APBRmetrics

I recently posted a series of videos on the Magic Metric, and speculated that Kevin Durant was having the strongest year.
I made a promise to run the numbers at the all star break, and so here they are.

Previously I talked about why I felt MM/game and MM/minute are equally valuable indicators of a players value, so the product of these two
is used to rank the NBA players performance. 4 players have a per minute ranking above .7 typically indicative of MVP consideration.

The efficiency ranking of players is given for comparison purposes, taken from hoopstat.com

Sorry the columns don't line up...

MM Eff Player MM/g MM/min MMprod
1 1 K. Durant 29.97741 0.784749 23.52474
2 3 L. James 26.85837 0.718138 19.28802
3 2 K. Love 25.96712 0.715348 18.57552
4 5 C. Paul 24.72344 0.716621 17.71735
5 10 S. Curry 24.63667 0.65523 16.14269
6 4 B. Griffin 22.5671 0.625127 14.10731
7 9 C. Anthony 23.0698 0.593054 13.68164
8 16 D. Nowitzki 20.69293 0.640648 13.25688
9 8 D. Cousins 20.74581 0.638333 13.24273
10 6 L. Aldridge 22.03752 0.595609 13.12574
11 15 J. Harden 21.46125 0.560346 12.02572
12 7 A. Davis 20.736 0.579218 12.01066
13 26 R. Westbrook 19.66572 0.597742 11.75503
14 11 A. Jefferson 19.91518 0.587468 11.69953
15 24 J. Wall 20.55963 0.555666 11.42428
16 22 P. George 20.25549 0.562653 11.3968
17 25 G. Dragic 19.41974 0.559647 10.86819
18 31 T. Lawson 19.25745 0.539424 10.38794
19 34 D. Lillard 19.28236 0.534137 10.29943
20 13 A. Horford 18.3616 0.556412 10.21661
21 28 K. Lowry 19.21828 0.530892 10.20283
22 37 K. Irving 18.8695 0.537593 10.1441
23 21 B. Lopez 17.77907 0.566212 10.06672
24 40 I. Thomas 18.53915 0.538929 9.991281
25 20 T. Duncan 16.98098 0.57175 9.708872
26 12 D. Howard 18.23939 0.531761 9.69899
27 43 M. Conley 18.11266 0.526531 9.536868
28 32 D. Wade 17.76236 0.533404 9.474518
29 36 E. Bledsoe 17.80348 0.531447 9.461609
30 27 P. Millsap 17.5127 0.529085 9.2657
31 23 P. Gasol 17.17154 0.538293 9.243316
32 42 D. DeRozan 18.11038 0.479111 8.676875
33 18 D. Lee 17.22205 0.503569 8.672486
34 62 T. Parker 16.2593 0.526191 8.555496
35 48 M. Ellis 17.27375 0.474554 8.19732
36 53 K. Walker 17.15245 0.476457 8.172399
37 59 B. Jennings 17.13484 0.473338 8.110573
38 41 C. Bosh 15.94938 0.501553 7.999457
39 51 J. Holiday 16.38961 0.487786 7.994622
40 39 C. Parsons 17.14392 0.455955 7.816857
41 55 A. Afflalo 16.72774 0.459553 7.687288
42 29 S. Ibaka 15.60719 0.478748 7.471913
43 58 M. Carter-Williams 16.04553 0.465088 7.462576
44 19 J. Noah 15.76606 0.462348 7.289403
45 94 J. Crawford 14.85174 0.485351 7.208307
46 30 N. Pekovic 15.19173 0.467438 7.101185
47 67 K. Marshall 15.2553 0.465101 7.095249
48 44 S. Hawes 14.87507 0.473728 7.046738
49 82 D. Williams 14.61837 0.47156 6.893443
50 108 M. Ginobili 12.60574 0.538707 6.790798
51 17 A. Drummond 14.84038 0.456627 6.776519
