   6.3   2.4   2.1   2.9   .3
.10   Jerry West      1969   23.8   3.2   6.5   2.5   2.1   3.1   .2
.12 Anfernee Hardaway 1995   22.4   4.5   6.6   2.0   1.7   3.3   .3
.13   Walter Davis    1986   21.7   3.4   5.2   2.5   1.6   3.5   .0

.13   Dana Barros     1995   22.6   3.3   7.3   1.8   1.7   2.8   .0
.14   Sam Cassell     2003   21.8   4.7   6.2   2.9   1.2   2.4   .2
.14   Monta Ellis     2012   20.6   3.6   5.5   2.4   1.5   3.1   .3
.16   Pete Maravich   1976   23.6   4.3   5.3   3.1   1.4   3.0   .4
.16   Jason Terry     2001   20.3   3.3   5.2   2.5   1.3   2.9   .1

After Monta left, Steph became him?

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   David Lee       2013   19.0   11.2   3.5   3.1   .8   2.6   .2

.09   Carlos Boozer   2006   20.6   11.4   3.2   3.7  1.1   2.4   .3
.10   Anthony Mason   2001   18.0    9.8   3.3   2.7   .9   2.1   .3
.11   Detlef Schrempf 1991   18.3    9.4   3.7   3.6   .8   2.4   .3
.12   Otis Thorpe     1992   19.2   10.7   3.0   3.8   .6   2.9   .5
.13   Charles Barkley 2000   16.4   12.3   3.6   2.8   .8   2.5   .2

.17   Brad Daugherty  1994   18.5   10.9   3.0   2.9   .8   2.2   .7
.17   Clark Kellogg   1985   19.0   10.2   3.2   3.6  1.3   3.4   .4
.17  Dave DeBusschere 1974   16.7   10.1   3.6   3.1   .9   2.5   .5
.17   Larry Johnson   1993   20.2    9.7   3.7   2.1   .6   2.6   .3
.18   Cliff Robinson  1984   16.8   11.8   2.7   2.9   .8   2.8   .5

Are there several players here who are generally thought to be not as good as their stats?
DeBush's last season was statistically his best.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Greg Monroe     2013   18.2   11.1   3.5   2.6   1.4   3.1   .6

.08   Antoine Walker  1998   19.5   10.5   3.3   3.0   1.7   3.4   .7
.13   Chris Webber    2006   17.8    9.8   3.1   2.8   1.3   2.3   .8
.14 Sharif AbdurRahim 2000   20.0   10.6   3.3   2.9   1.0   2.9  1.0
.15   Drew Gooden     2012   19.7    9.3   3.4   2.8   1.1   2.8   .8
.17  Dave DeBusschere 1974   16.7   10.1   3.6   3.1    .9   2.5   .5

.17   Larry Kenon     1978   19.3    9.5   3.1   2.7   1.5   3.6   .3
.17   Clark Kellogg   1985   19.0   10.2   3.2   3.6   1.3   3.4   .4
.18   David Lee       2011   16.6   10.1   3.1   3.0   1.1   2.4   .4
.18   Cliff Robinson  1986   19.1    9.5   2.5   3.1   1.4   2.9   .6
.18   Brad Daugherty  1990   17.2    9.7   3.2   2.8    .7   2.8   .6

Some of the same guys; PF mostly.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00  Anderson Varejao 2013   14.3   15.4   3.0   2.7   1.5   1.8   .4

.31   Charles Barkley 1998   17.6   13.8   3.5   3.0   1.1   2.4   .5
.32   Charles Oakley  1994   13.4   12.6   2.9   3.7   1.4   2.4   .2
.36   Troy Murphy     2009   16.1   13.0   2.1   3.4    .9   1.7   .5
.39   Kevin Willis    1992   17.2   15.2   2.0   2.8    .9   2.5   .7
.41   Drew Gooden     2007   15.2   13.1   1.6   3.5   1.2   1.9   .5

.44   Lamar Odom      2010   12.8   11.5   2.9   3.2   1.0   2.1   .8
.46   Happy Hairston  1974   15.4   12.1   2.7   3.7    .9   2.4   .2
.48   Carlos Boozer   2004   17.8   12.7   2.2   2.8   1.0   1.9   .8
.49   Swen Nater      1980   13.7   15.5   2.7   3.3    .6   3.3   .5
.51   Michael Cage    1988   13.3   12.7   1.5   2.7   1.3   2.2   .8

We have to wonder if Varejao could have kept up that rebounding over a whole season.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Kevin Garnett    2013   19.3   10.0   2.8   2.7   1.4   2.0   .9

.07   Chris Webber     2006   17.8    9.8   3.1   2.8   1.3   2.3   .8
.07   Donyell Marshall 2001   19.0    9.6   2.1   3.0   1.3   1.9  1.2
.08   Tom Gugliotta    1999   18.8    9.6   3.0   2.6   1.4   2.1   .5
.09   Shawn Marion     2002   19.3   10.0   2.1   2.6   1.8   1.7  1.0
.10   Marques Johnson  1978   19.2   10.7   2.3   2.9   1.2   2.3  1.4

.13   Nene Hilario     2011   19.9    9.9   2.7   3.9   1.4   2.2  1.1
.13   Brad Daugherty   1994   18.5   10.9   3.0   2.9    .8   2.2   .7
.13 Christian Laettner 1997   20.8    9.4   2.9   3.3   1.2   2.6   .8
.13 Shareef AbdurRahim 2001   20.5    9.1   3.1   2.8   1.1   2.7   .9
.14   David West       2012   18.0    8.8   3.3   3.1   1.0   1.8   .9

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Zach Randolph   2013   18.5   13.0   1.6   2.5    .8   2.1   .4

.14   Carlos Boozer   2004   17.8   12.7   2.2   2.8   1.0   1.9   .8
.15   Tyrone Hill     1997   18.3   12.4   1.5   3.8    .9   2.1   .4
.15   Kevin Willis    1994   20.7   12.5   2.0   3.2   1.0   2.4   .5
.17   Ersan Ilyasova  2012   18.1   11.8   1.5   2.9    .9   1.7   .9
.19   Troy Murphy     2010   16.5   11.2   1.8   2.7   1.1   1.6   .5

.21   Buck Williams   1988   18.6   12.5   1.5   3.8   1.0   2.7   .6
.21   Truck Robinson  1977   18.2   10.7   1.9   3.4    .9   2.4   .5
.25   Loy Vaught      1996   16.0   10.8   1.4   3.0   1.1   2.0   .5
.25   Robert Parish   1990   20.0   11.9   1.4   2.8    .6   2.5  1.0
.25   Terry Cummings  1992   19.4   10.4   1.7   3.5   1.0   1.9   .6

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00  Lamarcus Aldridge 2013   20.7   9.3   2.5   2.4    .8   1.9   1.1

.05   Chris Bosh       2006   21.7   9.2   2.2   2.8    .7   2.1   1.0
.07   Pau Gasol        2009   21.0   9.9   3.0   2.1    .6   1.9   1.0
.07   Rasheed Wallace  2003   20.5   8.5   2.3   3.1   1.0   1.9   1.1
.09   Dirk Nowitzki    2004   22.1   8.7   2.6   2.8   1.2   1.7   1.3
.11   Kevin Garnett    2010   19.5  10.0   2.6   3.0   1.2   1.8   1.1

.11   Josh Howard      2007   21.4   8.2   2.4   2.7   1.2   1.9    .8
.12   David West       2011   22.6   9.1   2.5   3.1   1.0   2.2    .9
.13   Dan Issel        1984   21.0   8.2   2.3   3.0   1.0   2.0    .7
.13   Mike Gminski     1986   18.8   9.7   1.7   2.3    .8   2.0   1.0
.13   Donyell Marshall 2001   19.0   9.6   2.1   3.0   1.3   1.9   1.2

[AcrossTheCourt]

"Steals, blocks, and turnovers are estimated for seasons earlier than 1974."

Can you talk about that method?


It's cool to see a similarity method like this. The points per 36 minutes is lacking some information though: break it up by usage and efficiency. Carmelo and Durant can score the same amount but in entirely different situations. Likewise, it'd be nice to see the stats broken down by zone. Unfortunately, we only have three-point and foul shot information for most of the league's history. Might be interesting to see similarity rankings for guys based on midrange shots, in the paint shots, etc.

Which guy is the furthest away from anyone else (i.e. most unique guy)? Wade's combination of shotblocks/assists/scoring is impressive. Few players of his size pass like Diaw except for scorers like Webber. But I don't think Diaw rebounds enough to pull away from guys like Iguodala.

[Mike G]

Steals and blocks are very crudely estimated from these rates:
Stl = sqrt(Ast) - 0.4
Blk = sqrt(Reb) - 1.5
Yeah, that produces some negative block values, so I change them to .05 or something (per36).
I haven't worked on improving these guesses in at least 10 years.

Turnovers are estimated as:
TO = Sco*.08 + Reb*.07 + Ast*.16 + Stl*.05 + Blk*.10 - MPG*.005

... break it up by usage and efficiency. Carmelo and Durant can score the same amount but in entirely different situations...

Carmelo and Keith Bogans both took about 6 threes per 36 this year, and at about the same %. Does that make them similar?

Every time you add a variable -- some think Age is a critical one -- or divide one variable into several, you're diluting the importance of the rest of them. Most teams want Scoring, and it's not too critical how it comes.

Now, if you are looking for "similar scorers", then feel free to explore all the ways and means at your disposal. I have deliberately rolled up several variables into what I think of "scoring strength" -- the Sco column.

Basically, it's: Sco = Pts/36 * 100/OppPPG * TS%/.527
This is adjusted upward for starters, downward for subs; up or down depending on their unassisted% (in the modern age when these are known; otherwise just given a boost for mpg >32).
In a 100ppg environment (per team), an average scorer gets 15 pts/36.

The theory is that if Durant has to take more shots, his shooting% drops. He becomes more like Carmelo. Everyone is affected by their teammates, coaches, etc. If you're taking a lot of bad shots, you go to the bench. A team in dire need of points loves a 52% shooter; another team not so much.

Without Westbrook in the playoffs, Durant took more shots and made them not so well. He became more like Carmelo.
Carmelo could have taken fewer shots. Just giving up the bad shots, his team likely has to take even worse shots, and they do worse as a team.
These are simplified descriptions, but I assume they are generally true in history.

[Bobbofitos]

"Without Westbrook in the playoffs, Durant took more shots and made them not so well. He became more like Carmelo."

This isn't exactly fair. Now, I'm a fan of usage vs efficiency, but Durant had RWB vs a below-league average defense (Houston) and was all alone vs the 2nd best defense (Memphis)

About:

Steals and blocks are very crudely estimated from these rates:
Stl = sqrt(Ast) - 0.4
Blk = sqrt(Reb) - 1.5
Yeah, that produces some negative block values, so I change them to .05 or something (per36).
I haven't worked on improving these guesses in at least 10 years.

What about utilizing height? That's known and affects blocks greatly (and steals to a lower extent). Seems like it would refine your estimates a little bit more.

[Mike G]

Yes, height would probably be a better indicator than rebound rate. In fact, a tall guy who does not rebound well or score much, yet gets minutes, is likely a shot-blocker.

My original dataset was entered by hand, and I didn't bother with height -- or age.
With basketball-reference and all the search and sort features, it's easier to use that for most things.

Not sure why they gave up on player similarities. They insisted on only using players of the exact same age for comparison; I suggested they use 'age' as just another parameter.
'Height' was also one of their parameters. As such, statistically dissimilar players were said to be similar -- Bird and Gervin, for example -- when their 'game' and productions really weren't very similar.

[Mike G]

Amar'e had some extreme rates this year.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00  Amare Stoudemire 2013   23.6   7.9    .7   4.5   .5   2.5   1.3

.12   Eddy Curry      2005   23.5   6.6    .8   3.9   .4   3.1   1.1
.18   Bailey Howell   1967   21.6   7.1   1.3   4.2   .7   2.4   1.1
.23   Bill Cartwright 1981   22.2   8.1   1.3   3.3   .6   2.5   1.0
.23   Rik Smits       1999   21.3   8.0   1.5   4.3   .5   2.0   1.4
.24   Roy Hinson      1986   20.2   8.3   1.2   4.1   .8   2.4   1.5

.25   Mike Mitchell   1980   21.8   7.4   1.1   3.4   .9   2.2   1.0
.27   Kevin McHale    1984   22.4   8.7   1.3   3.4   .3   2.1   1.8
.29   George Yardley  1958   23.2   7.3   1.3   3.0   .8   2.5   1.1
.30   Bob McAdoo      1983   21.3   8.0   1.1   4.9  1.3   2.2   1.3
.32   Charles Smith   1990   22.6   7.3   1.5   4.0  1.2   2.2   1.6

Forwards and weak-rebounding centers.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Al Horford      2013   18.3   10.4   3.3   2.1   1.0   1.9   1.1

.10   Pau Gasol       2012   18.6   10.6   3.6   1.9    .6   2.2   1.3
.11   Kevin Garnett   2013   19.3   10.0   2.8   2.7   1.4   2.0    .9
.11   Chris Webber    2006   17.8    9.8   3.1   2.8   1.3   2.3    .8
.12   Larry Johnson   1992   17.4   10.7   3.2   2.8   1.0   2.0    .6
.12   Lamar Odom      2011   18.1   10.1   3.6   2.7    .6   1.9    .8

.13   Brad Daugherty  1994   18.5   10.9   3.0   2.9    .8   2.2    .7
.14   Derrick Coleman 1998   17.5   10.7   2.7   2.5    .8   2.7   1.2
.14   Horace Grant    1994   16.3   11.9   3.5   2.4   1.1   1.6   1.2
.15   Spencer Haywood 1974   19.3   11.2   2.9   2.5    .8   2.8   1.3
.17   Al Jefferson    2013   20.4   10.9   2.4   2.4   1.1   1.5   1.1

F, F-C, and C

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Deron Williams  2013   21.1   3.2   8.1   2.5   1.0   2.8   .4

.08   Stephon Marbury 2003   22.3   3.2   8.1   2.3   1.3   3.1   .2
.12  Chauncey Billups 2007   20.3   3.7   8.1   2.4   1.2   2.1   .2
.12   Kevin Johnson   1995   18.4   3.1   8.6   2.3   1.2   2.7   .5
.14   Tim Hardaway    1999   20.1   3.5   8.6   2.1   1.2   2.8   .1
.17   Jason Terry     2007   20.0   3.5   6.9   2.2   1.1   2.0   .2

.19   Reggie Theus    1987   18.7   3.4   8.0   2.7   1.0   3.7   .2
.19   Steve Nash      2001   19.6   3.5   7.9   2.4   1.1   3.1   .1
.19   Gary Payton     2001   21.7   4.5   7.8   2.2   1.5   2.5   .3
.20   Mark Price      1992   22.7   2.9   8.3   1.9   1.6   2.6   .2
.21   Sam Cassell     2001   19.7   4.1   8.0   2.9   1.2   3.0   .1

Modern PG's

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Manu Ginobili   2013   19.2   5.2   7.0   2.8   2.0   3.3   .3

.07   Jamaal Tinsley  2005   18.2   4.8   7.7   3.1   2.3   3.7   .3
.07   Kyle Lowry      2012   17.4   5.6   7.1   3.2   1.8   3.2   .3
.08   Baron Davis     2007   19.5   4.4   6.8   3.0   2.3   3.2   .5
.08   Stephen Curry   2012   20.4   4.7   6.2   3.2   2.0   3.3   .4
.08   Jeff Hornacek   1993   18.5   4.4   6.6   2.6   1.7   2.9   .3

.08   Bob Cousy       1954   18.6   4.7   7.3   2.7   2.3   3.0   .6
.09   Gilbert Arenas  2003   18.7   5.0   6.4   3.3   1.6   3.7   .2
.09   Walt Frazier    1974   18.7   5.9   6.5   2.4   1.9   2.9   .2
.09   Steve Francis   2000   18.7   5.6   6.8   3.1   1.6   4.1   .4
.10   Oscar Robertson 1971   18.4   4.7   7.4   2.4   2.3   3.0   .6

I did not notice Manu becoming a PG. Several of these are shoot-first types.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Paul George     2013   19.3   7.6   4.4   2.8   1.7   2.8   .5

.06   Clyde Drexler   1994   18.7   6.9   4.9   3.2   1.5   2.6   .5
.06   Antoine Walker  2002   20.7   7.8   4.8   2.7   1.4   2.8   .4
.07   Marques Johnson 1984   20.7   6.8   4.2   2.7   1.6   2.5   .6
.09   Grant Hill      1995   18.6   6.7   4.9   2.9   1.7   2.8   .9
.09   Tom Gugliotta   1998   20.4   8.7   4.0   2.4   1.5   2.6   .5

.10   Bonzi Wells     2001   19.1   6.9   3.8   3.5   1.6   2.9   .3
.12   Sidney Wicks    1974   18.7   8.4   4.0   2.8   1.2   2.7   .8
.12   Rick Barry      1973   20.1   7.4   4.7   3.0   1.8   2.   1.1
.12   Campy Russell   1979   19.6   6.7   4.3   2.9   1.3   3.4   .3
.12   Sidney Moncrief 1982   21.4   7.0   4.5   2.6   1.7   2.6   .3

Even without standout defensive numbers, good defenders are sometimes known by their stats. Or is it random?

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Anthony Davis   2013   17.8   11.2   1.1   3.1   1.5   1.7   1.9

.09   Robert Parish   1992   17.8   10.9   1.0   2.6   1.0   2.0   1.5
.09   David Robinson  2002   16.4   10.4   1.5   3.0   1.3   1.6   2.1
.09   Matt Geiger     1998   17.2   10.4   1.5   3.5   1.2   2.0   1.6
.15   Hakeem Olajuwon 2001   15.8   10.1   1.7   3.1   1.6   1.8   2.0
.15   Marcin Gortat   2012   18.8   12.1   1.1   2.5    .9   1.6   1.7

.15   Vlade Divac     1991   15.7   10.6   1.3   3.7   1.6   2.2   1.9
.16  Donyell Marshall 2004   17.3    9.9   1.7   3.1   1.2   1.5   1.5
.17   Joe Smith       1996   15.3    9.8   1.0   2.9   1.1   1.8   1.7
.18   Dino Radja      1996   18.4   10.0   1.5   3.0    .9   2.2   1.5
.20   Shawn Marion    2006   19.6   10.3   1.6   2.5   1.8   1.4   1.5

The rookie resembles some great centers near the ends of their careers.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Marc Gasol      2013   17.2   8.8   4.3   3.3   1.0   2.0   1.7

.13   Brad Miller     2005   17.8   9.4   3.8   3.2   1.2   1.5   1.2
.13   Kevin Garnett   1998   17.6   9.5   4.1   2.6   1.6   2.3   1.8
.14   Tracy McGrady   2000   17.2   7.4   3.9   2.9   1.3   2.3   2.2
.16   Bob Kauffman    1972   16.2   8.3   3.5   3.3   1.5   2.4   1.3
.17   Arvydas Sabonis 1999   17.8  10.5   3.3   3.8    .9   2.2   1.6

.18   Dolph Schayes   1961   17.5   8.4   3.3   3.7   1.4   2.5   1.3
.20   Chris Webber    1995   18.2   9.9   4.5   3.4   1.5   3.0   1.6
.20   Jack Sikma      1988   16.9   9.2   3.3   4.0   1.2   2.0   1.0
.22   Larry Nance     1990   17.9   9.2   2.8   3.3   1.0   1.9   2.1
.22   Alex English    1979   16.1   8.3   3.4   2.9    .9   2.6   1.1

The young English and McGrady were shotblockers and rebounders.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Chris Bosh      2013   20.3   8.2   2.1   2.5   1.0   1.9   1.4

.03   Rasheed Wallace 2000   19.6   7.9   2.0   2.8   1.1   2.0   1.4
.07 Lamarcus Aldridge 2013   20.7   9.3   2.5   2.4    .8   1.9   1.1
.08   Spencer Haywood 1975   20.7   8.7   2.0   2.6    .8   2.6   1.6
.10   Dirk Nowitzki   2004   22.1   8.7   2.6   2.8   1.2   1.7   1.3
.11   George Yardley  1957   20.1   8.4   2.2   3.2   1.1   2.6   1.3

.12   Josh Howard     2007   21.4   8.2   2.4   2.7   1.2   1.9    .8
.14  Donyell Marshall 2001   19.0   9.6   2.1   3.0   1.3   1.9   1.2
.15   Bob Boozer      1968   18.9   7.5   1.5   2.9    .8   2.2   1.1
.15   Elgin Baylor    1967   19.8   9.3   2.5   2.9   1.2   2.6   1.4
.15   Thurl Bailey    1988   20.4   6.8   1.9   2.4    .6   2.5   1.6

Bosh has close to historic average Stl and Blk, relative to his Ast and Reb. Thus the similarity to old-timers.

[Mike G]

Thus far, Anderson Varejao has the most unique statistical profile, with a difference of .31 from his nearest matches (late Barkley/Oakley). But that was for just 25 games.

Then we have Brook Lopez, with elite scoring and shotblocking, but pedestrian rebounding. Most-similar Kevin McHale has several seasons from .25 to .35 difference.

A difference of 1.00 seems to be just about one "position" difference -- at that much difference, a SF is largely compared to SG and PF. At a difference of 2.00, C and PG are in the mix.

Up to a .50 diff, players are more or less interchangeable. That's not the same as "indistinguishable"; it just means you might sub one out for the other in your lineup without noticing much.

It's been 20 years since anyone (Clifford Robinson, Por) went 2000 minutes and averaged >20 pts/36, >2 blk/36, and <9 Reb/36.
Lopez averaged 23, 8.2, and 2.5

[Mike G]

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Paul Millsap    2013   18.3   9.1   3.0   3.5   1.5   2.1   1.1

.04   Kenyon Martin   2005   17.5   8.6   2.7   3.6   1.6   2.4   1.2
.06   Jerome Kersey   1988   17.7   8.4   2.8   3.9   1.6   2.1    .8
.06   Dolph Schayes   1960   18.2   9.1   3.2   3.6   1.4   2.6   1.4
.07  Billy Cunningham 1969   18.7   9.4   3.0   3.8   1.3   2.6   1.5
.08   Willie Wise     1972   18.6   7.8   3.0   3.4   1.3   2.5   1.2

.08   Jack Sikma      1988   16.9   9.2   3.3   4.0   1.2   2.0   1.0
.08   Nene Hilario    2011   19.9   9.9   2.7   3.9   1.4   2.2   1.1
.09   Neil Johnston   1958   19.4   8.8   2.6   3.5   1.2   2.6   1.4
.10   George Yardley  1956   18.8   8.7   2.5   3.3   1.2   2.5   1.4
.10 Christi. Laettner 1995   18.1   9.1   3.1   4.0   1.3   3.0   1.1

Combo forwards

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   J.J. Hickson    2013   16.5   13.6   1.3   2.5   .7   2.2   .8

.14   Zach Randolph   2013   18.5   13.0   1.6   2.5   .8   2.1   .4
.14   Kevin Willis    1995   16.4   12.1   1.3   3.3   .9   2.5   .6
.14   Drew Gooden     2006   15.6   12.5   1.0   3.2   .9   1.8   .8
.16   Tyson Chandler  2008   15.8   13.4    .9   3.2   .6   1.8  1.1
.16   Kris Humphries  2012   15.1   12.5   1.6   3.0   .9   2.1  1.3

.17   Truck Robinson  1978   16.4   12.1   1.7   2.8   .8   3.2   .8
.18   Ersan Ilyasova  2012   18.1   11.8   1.5   2.9   .9   1.7   .9
.18   Nikola Vucevic  2013   14.4   13.4   1.7   3.1   .9   2.0  1.1
.18   Tyrone Hill     1995   16.8   13.2    .9   3.8   .8   2.3   .6
.19   Dwight Howard   2006   17.1   14.0   1.6   3.4   .8   2.6  1.4

Non-passing super-rebounders who also score.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Nikola Pekovic  2013   19.7   10.6   1.0   2.6   .8   1.9   .8

.11   Kevin Willis    1998   19.3   10.3   1.1   3.3   .8   2.4   .5
.14   Spencer Haywood 1976   17.9   10.6   1.2   3.3   .7   2.3  1.0
.14   Ersan Ilyasova  2012   18.1   11.8   1.5   2.9   .9   1.7   .9
.16   Mike Gminski    1986   18.8    9.7   1.7   2.3   .8   2.0  1.0
.16   Bison Dele      1998   19.2   10.4   1.4   3.5   .9   2.5   .8

.17   Robert Parish   1990   20.0   11.9   1.4   2.8   .6   2.5  1.0
.17   Mehmet Okur     2009   20.2    9.4   1.6   3.4   .8   2.0   .8
.17   Moses Malone    1992   17.5   10.9   1.2   1.9  1.0   2.1   .9
.18   David West      2006   19.6    8.6   1.4   3.1   .9   1.5   .9
.18   Robert Parish   1992   17.8   10.9   1.0   2.6  1.0   2.0  1.5

Assist-free C and PF

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Roy Hibbert      2013   16.5   10.7   2.0   4.4   .6   2.5   3.0

.11   Darryl Dawkins   1979   16.2   10.0   2.0   5.0   .5   3.3   2.4
.11   Caldwell Jones   1975   15.2   11.3   1.9   3.4   .8   2.4   3.1
.13 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 2004   18.5    9.6   1.6   3.9   .6   2.3   2.8
.16   Elden Campbell   2001   16.1    9.6   1.7   4.2   .9   2.2   2.1
.16   Benoit Benjamin  1990   15.0   10.7   2.4   3.4   .9   2.9   2.9

.16   Jermaine O'Neal  2009   16.5    8.6   1.9   3.9   .5   2.6   2.5
.16   Dikembe Mutombo  1992   15.1   11.9   2.1   3.8   .6   3.5   2.9
.18   Alton Lister     1986   14.6   10.9   1.7   5.4   .9   2.9   2.6
.19   Elmore Smith     1976   15.8   11.2   1.3   3.5  1.0   2.4   3.1
.19   Yao Ming         2003   18.3   10.8   2.2   3.4   .5   2.6   2.2

Elite shotblockers who also board and score. Fouls, too.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Dirk Nowitzki    2013   20.6   7.8   2.8   2.0   .8   1.5   .8

.14  Lamarcus Aldridge 2013   20.7   9.3   2.5   2.4   .8   1.9  1.1
.15   Josh Howard      2007   21.4   8.2   2.4   2.7  1.2   1.9   .8
.15   Chris Bosh       2011   21.4   9.4   2.2   2.3   .8   1.8   .6
.16   Antawn Jamison   2012   19.2   7.4   2.1   2.9   .9   1.6   .7
.17  Dominique Wilkins 1997   20.6   8.1   2.3   1.8   .7   2.5   .6

.18   Luol Deng        2011   18.9   6.2   2.9   1.9   .9   1.8   .5
.18   Dan Issel        1984   21.0   8.2   2.3   3.0  1.0   2.0   .7
.18   Pau Gasol        2009   21.0   9.9   3.0   2.1   .6   1.9  1.0
.20   Calvin Natt      1982   19.8   8.8   1.9   2.5   .9   2.0   .5
.20   David West       2013   21.4   8.6   3.6   2.2  1.1   2.3   .9

Two of Dirk's 10 most similar seasons are from this year.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb    Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Rajon Rondo     2013   14.4   5.8   10.6   2.4   1.8   3.8   .2

.08   Rod Strickland  1999   15.4   5.2   10.8   2.1   1.7   3.3   .1
.13   Mark Jackson    1992   13.7   4.6   10.1   2.2   1.6   3.0   .2
.14   Jason Kidd      2001   16.7   6.3   10.1   2.1   2.1   3.5   .3
.17   Terry Porter    1988   15.0   4.7    9.1   2.5   1.9   3.0   .2
.22   Andre Miller    2002   16.7   5.1   11.3   2.8   1.6   3.0   .4

.30   Sleepy Floyd    1989   14.9   3.9    8.6   2.6   1.6   3.3   .1
.31   Gary Grant      1990   12.3   4.9   10.1   2.9   2.6   5.0   .1
.34   Isiah Thomas    1991   16.8   3.7   10.0   2.6   1.7   4.1   .2
.34   Terrell Brandon 1999   14.3   4.2   10.1   2.5   1.9   2.2   .3
.34   Brevin Knight   1999   11.6   4.6   10.4   3.4   2.1   3.1   .2

Passing-stealing-turnover -prone PG with modest scoring.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Nene Hilario     2013   17.9   8.9   3.6   3.7   1.2   3.0   .8

.04   Antoine Walker   1999   17.7   8.8   3.3   3.4   1.5   2.9   .7
.04   Mickey Johnson   1978   17.8   9.4   3.4   4.1   1.2   3.5   .9
.06 Christian Laettner 1995   18.1   9.1   3.1   4.0   1.3   3.0  1.1
.07   Bob Lanier       1984   18.8   8.1   3.1   4.0   1.0   2.8   .9
.08   Alex English     1980   17.6   8.5   3.0   3.1   1.1   3.2   .9

.09   Billy Owens      1993   16.5   8.0   3.9   3.2   1.1   3.2   .8
.09   Sidney Wicks     1974   18.7   8.4   4.0   2.8   1.2   2.7   .8
.09   Jack Sikma       1986   17.2  10.6   3.8   3.9   1.2   2.8  1.0
.09   Chris Webber     2004   18.3   8.9   4.7   3.4   1.4   2.7   .9
.10   Maurice Lucas    1978   17.4  10.0   2.9   3.7   1.0   3.2   .9

Nene with career high Ast% and career low Blk%. Career high Usg% and low TS%/ORtg.

[Mike G]

Another rack of less than greats

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   J.R. Smith      2013   20.5   6.1   3.2   3.0   1.3   1.8   .4

.05   Grant Hill      2006   21.4   5.4   3.0   3.0   1.4   2.1   .4
.07   Jamaal Wilkes   1980   19.2   6.3   2.7   2.7   1.6   1.9   .3
.09   Willie Wise     1974   18.8   6.4   3.4   2.8   1.4   2.3   .5
.09   Vince Carter    2008   20.8   5.9   4.1   2.9   1.1   2.2   .4
.09   Bobby Jackson   2004   20.0   4.9   2.9   3.0   1.4   1.8   .2

.11  Jason Richardson 2006   22.6   5.6   2.9   2.6   1.2   2.1   .5
.11   Rashard Lewis   2009   20.4   6.1   2.6   2.5   1.0   2.0   .7
.11   James Worthy    1990   22.4   6.3   3.4   2.4   1.2   2.0   .6
.12   Steve Mix       1981   18.7   6.2   2.5   2.5   1.4   2.1   .4
.12   Stephen Jackson 2005   20.7   5.5   2.6   3.1   1.3   2.5   .3

Some great players past their prime.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb  Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Javale Mcgee    2013   17.7   9.4   .6   4.4   .7   2.1   3.0

.10   Roy Hinson      1985   16.8   9.0   .9   4.7   .8   2.6   2.6
.12   Elmore Smith    1978   16.3  10.5   .9   4.1   .8   2.4   3.0
.16   Theo Ratliff    2000   15.2   8.7   .8   3.7   .6   2.2   3.4
.18  Gheorghe Muresan 1997   16.8   9.4   .5   4.2   .8   2.1   1.8
.20   Kevin McHale    1982   16.8   8.4  1.3   4.0   .4   2.1   2.8

.20   Serge Ibaka     2013   16.9   9.4   .8   3.1   .4   1.8   3.4
.20   Tyrus Thomas    2011   16.3   9.4  1.0   4.2  1.1   2.4   2.2
.21   Artis Gilmore   1984   17.9  11.2  1.0   4.0   .6   2.6   2.3
.22   Stromile Swift  2004   16.1   7.9   .8   3.9  1.2   1.8   2.5
.23   Jamaal Magloire 2002   16.4  10.1   .7   4.1   .6   2.4   1.8

Non-passing shotblockers who score.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Rudy Gay        2013   20.0   6.8   2.8   2.5   1.5   2.7   .7

.06   Glenn Robinson  2002   22.1   6.6   2.7   2.7   1.5   2.7   .6
.07   James Worthy    1985   19.4   7.2   2.4   2.7   1.2   2.7   .9
.07   Ed Macauley     1952   20.9   6.8   3.4   2.5   1.4   2.7  1.0
.07  Jason Richardson 2004   19.4   6.9   3.1   2.3   1.1   2.5   .5
.07   Larry Hughes    2004   20.2   5.8   2.8   2.6   1.7   2.7   .5

.08   Nick Anderson   1993   18.9   6.2   3.2   2.6   1.6   2.1   .7
.09   Chet Walker     1970   20.1   6.8   2.4   2.7   1.1   2.4  1.0
.09   Xavier McDaniel 1988   20.5   7.2   3.2   3.1   1.3   3.0   .7
.10   John Brisker    1972   18.5   6.4   3.2   2.9   1.4   2.4   .9
.10   Lamond Murray   2002   18.6   6.3   2.5   2.3   1.1   2.2   .7

MaCauley would be a SF today, but he was nominally the Celtics' center before they got Russell.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Andre Drummond  2013   14.0   13.5    .8   4.0   1.6   1.6   2.3

.18   Marcus Camby    2001   15.7   13.6   1.0   3.5   1.1   1.1   2.3
.18   Kosta Koufos    2012   12.4   12.4    .7   4.3   1.1   1.4   1.7
.20   Dale Davis      1995   13.3   11.7    .9   3.4   1.1   1.9   1.8
.20   Emeka Okafor    2007   15.1   12.8   1.0   3.4    .9   1.8   2.7
.21   Tyson Chandler  2005   11.8   12.5   1.1   4.2   1.1   1.9   2.2

.29   Dan Gadzuric    2005   11.4   13.3    .6   4.1    .9   1.5   1.9
.30   Deandre Jordan  2013   14.4   11.6    .5   3.4    .9   1.8   1.7
.30   Dwight Howard   2005   14.3   11.4   1.0   3.1   1.0   2.2   1.8
.32   Nazr Mohammed   2005   13.2   11.0    .6   4.1   1.0   1.9   1.5
.33   Mel Daniels     1970   13.3   12.9   1.4   3.8    .8   2.2   2.0

That's Mel Daniels between his MVP years.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Kenneth Faried  2013   15.3   12.2   1.3   3.7   1.3   1.8   1.1

.07   Tyrone Hill     1994   15.9   12.4   1.1   4.5   1.2   1.8    .8
.09   Drew Gooden     2006   15.6   12.5   1.0   3.2    .9   1.8    .8
.09   Bill Laimbeer   1987   15.8   12.0   1.8   3.6    .9   1.5    .9
.10   Tyson Chandler  2012   14.7   11.8   1.2   3.4   1.0   1.8   1.6
.12   Michael Cage    1987   14.8   11.8   1.5   2.8   1.3   2.2    .9

.12   Kris Humphries  2012   15.1   12.5   1.6   3.0    .9   2.1   1.3
.13   Emeka Okafor    2012   14.1   11.3   1.0   3.5    .8   1.8   1.2
.14 Kermit Washington 1978   13.4   12.3   1.5   4.1   1.0   2.3   1.4
.15   Dennis Rodman   1988   15.5   11.6   1.6   4.4   1.2   2.5    .7
.15   Brian Grant     1998   15.4   11.0   1.7   3.4    .8   2.1    .8

Rodman before he was a specialist.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Nate Robinson   2013   20.4   3.3   5.8   3.5   1.4   2.4   .1

.02   John Starks     1993   20.5   3.0   5.9   3.4   1.3   2.5   .2
.06   Gail Goodrich   1975   20.3   2.7   5.7   3.0   1.4   2.6   .1
.07   Flynn Robinson  1970   21.0   2.9   5.4   3.4   1.9   2.7   .1
.09   Walter Davis    1984   20.8   3.0   5.5   2.9   1.5   3.0   .2
.10   Jameer Nelson   2006   20.9   4.1   6.3   3.5   1.4   3.0   .2

.10   Mike Newlin     1976   18.7   4.1   5.5   3.2   1.3   2.5   .1
.11   Dave Bing       1968   19.3   3.4   5.5   3.0   1.9   2.6   .2
.12   Rodney Stuckey  2011   18.7   4.1   5.6   3.0   1.3   2.6   .2
.12   Walt Hazzard    1968   20.0   3.5   6.2   3.4   2.1   2.8   .3
.12   World B Free    1982   20.6   3.3   5.0   2.9    .9   2.8   .1

Nate's a throwback.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Joakim Noah     2013   13.1   11.6   3.8   2.8   1.2   2.6   1.4

.08   Paul Silas      1973   13.7   11.8   3.3   2.7   1.4   2.5   1.8
.10   Jack Sikma      1980   14.6   11.4   3.4   3.0    .9   2.6   1.0
.12   Dave Cowens     1974   14.8   12.7   3.9   3.4   1.1   2.7   1.2
.12   Bill Bridges    1970   12.1   11.7   3.6   3.4   1.5   2.4   1.8
.12  Dave DeBusschere 1972   12.5    9.9   3.5   2.7   1.5   2.3   1.5

.13   Johnny Kerr     1964   13.0    9.9   3.4   2.4   1.4   2.3   1.5
.13  Donyell Marshall 2000   13.6   10.7   2.9   3.1   1.2   2.1   1.2
.13   Gus Johnson     1970   13.2   11.2   3.0   3.4   1.3   2.4   1.7
.14   Nate Thurmond   1973   13.5   12.7   3.0   2.7   1.3   2.5   2.0
.14   Vin Baker       1995   15.2   10.5   3.3   3.2   1.0   2.5   1.3

Noah does not seem to resemble previous editions of himself. His Ast, Stl, and Blk were up; Sco, Reb, and PF were down.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Larry Sanders   2013   13.0   12.2   1.5   4.3   1.0   1.6   3.5

.08   Tree Rollins    1980   12.9   12.2   1.2   5.2    .9   1.6   3.9
.15   Jermaine O'Neal 2001   14.3   11.2   1.4   3.8    .7   2.2   3.1
.15   Marcus Camby    2000   14.4   11.0   1.2   4.5   1.0   1.6   2.6
.15   Shawn Bradley   1999   11.6   10.6   1.1   4.1    .9   1.5   4.2
.16   Caldwell Jones  1974   11.2   10.9   1.6   4.1    .8   2.0   4.0

.19  Samuel Dalembert 2012   13.2   12.4    .8   4.1    .9   2.1   2.6
.21   Tyson Chandler  2005   11.8   12.5   1.1   4.2   1.1   1.9   2.2
.22   Benoit Benjamin 1986   12.8   10.0   1.2   4.7   1.1   2.4   3.4
.23   Andrew Bogut    2011   14.3   12.5   2.2   3.5    .8   2.0   2.6
.24   Erick Dampier   2008   12.4   12.4   1.2   4.8    .5   1.7   2.3

Elite shotblocker/rebounders who foul plenty.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb  Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Serge Ibaka     2013   16.9   9.4   .8   3.1   .4   1.8   3.4

.13   Theo Ratliff    2000   15.2   8.7   .8   3.7   .6   2.2   3.4
.18   Kevin McHale    1982   16.8   8.4  1.3   4.0   .4   2.1   2.8
.20   Javale Mcgee    2013   17.7   9.4   .6   4.4   .7   2.1   3.0
.22   Brendan Haywood 2008   16.1  10.6  1.1   3.6   .5   1.8   2.2
.23   James Donaldson 1982   14.1   9.2   .9   3.5   .5   2.2   2.6

.25   Elmore Smith    1978   16.3  10.5   .9   4.1   .8   2.4   3.0
.27   Shawn Bradley   1997   13.6   9.8   .9   3.7   .6   2.1   3.9
.28   Robin Lopez     2013   16.6   8.5  1.0   2.8   .5   1.8   1.9
.29   Dikembe Mutombo 1998   16.3  12.6  1.1   3.2   .4   2.1   3.5
.29   Mark West       1990   14.2  10.6   .6   4.1   .5   1.8   2.7

Elite shotblockers who score but do not pass.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Jrue Holiday    2013   18.0   4.2   6.5   2.1   1.5   3.6   .4

.09   Jeff Hornacek   1993   18.5   4.4   6.6   2.6   1.7   2.9   .3
.09   Ricky Davis     2003   18.7   5.0   5.5   2.2   1.5   3.4   .4
.10   Darren Collison 2011   16.8   3.7   6.5   1.8   1.4   3.1   .2
.12   Joe Johnson     2006   18.6   4.0   5.5   2.0   1.1   2.9   .3
.14   Monta Ellis     2013   18.7   3.7   5.5   1.9   2.0   3.0   .4

.14   Isiah Thomas    1992   18.0   3.3   7.3   2.5   1.5   3.2   .2
.14   Jason Terry     2003   17.8   3.5   7.7   2.1   1.5   3.0   .2
.14   Baron Davis     2003   18.0   4.1   6.8   2.9   1.8   2.8   .4
.15   Mike Bibby      2005   19.6   4.1   6.4   2.3   1.5   2.5   .4
.15   Terrell Brandon 1995   17.7   3.8   7.2   2.1   1.9   2.6   .3

Modern combo guards. That's Hornacek in Philly, after the Barkley trade to Phx.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Tiago Splitter   2013   16.5   9.6   2.4   2.8   1.1   1.8   1.1

.05   Sam Perkins      1992   16.4   9.2   2.2   3.1   1.0   1.3   1.0
.07   John Shumate     1977   15.2   9.5   2.2   2.8   1.3   2.2   1.2
.08   Rasheed Wallace  2005   16.3   9.3   2.1   3.2    .9   1.7   1.6
.09   Gerald Wallace   2011   16.3   8.8   2.3   2.5   1.4   2.1    .8
.10   Arvydas Sabonis  2001   16.6   9.1   2.4   3.5   1.0   2.1   1.6

.10   Lamar Odom       2008   15.1  10.3   3.0   2.8    .9   1.9    .9
.10   Horace Grant     1991   14.9   9.8   2.3   2.8   1.3   1.3   1.0
.10   Derrick Coleman  2002   17.2   9.8   1.9   2.8    .7   2.1    .9
.10 Clar. Weatherspoon 1996   15.3   9.8   1.9   2.6   1.4   2.2   1.3
.11   Glen Davis       2013   17.0   8.6   2.0   3.0   1.1   2.2    .7

[Mike G]

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Luis Scola      2013   17.1   9.2   2.7   4.2   1.1   2.1   .5

.04   Brad Miller     2002   17.1   9.9   2.5   3.8   1.2   1.8   .6
.05   Terry Cummings  1991   18.2   8.6   2.5   3.7   1.0   2.2   .5
.05   Troy Murphy     2008   16.8   9.3   2.4   3.8    .9   1.7   .6
.07   Terry Mills     1995   15.8   8.7   2.3   3.7   1.0   2.1   .5
.09   Mickey Johnson  1977   17.4  10.2   2.7   4.1   1.3   2.5   .8

.10   Jay Vincent     1983   17.8   7.8   2.5   3.9    .9   2.5   .6
.11   Keith VanHorn   2002   18.4   9.0   2.5   3.2    .9   2.1   .6
.11   Otis Thorpe     1996   17.2   9.8   2.2   3.9    .7   2.5   .5
.11   Gary Trent      1998   16.2   8.8   1.9   4.0    .9   2.3   .7
.12   Al Harrington   2004   17.7   8.1   2.2   3.7   1.2   2.4   .3

Several of these are known for lax defense, are they not?

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Kyle Lowry      2013   14.9   6.2   7.3   3.9   1.7   2.8   .5

.03   Paul Pressey    1988   14.4   5.6   7.2   3.4   1.6   2.9   .5
.13   Bob Sura        1997   12.9   5.6   6.9   3.3   1.4   2.8   .5
.13   Baron Davis     2001   14.2   5.0   7.8   3.2   2.0   2.7   .4
.18   Warren Jabali   1973   16.6   4.9   6.8   3.7   2.2   2.8   .6
.20   Andre Miller    2000   14.3   4.6   7.8   3.2   1.4   2.7   .3

.20   Grant Hill      2001   14.5   6.8   7.1   2.5   1.4   3.0   .5
.21   Richie Guerin   1961   15.7   5.3   5.6   3.9   2.0   2.5   .7
.21   Norm VanLier    1973   12.9   5.1   7.3   3.5   2.3   2.6   .7
.22   Bob Cousy       1956   15.0   5.3   7.8   2.8   2.4   2.8   .7
.22   Brian Shaw      1991   13.3   4.9   7.4   2.7   1.4   3.0   .5

Rebounding PG's and point forwards. Jabali may have still been known as Warren Armstrong in '73.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Mike Conley     2013   18.1   3.2   6.6   2.2   2.3   2.5   .3

.05   Dave Bing       1973   18.2   3.0   6.8   2.6   2.2   2.7   .1
.06   Terrell Brandon 1995   17.7   3.8   7.2   2.1   1.9   2.6   .3
.06   John Lucas      1987   18.8   3.4   7.1   2.2   1.9   2.4   .2
.06   Derek Harper    1990   18.9   3.1   7.4   2.8   2.3   2.6   .3
.08   Bob Cousy       1957   17.5   3.6   7.8   2.1   2.4   2.9   .3

.09   Gary Payton     1994   17.6   3.7   6.2   2.9   2.4   2.2   .2
.10   Michael Adams   1989   17.2   3.5   5.6   2.0   2.2   2.4   .1
.10   Jason Terry     2002   19.6   3.5   6.2   2.0   1.8   2.3   .2
.10   Gus Williams    1985   17.1   2.5   7.3   2.0   2.3   2.7   .4
.11   Lucius Allen    1973   16.1   3.3   5.7   2.5   2.0   2.4   .2

Stealer-passer-scorers.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Ersan Ilyasova   2013   17.6   9.1   2.0   3.3   1.2   1.3   .6

.07  Lamarcus Aldridge 2010   18.3   9.0   1.6   2.9    .8   1.3   .6
.08   Antawn Jamison   2007   17.7   8.2   1.6   2.7   1.1   1.4   .5
.08   Mehmet Okur      2008   17.2   9.9   1.9   3.6    .8   1.6   .5
.09   Sam Perkins      1992   16.4   9.2   2.2   3.1   1.0   1.3  1.0
.10   Greg Ballard     1980   16.9   8.4   2.1   2.9   1.3   1.9   .5

.11   Troy Murphy      2008   16.8   9.3   2.4   3.8    .9   1.7   .6
.11   Gary Trent       1999   18.9   9.4   2.2   3.2    .8   1.7   .6
.11   Brad Miller      2002   17.1   9.9   2.5   3.8   1.2   1.8   .6
.12   Donyell Marshall 2005   17.4   9.1   1.7   2.8   1.2    .9   .9
.13   Glen Davis       2013   17.0   8.6   2.0   3.0   1.1   2.2   .7

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Pau Gasol       2013   14.7   9.3   4.6   2.0   .5   2.3   1.2

.13   Rodney McCray   1990   15.8   8.1   4.2   2.1   .7   2.0    .8
.15   Antoine Walker  2004   14.0   8.9   4.6   2.7   .8   2.6    .8
.22   Brad Miller     2006   15.4   8.1   4.9   2.9   .8   2.3    .8
.22   Lamar Odom      2006   14.6   9.1   5.3   2.9   .8   2.4    .7
.22   Mychal Thompson 1983   14.4   9.6   4.4   2.6   .8   3.5   1.4

.29   Vlade Divac     1999   14.7  10.0   4.5   3.5   .9   2.7   1.1
.31   Alex English    1979   16.1   8.3   3.4   2.9   .9   2.6   1.1
.31   Chris Webber    2007   14.2   9.7   3.9   2.9  1.2   2.2    .8
.34   Antonio Davis   2003   14.2   8.6   2.7   2.9   .4   2.3   1.2
.34   Vin Baker       1995   15.2  10.5   3.3   3.2  1.0   2.5   1.3

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Monta Ellis     2013   18.7   3.7   5.5   1.9   2.0   3.0   .4

.04   Kemba Walker    2013   18.3   3.7   5.1   1.9   2.0   2.5   .3
.08  Brandon Jennings 2011   18.5   4.3   5.2   2.3   1.6   2.5   .3
.09  Latrell Sprewell 1998   18.6   3.4   5.1   1.8   1.3   3.0   .3
.11   Archie Clark    1971   18.6   3.7   4.7   2.5   1.8   2.4   .3
.11   Baron Davis     2008   18.4   4.1   5.6   2.8   2.2   2.6   .5

.12   Mike Conley     2013   18.1   3.2   6.6   2.2   2.3   2.5   .3
.12   Chris Mullin    1988   20.5   3.7   4.7   2.4   2.0   2.8   .6
.13   Michael Adams   1989   17.2   3.5   5.6   2.0   2.2   2.4   .1
.13   Joe Johnson     2006   18.6   4.0   5.5   2.0   1.1   2.9   .3
.14   Jrue Holiday    2013   18.0   4.2   6.5   2.1   1.5   3.6   .4

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Enes Kanter     2013   17.2   10.2   1.0   3.6   .9   3.2    .9

.06  Amare Stoudemire 2003   16.3   10.3   1.1   3.7   .9   2.6   1.2
.11   J.J. Hickson    2011   16.9   11.8   1.4   3.6   .8   2.9    .8
.11   Spencer Haywood 1976   17.9   10.6   1.2   3.3   .7   2.3   1.0
.12   Chris Kaman     2013   18.1    9.5   1.3   3.6   .8   2.7   1.4
.14   Malik Rose      2002   15.7    9.7   1.2   3.9  1.3   2.6    .8

.14   Truck Robinson  1980   18.1   10.3   1.7   3.5   .8   3.4    .8
.14  JoeBarry Carroll 1981   17.6    9.7   1.3   4.0   .6   3.1   1.5
.14   Armon Gilliam   1990   18.6    9.3   1.4   3.2  1.0   2.8    .8
.14   Chris Gatling   1995   19.6   10.3   1.1   4.3   .9   2.7   1.2
.14   Bison Dele      1998   19.2   10.4   1.4   3.5   .9   2.5    .8

Something about this stat profile associates with not being able to play a lot of minutes?

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Ty Lawson       2013   18.1   3.0   7.3   1.9   1.6   2.6   .1

.03   Tim Hardaway    2001   17.9   3.1   7.7   2.2   1.3   2.6   .1
.06   John Lucas      1987   18.8   3.4   7.1   2.2   1.9   2.4   .2
.06   Jason Terry     2003   17.8   3.5   7.7   2.1   1.5   3.0   .2
.07  Brandon Jennings 2013   17.8   3.0   6.0   1.9   1.6   2.5   .1
.07   Mark Price      1988   18.8   2.7   6.4   1.6   1.4   2.5   .2

.08   Nick VanExel    1995   16.5   2.8   7.9   2.0   1.2   2.8   .1
.09   Isiah Thomas    1992   18.0   3.3   7.3   2.5   1.5   3.2   .2
.10   Nate Archibald  1974   16.7   2.4   7.7   2.2   1.6   2.6   .2
.11   Mike Bibby      2003   18.8   2.8   5.7   1.8   1.4   2.5   .2
.11   Terrell Brandon 1995   17.7   3.8   7.2   2.1   1.9   2.6   .3

Some good players, and some great ones not in their prime.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO    Blk
.00   Emeka Okafor     2013   14.0   12.2   1.6   2.5   .8   1.9   1.3

.05   Kris Humphries   2012   15.1   12.5   1.6   3.0   .9   2.1   1.3
.07   Nikola Vucevic   2013   14.4   13.4   1.7   3.1   .9   2.0   1.1
.10   Rudy Tomjanovich 1972   14.2   10.4   1.5   2.6   .8   2.1   1.6
.10   Don Smith        1975   12.9   11.3   1.9   2.9   .8   2.2   1.7
.11 Clar. Weatherspoon 2001   13.2   11.1   1.4   2.3  1.1   1.5   1.4

.11   Johnny Kerr      1958   13.4   10.7   1.4   3.0   .8   2.1   1.7
.12   Randy Denton     1973   13.9   11.0   1.4   3.3   .8   2.2   1.7
.12   Mike Gminski     1988   15.6   10.8   1.7   2.2   .8   2.2   1.5
.13   Moses Malone     1991   14.6   11.6   1.1   2.3   .5   2.4   1.3
.13   Tyson Chandler   2013   13.1   12.6   1.2   3.1   .7   1.5   1.6

Some of the same names in these two lists.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO    Blk
.00   Omer Asik       2013   12.2   14.6   1.3   3.3   .7   2.5   1.1

.08   Swen Nater      1975   14.1   14.9   1.2   3.3   .6   2.5   1.2
.09   Jayson Williams 1997   11.5   14.0   1.3   4.1   .6   2.1    .9
.13   Kris Humphries  2011   13.6   14.7   1.4   3.0   .6   1.8   1.4
.20   Nikola Vucevic  2013   14.4   13.4   1.7   3.1   .9   2.0   1.1
.20   Buck Williams   1989   13.6   13.5   1.1   3.3   .9   2.1    .5

.22   Larry Smith     1985   11.1   12.7   1.2   4.1  1.1   2.3    .8
.22 Kermit Washington 1978   13.4   12.3   1.5   4.1  1.0   2.3   1.4
.23   Elmore Smith    1972   12.9   12.6   1.3   3.7   .7   2.1   1.9
.23   Michael Cage    1988   13.3   12.7   1.5   2.7  1.3   2.2    .8
.24   Mel Daniels     1970   13.3   12.9   1.4   3.8   .8   2.2   2.0

Fun fact: Swen Nater is the only guy to lead both the ABA and the NBA in rebounds/game for a season.
Fun fact #2: Nater played 2 years at UCLA and never started a game; he was Bill Walton's backup.

[Mike G]

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Ryan Anderson   2013   19.6   8.1   1.2   2.5   .6   1.4   .4

.13   Antawn Jamison  2011   18.9   7.7   1.7   2.7  1.0   1.5   .6
.13   Terry Mills     1997   18.1   7.2   1.8   2.7   .6   1.4   .5
.13   Alan Henderson  1998   18.5   8.3   1.4   3.1   .7   1.9   .6
.13 Lamarcus Aldridge 2010   18.3   9.0   1.6   2.9   .8   1.3   .6
.14   Dan Issel       1974   21.4   7.8   1.5   2.3   .8   1.9   .4

.14   Carl Landry     2012   19.7   8.0   1.1   3.1   .4   2.2   .4
.15  Rudy Tomjanovich 1979   17.9   8.0   1.7   2.6   .6   1.9   .3
.15   Mike Mitchell   1983   19.2   7.0   1.1   3.3   .7   1.7   .7
.15  Derrick Williams 2013   17.7   8.4    .9   2.4   .8   1.9   .6
.16   Josh Howard     2008   21.2   7.6   2.0   2.7   .8   1.5   .4

Even without the info that Anderson is a 3-point specialist, we get other players with shooting range.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Wilson Chandler 2013   18.7   7.3   1.9   3.9   1.5   1.9   .3

.09   Al Harrington   2004   17.7   8.1   2.2   3.7   1.2   2.4   .3
.09   Albert King     1985   18.3   6.1   2.0   4.1   1.5   2.4   .3
.09   Matt Harpring   2008   17.4   7.4   1.9   4.3   1.2   2.5   .4
.10   Brian Cardinal  2004   17.0   6.5   2.2   4.1   1.3   1.7   .4
.11   Rodney Rogers   2002   17.7   6.3   2.1   4.0   1.2   1.9   .5

.13   Caron Butler    2006   18.3   6.6   2.5   3.2   1.7   2.3   .2
.14   Phil Hubbard    1985   18.1   7.4   1.6   4.0   1.3   2.8   .1
.14   Calvin Natt     1984   18.9   7.1   2.2   3.0   1.0   2.3   .3
.14   Jamaal Wilkes   1976   17.7   8.4   2.2   3.0   1.4   2.3   .4
.15   Josh Howard     2006   19.8   8.0   2.5   3.2   1.3   1.5   .5

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Eric Bledsoe    2013   15.4   5.5   5.4   2.5   2.4   3.0  1.0

.07   Ron Harper      1988   16.0   4.7   5.3   3.1   2.4   3.1  1.0
.13 Anfernee Hardaway 1994   15.8   5.6   6.5   2.5   2.3   3.6   .6
.14   Chris Mullin    1994   15.9   5.5   4.7   1.8   1.7   2.9   .9
.14   Scottie Pippen  1999   14.8   6.5   6.0   2.2   1.9   3.0   .7
.17   John Havlicek   1969   17.2   5.1   5.2   2.9   1.9   2.5   .7

.19   Warren Jabali   1972   14.5   6.1   5.2   3.4   1.9   2.4   .9
.19   Larry Hughes    2001   13.7   5.4   4.6   3.0   1.9   3.1   .6
.19   Toni Kukoc      2000   16.4   5.7   5.8   2.3   1.6   3.0   .6
.20   Doug Christie   1998   15.6   5.2   3.6   2.5   2.4   2.9   .7
.20   Richie Guerin   1959   16.0   5.6   5.2   3.7   1.9   2.5   .8

Is Bledsoe really a SF ?

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Ricky Rubio      2013   13.1   5.1   8.5   3.0   2.9   3.6   .1

.10   Terry Porter     1987   13.0   4.6   8.3   2.6   2.1   3.4   .1
.11   Tim Hardaway     1990   13.1   4.1   8.0   3.2   2.3   3.6   .2
.13   Johnny Moore     1985   11.9   5.3   9.6   3.3   3.1   3.2   .2
.16   Mark Jackson     1988   11.3   4.8   9.6   2.9   2.4   3.0   .1
.18   Quinn Buckner    1980   12.8   4.7   7.1   4.1   2.7   3.0   .1

.18   Gary Grant       1989   11.5   4.1   8.2   3.1   2.6   4.6   .2
.19 Mic.Ray Richardson 1986   14.1   5.8   7.0   3.7   2.9   3.4   .3
.19   Lafayette Lever  1986   11.8   5.6   7.1   2.8   2.5   2.9   .2
.19   Eric Murdock     1993   15.6   4.4   8.5   2.6   2.5   3.0   .1
.19   Warren Jabali    1974   13.3   4.5   7.4   3.6   2.1   4.2   .2

Mercurial players!

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Greivis Vasquez 2013   15.2   5.0   8.5   2.6    .9   3.3   .1

.08   Jameer Nelson   2012   16.3   4.2   8.1   2.9    .9   3.0   .1
.10   Andre Miller    2006   14.8   4.6   8.4   2.7   1.3   3.2   .2
.14   Scott Skiles    1993   15.3   3.7   8.6   3.0   1.1   3.3   .0
.16   Vern Fleming    1990   14.4   4.4   7.2   2.7   1.2   2.6   .1
.17   Sleepy Floyd    1988   14.5   4.2   7.2   2.7   1.4   3.2   .0

.17   Nick VanExel    2000   14.5   3.9   9.1   1.9    .9   2.8   .1
.18   Jose Juan Barea 2012   15.6   3.9   8.4   2.1    .7   3.5   .0
.18  Damon Stoudamire 1998   15.3   4.1   8.0   2.0   1.5   3.0   .1
.19   Ramon Sessions  2012   15.5   4.6   6.5   2.1    .9   2.9   .1
.20   Terry Porter    1989   15.9   4.4   8.2   2.3   1.8   3.0   .1

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Jermaine O'Neal 2013   15.2   10.1   1.2   4.2   .6   2.4   2.4

.04   Elvin Hayes     1981   15.5    9.6   1.2   3.8   .9   2.4   2.2
.06   Mike Green      1974   14.3    9.8   1.2   3.7   .9   2.5   2.5
.08 Jonas Valanciunas 2013   14.6    9.7   1.1   4.5   .4   2.3   2.0
.08   Keon Clark      2002   15.5   10.0   1.5   4.1   .9   2.2   1.9
.09   Elmore Smith    1978   16.3   10.5    .9   4.1   .8   2.4   3.0

.09   Antonio McDyess 1996   15.2    9.3   1.2   3.9   .8   2.4   1.8
.10   Stromile Swift  2008   14.9    9.0    .9   5.0   .7   2.2   2.4
.10   Brendan Haywood 2008   16.1   10.6   1.1   3.6   .5   1.8   2.2
.10   Wayne Cooper    1984   13.6   10.0   1.3   4.8   .5   2.1   2.1
.10   Sam Bowie       1990   14.7   11.0   1.4   3.5   .6   2.0   2.0

[Mike G]

When players have historically average Stl relative to their Ast, and Blk relative to Reb:

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Vince Carter    2013   18.9   5.5   3.1   3.8   1.3   1.8   .8

.06   Reggie Lewis    1990   18.4   5.0   3.0   3.1   1.3   1.7   .9
.07   Jack Twyman     1963   18.4   6.1   2.7   3.9   1.2   2.3   .9
.07   Scott Wedman    1981   17.3   5.6   2.7   3.8   1.2   2.1   .6
.07   Frank Ramsey    1958   17.8   5.9   2.9   4.2   1.3   2.3   .8
.09   Walt Williams   1997   17.6   5.5   2.8   4.0   1.4   2.4   .9

.09  Terry Dischinger 1965   17.8   4.8   2.7   3.4   1.2   2.1   .6
.10   Don Nelson      1972   17.3   6.2   2.9   3.6   1.3   2.3   .9
.10   Hal Greer       1963   17.9   4.8   3.4   3.9   1.5   2.3   .6
.10   Tom Heinsohn    1964   17.3   5.6   3.1   4.5   1.4   2.3   .8
.11   Paul Arizin     1958   18.5   5.7   2.2   3.6   1.1   2.2   .8

Lewis 'wins' by virtue of relatively low TO rate.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Shawn Marion     2013   15.0   9.3   2.9   2.0   1.3   1.8    .9

.08   Horace Grant     1997   13.7   9.6   2.6   2.4   1.5   1.5   1.0
.11   Gerald Wallace   2011   16.3   8.8   2.3   2.5   1.4   2.1    .8
.12   Lamar Odom       2008   15.1  10.3   3.0   2.8    .9   1.9    .9
.14   Ken Norman       1993   15.5   8.4   2.2   2.3    .8   1.8    .8
.15   Tiago Splitter   2013   16.5   9.6   2.4   2.8   1.1   1.8   1.1

.16   Al Horford       2012   16.8   8.9   2.8   2.3   1.1   1.7   1.5
.16   Bob Netolicky    1973   13.4   8.1   2.4   1.9   1.2   2.0   1.2
.16   John Shumate     1977   15.2   9.5   2.2   2.8   1.3   2.2   1.2
.18   Ken Norman       1989   15.1   8.0   3.1   2.8   1.3   2.6    .8
.19 Clar. Weatherspoon 1994   16.7  10.0   2.3   1.8   1.2   2.3   1.4

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Jeff Teague     2013   17.2   2.6   7.7   2.5   1.6   3.2   .4

.03   Kevin Johnson   1993   17.5   2.3   7.7   2.2   1.9   3.3   .4
.07   Nate Archibald  1974   16.7   2.4   7.7   2.2   1.6   2.6   .2
.10   Isiah Thomas    1992   18.0   3.3   7.3   2.5   1.5   3.2   .2
.10   Spud Webb       1992   15.2   3.0   6.9   2.6   1.7   3.1   .3
.10   Gus Williams    1985   17.1   2.5   7.3   2.0   2.3   2.7   .4

.11   Isiah Thomas    1993   15.9   3.0   8.5   2.8   1.6   3.6   .2
.11   Devin Harris    2012   16.4   2.6   6.6   2.9   1.4   2.6   .3
.12   Dave Bing       1975   16.3   3.4   7.5   2.6   1.4   2.6   .3
.12   Larry Drew      1984   15.7   2.3   7.7   2.6   1.8   3.0   .2
.12   Derek Harper    1989   17.7   2.9   6.9   2.7   2.2   2.6   .5

These are last legs for Isiah and Bing.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Glen Davis      2013   17.0   8.6   2.0   3.0   1.1   2.2   .7

.04   Sam Perkins     1990   17.0   8.1   2.4   3.1   1.2   2.0   .9
.04   Greg Ballard    1980   16.9   8.4   2.1   2.9   1.3   1.9   .5
.06   Armon Gilliam   1998   16.0   7.8   1.8   2.9   1.0   2.4   .6
.06   Gerald Wallace  2011   16.3   8.8   2.3   2.5   1.4   2.1   .8
.06   Cedric Ceballos 1997   17.1   8.5   1.6   2.8    .8   2.1   .6

.07   Gary Trent      1997   17.2   8.0   1.6   3.2    .8   2.2   .6
.07   Jamaal Wilkes   1976   17.7   8.4   2.2   3.0   1.4   2.3   .4
.07   Dave Robisch    1980   16.1   8.5   2.3   2.9    .7   1.9   .7
.07   Ken Norman      1991   17.6   7.7   2.4   3.0   1.0   2.2  1.0
.07   Keith Van Horn  2002   18.4   9.0   2.5   3.2    .9   2.1   .6

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Kemba Walker    2013   18.3   3.7   5.1   1.9   2.0   2.5   .3

.04   Monta Ellis     2013   18.7   3.7   5.5   1.9   2.0   3.0   .4
.05  Brandon Jennings 2011   18.5   4.3   5.2   2.3   1.6   2.5   .3
.06   Archie Clark    1971   18.6   3.7   4.7   2.5   1.8   2.4   .3
.07   Michael Adams   1989   17.2   3.5   5.6   2.0   2.2   2.4   .1
.08   Jrue Holiday    2012   16.9   3.7   4.4   2.3   1.7   2.3   .3

.10   Mike Riordan    1973   16.5   3.9   4.7   2.4   1.8   2.3   .4
.10   Jeff Hornacek   1994   17.0   3.7   5.4   2.4   1.7   2.3   .2
.11   Chris Mullin    1997   17.7   4.6   4.2   2.1   1.7   2.6   .4
.11   Jimmy Jones     1974   16.2   3.8   5.0   2.4   1.8   2.8   .4
.11  Latrell Sprewell 1998   18.6   3.4   5.1   1.8   1.3   3.0   .3

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Tyson Chandler  2013   13.1   12.6   1.2   3.1   .7   1.5   1.6

.02   Dale Davis      2000   12.7   12.3   1.1   3.3   .9   1.5   1.5
.07   Emeka Okafor    2005   14.0   11.7    .9   3.0   .9   1.8   1.8
.10   Marcin Gortat   2011   14.3   10.9   1.2   3.1   .6   1.3   1.4
.11   Elmore Smith    1972   12.9   12.6   1.3   3.7   .7   2.1   1.9
.12   Joe Smith       2004   13.2   10.4   1.3   3.3   .7   1.3   1.5

.13   Will Perdue     1997   11.4   12.9    .7   3.4   .6   1.6   1.9
.13   Kris Humphries  2011   13.6   14.7   1.4   3.0   .6   1.8   1.4
.15   Mel Daniels     1969   13.8   10.8   1.2   3.5   .7   2.1   1.7
.15   Johnny Kerr     1958   13.4   10.7   1.4   3.0   .8   2.1   1.7
.15   Nate Thurmond   1966   11.2   12.3   1.3   2.9   .8   2.0   1.9

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb  Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Deandre Jordan  2013   14.4   11.6   .5   3.4   .9   1.8   1.7

.07   Emeka Okafor    2010   12.8   12.2   .6   3.4   .8   1.7   1.9
.09   Nazr Mohammed   2005   13.2   11.0   .6   4.1  1.0   1.9   1.5
.09   Dale Davis      1995   13.3   11.7   .9   3.4  1.1   1.9   1.8
.12   Dwight Howard   2005   14.3   11.4  1.0   3.1  1.0   2.2   1.8
.14   Tyson Chandler  2012   14.7   11.8  1.2   3.4  1.0   1.8   1.6

.14   Drew Gooden     2010   15.8   11.7   .7   4.0   .8   2.2   1.2
.15   Robert Parish   1993   16.4   12.3  1.0   3.2   .9   1.9   1.7
.15   Olden Polynice  1996   14.2   11.7   .8   3.6   .8   1.8   1.0
.17  Samuel Dalembert 2013   14.7   12.3   .9   4.1   .8   2.3   2.3
.18  Tristan Thompson 2012   12.1   10.1   .6   3.4   .7   2.1   1.5

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Tyreke Evans    2013   17.5   5.4   3.9   2.4   1.6   2.3   .5

.05   John Havlicek   1966   17.1   5.0   3.4   2.6   1.4   2.2   .6
.05   Sidney Moncrief 1981   17.7   6.0   3.5   2.3   1.3   2.1   .5
.05   Ricky Davis     2004   17.2   5.3   4.0   2.5   1.4   2.7   .3
.06   Chris Mullin    1997   17.7   4.6   4.2   2.1   1.7   2.6   .4
.07  Latrell Sprewell 1996   17.3   4.9   4.0   1.9   1.6   2.8   .6

.07   Ron Artest      2009   18.4   5.8   3.2   2.3   1.6   2.1   .4
.07   Kendall Gill    1992   17.5   5.1   3.8   3.0   2.0   2.3   .6
.07   Larry Hughes    2003   15.5   5.5   3.8   2.5   1.4   2.3   .4
.08   Cuttino Mobley  2004   17.0   4.7   3.4   2.1   1.3   2.1   .4
.08   Nick Anderson   1994   16.8   6.4   3.7   2.0   1.8   2.2   .4

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Danilo Gallinari 2013   18.6   6.0   2.7   2.0   1.0   1.7   .5

.02   Luol Deng        2011   18.9   6.2   2.9   1.9    .9   1.8   .5
.07   Lamond Murray    2002   18.6   6.3   2.5   2.3   1.1   2.2   .7
.07 Quentin Richardson 2002   17.9   5.6   2.1   2.3   1.2   1.6   .3
.08   Steve Mix        1981   18.7   6.2   2.5   2.5   1.4   2.1   .4
.08   Wally Szczerbiak 2003   19.8   5.1   2.8   2.5    .9   1.7   .4

.08   Sean Elliott     1992   16.9   5.3   2.5   1.8   1.0   1.8   .3
.09   Nick Anderson    1998   20.0   6.6   2.7   2.0   1.5   1.8   .5
.09   Michael Finley   2003   19.7   5.5   2.9   1.5   1.1   1.6   .3
.09   Cuttino Mobley   2001   20.4   5.3   2.5   2.1   1.1   2.1   .3
.10   Glen Rice        1993   18.1   5.3   2.1   2.4   1.1   1.9   .3

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Thaddeus Young  2013   16.5   8.1   1.5   2.6   1.8   1.2   .7

.12   Rashard Lewis   2002   18.7   7.6   1.8   2.5   1.5   1.4   .6
.13   Chris Morris    1993   16.4   7.0   1.6   2.6   2.2   1.8   .8
.14   Antawn Jamison  2007   17.7   8.2   1.6   2.7   1.1   1.4   .5
.14   Kawhi Leonard   2013   15.1   7.2   2.0   2.0   1.9   1.2   .6
.14   Josh Howard     2005   14.9   7.3   1.6   3.1   1.7   1.8   .7

.17  Donyell Marshall 2005   17.4   9.1   1.7   2.8   1.2    .9   .9
.18   Ersan Ilyasova  2013   17.6   9.1   2.0   3.3   1.2   1.3   .6
.19   Marvin Williams 2012   15.8   7.7   1.7   2.0   1.1   1.0   .4
.20   Sam Perkins     1996   15.9   6.2   1.9   2.8   1.3   1.3   .8
.20   Greg Ballard    1981   15.6   7.7   2.5   2.7   1.6   1.6   .5

[Mike G]

Some 2013 rookies:

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   John Henson     2013   15.4   11.8   1.2   3.4   .8   1.9   1.6

.03   Tyson Chandler  2012   14.7   11.8   1.2   3.4  1.0   1.8   1.6
.04   Robert Parish   1993   16.4   12.3   1.0   3.2   .9   1.9   1.7
.06   Sam Bowie       1990   14.7   11.0   1.4   3.5   .6   2.0   2.0
.07   Emeka Okafor    2005   14.0   11.7    .9   3.0   .9   1.8   1.8
.07   Mel Daniels     1969   13.8   10.8   1.2   3.5   .7   2.1   1.7

.07   Chris Kaman     2006   14.9   11.6   1.2   3.9   .6   2.5   1.6
.08   Dwight Howard   2005   14.3   11.4   1.0   3.1  1.0   2.2   1.8
.08   Kris Humphries  2012   15.1   12.5   1.6   3.0   .9   2.1   1.3
.08   Randy Denton    1973   13.9   11.0   1.4   3.3   .8   2.2   1.7
.09   Derrick Favors  2012   14.6   11.0   1.1   3.6   .9   2.6   1.5

Henson had pretty high fouls, as rookies do. Low TO, though.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast   PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Chris Copeland   2013   21.0   5.0   1.2   4.1   .6   2.0   .6

.13   James Edwards    1990   18.8   5.4    .9   4.5   .4   2.0   .6
.14 Corliss Williamson 2004   18.4   5.6   1.3   4.1   .6   2.3   .4
.18   Lou Hudson       1967   17.4   4.8   1.2   4.0   .7   1.9   .6
.18   George Yardley   1959   19.7   6.1   1.2   3.1   .7   2.2   .9
.18   Bob Love         1972   22.1   5.5   1.5   2.9   .8   2.3   .7

.18   Travis Grant     1975   22.2   5.1   1.7   3.0   .8   2.2   .4
.22   Mike Mitchell    1985   20.6   5.5   1.7   2.8   .8   1.9   .3
.23   Jack Twyman      1958   18.7   5.4   1.9   3.7  1.0   2.2   .7
.23  Orlando Woolridge 1984   20.1   5.5   1.8   3.6  1.0   2.7   .9
.24   Jamaal Wilkes    1982   20.8   4.9   1.6   3.1  1.1   2.1   .3

Scorers who don't pass and foul a bit.

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Harrison Barnes  2013   13.2   5.9   1.7   2.4    .9   1.8   .2

.05 Quentin Richardson 2001   14.2   6.1   1.5   2.2   1.0   1.5   .2
.06   Ron Anderson     1988   14.1   5.9   2.0   2.7   1.1   2.0   .2
.06   Vladi Radmanovic 2003   13.8   6.2   1.9   2.4   1.2   1.8   .4
.06   Donald Royal     1994   13.4   5.9   1.4   2.8   1.2   1.8   .4
.06   Hakim Warrick    2013   13.1   6.7   1.5   2.7    .9   2.1   .3

.07   Ron Anderson     1987   13.0   5.8   2.0   2.5   1.2   2.1   .1
.07   Desmond Mason    2006   12.8   5.6   1.2   2.4    .7   2.0   .3
.07   Jeff Grayer      1994   12.2   5.2   1.6   2.9    .9   1.7   .4
.08   Derrick Brown    2012   12.7   5.9   1.3   2.3   1.2   1.3   .2
.08   Steve Mix        1982   13.4   5.7   2.1   2.1   1.0   1.7   .4

We'd get a different list from his playoff stats.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00   Bradley Beal    2013   17.2   4.4   2.7   2.3   1.0   1.9   .6

.02  Gerald Henderson 2013   17.7   4.4   2.5   2.5   1.1   1.8   .5
.02   Jim McMillian   1973   17.4   4.7   2.7   2.2   1.2   2.1   .6
.03   Cuttino Mobley  2003   17.7   4.1   2.8   2.3   1.2   2.1   .5
.04   Cazzie Russell  1973   16.1   4.3   2.6   2.5   1.2   2.0   .5
.05   Reggie Miller   1989   17.2   4.2   3.0   2.5   1.3   2.1   .4

.06   Ed Macauley     1956   17.1   5.1   2.9   2.4   1.3   2.2   .7
.06   Voshon Lenard   2002   16.0   3.7   2.7   2.1   1.2   1.8   .5
.07   Jamaal Wilkes   1984   17.3   5.1   2.7   3.0   1.0   2.0   .6
.07   Dennis Scott    1993   16.8   3.9   2.7   2.7   1.2   2.1   .4
.07  Jason Richardson 2012   16.2   4.9   2.9   2.2   1.3   1.4   .5

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl   TO   Blk
.00  Patrick Beverley 2013   11.1   5.4   6.3   4.0   1.8   2.1   .9

.04   Walt Frazier    1968   11.0   5.1   5.9   4.1   2.0   2.2   .7
.07   Danny Finn      1953   10.4   6.2   5.6   4.4   2.0   2.2   .9
.11   Andy Phillip    1953   11.0   4.8   6.2   3.2   2.1   2.2   .6
.11   Herm Gilliam    1973   12.0   4.7   6.0   3.5   2.0   2.2   .6
.12   Michael Cooper  1984   10.6   4.0   6.2   3.9   1.7   2.2  1.0

.15   Dick McGuire    1952   11.3   5.3   7.4   3.2   2.3   2.5   .7
.15   Richie Guerin   1958   12.0   5.2   4.9   3.2   1.8   2.1   .7
.16   Tom Gola        1960   11.7   6.7   5.0   4.1   1.8   2.2  1.0
.17   Lenny Wilkens   1963   10.0   4.4   5.4   3.6   1.9   2.0   .5
.20   Norm Van Lier   1973   12.9   5.1   7.3   3.5   2.3   2.6   .7

Beverley "looks like" guys who played when guards weren't expected to score much.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Anthony Davis   2013   17.8   11.2   1.1   3.1   1.5   1.7   1.9

.09   Robert Parish   1992   17.8   10.9   1.0   2.6   1.0   2.0   1.5
.09   David Robinson  2002   16.4   10.4   1.5   3.0   1.3   1.6   2.1
.09   Matt Geiger     1998   17.2   10.4   1.5   3.5   1.2   2.0   1.6
.15   Hakeem Olajuwon 2001   15.8   10.1   1.7   3.1   1.6   1.8   2.0
.15   Marcin Gortat   2012   18.8   12.1   1.1   2.5    .9   1.6   1.7

.15   Vlade Divac     1991   15.7   10.6   1.3   3.7   1.6   2.2   1.9
.16  Donyell Marshall 2004   17.3    9.9   1.7   3.1   1.2   1.5   1.5
.17   Joe Smith       1996   15.3    9.8   1.0   2.9   1.1   1.8   1.7
.18   Dino Radja      1996   18.4   10.0   1.5   3.0    .9   2.2   1.5
.20   Shawn Marion    2006   19.6   10.3   1.6   2.5   1.8   1.4   1.5

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diff   per-36 rates    yr     Sco    Reb  Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Andre Drummond  2013   14.0   13.5   .8   4.0   1.6   1.6   2.3

.17  Samuel Dalembert 2012   13.2   12.4   .8   4.1    .9   2.1   2.6
.18   Marcus Camby    2001   15.7   13.6  1.0   3.5   1.1   1.1   2.3
.18   Kosta Koufos    2012   12.4   12.4   .7   4.3   1.1   1.4   1.7
.20   Dale Davis      1995   13.3   11.7   .9   3.4   1.1   1.9   1.8
.20   Emeka Okafor    2007   15.1   12.8  1.0   3.4    .9   1.8   2.7

.21   Tyson Chandler  2005   11.8   12.5  1.1   4.2   1.1   1.9   2.2
.29   Dan Gadzuric    2005   11.4   13.3   .6   4.1    .9   1.5   1.9
.30   Deandre Jordan  2013   14.4   11.6   .5   3.4    .9   1.8   1.7
.30   Dwight Howard   2005   14.3   11.4  1.0   3.1   1.0   2.2   1.8
.32   Nazr Mohammed   2005   13.2   11.0   .6   4.1   1.0   1.9   1.5

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diff   per-36 rates    yr    Sco   Reb   Ast   PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Festus Ezeli    2013   5.7   9.7    .7   4.8   .7   1.9   2.0

.04   Ervin Johnson   1995   5.5  10.1    .5   5.2   .6   1.7   2.2
.09   Adonal Foyle    1999   5.7   9.0   1.0   4.3   .7   1.5   2.0
.09   Alton Lister    1995   5.6   9.5    .4   5.4   .6   1.4   2.1
.11   Chris Dudley    1990   5.9  10.1    .9   3.9  1.0   2.0   1.7
.12   Marvin Webster  1984   6.2   9.6   1.2   4.5   .8   2.0   2.4

.12   Caldwell Jones  1987   6.0   9.4   1.1   4.6   .5   1.8   1.6
.14   Mark Eaton      1991   6.3  10.0    .7   4.2   .5   1.4   2.6
.16  Kendrick Perkins 2005   6.9   8.9   1.0   4.7   .4   2.1   1.8
.17  Harvey Catchings 1978   4.8   8.7   1.2   4.7   .8   1.7   2.5
.18   Felton Spencer  1993   6.4   8.6    .4   5.9   .6   1.7   1.6

Hard-core non-scoring shotblockers.

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diff   per-36 rates    yr    Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   Draymond Green  2013   6.7   8.3   1.6   5.0   1.3   1.6    .7

.09   Jason Collins   2005   6.8   7.5   1.6   4.6   1.0   1.3   1.0
.11   Kurt Rambis     1993   5.6   8.0   1.7   4.3   1.4   1.3    .6
.11   E C. Coleman    1975   8.3   8.1   1.6   4.4   1.3   1.5    .6
.11   Darrall Imhoff  1965   6.7   7.9   1.8   5.0   1.0   1.5   1.2
.11   Ron Riley       1974   6.7   8.2   1.7   4.6    .9   1.5   1.1

.12   Dennis Awtrey   1972   6.9   7.5   1.7   5.2    .9   1.4   1.1
.13   Kurt Thomas     2012   6.6   8.2   1.9   5.0   1.0   1.3   1.2
.13   Eduardo Najera  2006   7.4   8.1   1.2   3.9   1.3   1.3    .8
.14   Francisco Elson 2006   7.9   8.3   1.1   4.9   1.3   1.5   1.0
.14   Henry Finkel    1972   6.6   7.6   2.0   4.3   1.0   1.5   1.1

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diff   per-36 rates     yr     Sco   Reb   Ast    PF   Stl    TO   Blk
.00   M Kidd-Gilchrist 2013   12.2   8.4   1.8   2.9   1.0   1.8   1.0

.04 Clar. Weatherspoon 1997   11.8   8.5   1.7   2.4    .9   1.7   1.1
.05   Ray Scott        1967   12.4   8.5   2.1   3.2   1.0   1.9   1.3
.05   Dave Robisch     1976   11.9   8.2   2.0   2.6    .9   1.5    .8
.06   Derrick Coleman  2004   11.4   8.2   1.9   3.2    .9   2.3   1.0
.06   Willis Reed      1972   12.5   8.6   2.2   3.0   1.1   2.0   1.3

.06   Andray Blatche   2012   12.2   8.9   1.4   3.1   1.1   2.1   1.0
.06   John Beasley     1971   12.6   7.1   1.6   2.8    .9   1.7   1.1
.07   Red Robbins      1972   11.5   7.7   1.6   2.4    .9   1.7   1.2
.07   Horace Grant     1989   12.2   9.4   2.1   3.3   1.1   1.7    .8
.08   Jim Washington   1972   10.9   8.1   1.7   3.4    .9   1.7   1.2

No explanation for why he resembles several ABA guys -- also Zelmo Beaty, Wil Jones.