52 85 K. Martin 14.78836 0.457844 6.770761
53 57 G. Hayward 15.66598 0.43157 6.760962
54 66 R. Rubio 14.5843 0.461528 6.73107
55 49 R. Anderson 15.57875 0.431544 6.722921
56 76 W. Matthews 15.20188 0.441915 6.717941
57 56 T. Ariza 15.41641 0.430626 6.638707
58 33 N. Vucevic 14.51359 0.456402 6.62403
59 81 J. Teague 14.54604 0.45174 6.571034
60 45 L. Stephenson 15.22013 0.429947 6.543848
61 88 B. Knight 14.47548 0.45095 6.527711
62 86 R. Rondo 13.50515 0.482327 6.513896
63 47 N. Batum 15.29427 0.423664 6.479631
64 65 D. West 13.93812 0.46306 6.454192
65 60 T. Young 14.65755 0.440167 6.451765
66 14 D. Jordan 15.12746 0.421378 6.37437
67 35 Z. Randolph 14.82924 0.429833 6.374093
68 105 D. Augustin 13.93003 0.453747 6.320703
69 69 R. Gay 14.97394 0.421801 6.316025
70 68 J. Smith 14.83858 0.415646 6.1676
71 116 J. Redick 13.319 0.462465 6.15957
72 77 K. Leonard 13.19631 0.461409 6.088902
73 87 J. Nelson 14.12262 0.430568 6.080739
74 61 J. Henson 12.94833 0.46244 5.98783
75 71 E. Turner 14.42296 0.413265 5.960509
76 97 P. Pierce 13.07594 0.452455 5.91627
77 63 M. Gasol 13.91985 0.424386 5.907385
78 38 A. Bogut 12.74368 0.463407 5.905505
79 93 K. Thompson 14.81472 0.395059 5.852691
80 103 B. Beal 13.90582 0.41885 5.824453
81 122 T. Evans 11.95342 0.483944 5.784787
82 80 N. Hilario 13.21902 0.436271 5.767079
83 111 R. Jackson 12.7566 0.449176 5.729959
84 54 D. Favors 13.06178 0.429664 5.612174
85 50 M. Gortat 13.38048 0.414256 5.542949
86 52 G. Monroe 13.27187 0.416046 5.52171
87 72 C. Boozer 12.78355 0.428978 5.483864
88 130 G. Green 12.41928 0.438844 5.45012
89 117 E. Gordon 13.28133 0.407403 5.410851
90 73 T. Jones 12.31458 0.438241 5.396757
91 118 J. Calderon 12.97457 0.415851 5.395492
92 90 K. Korver 13.54572 0.396074 5.365103
93 100 S. Blake 13.25546 0.401681 5.324461
94 98 C. Lee 13.20977 0.400296 5.287819
95 46 A. Varejao 12.62608 0.418082 5.278738
96 110 W. Chandler 12.78492 0.411091 5.255761
97 144 N. Young 12.2656 0.425889 5.223783
98 120 A. Blatche 10.7065 0.486659 5.210416
99 109 C. Frye 12.19987 0.422141 5.150063
100 126 J. Johnson 13.03915 0.392745 5.121063
101 123 J. Lin 12.5485 0.407419 5.112495
102 189 P. Mills 9.541335 0.530074 5.057615
103 106 G. Hill 12.47722 0.399911 4.989776
104 102 M. Morris 11.25694 0.443187 4.988925
105 137 C. Kaman 9.63602 0.515295 4.965395
106 84 T. Harris 12.66072 0.391973 4.962657
107 114 V. Oladipo 12.50096 0.396856 4.961079
108 113 J. Green 12.91184 0.383141 4.947051
109 133 B. Wright 9.574 0.514731 4.928036
110 125 M. Chalmers 11.927 0.411276 4.905287
111 79 J. Sullinger 11.53846 0.424208 4.894708
112 124 G. Henderson 12.5234 0.38065 4.767038
113 157 D. Collison 10.53316 0.450135 4.741344
114 83 K. Faried 10.84469 0.43553 4.723185
115 159 V. Carter 10.63316 0.44121 4.691456
116 128 K. Bryant 11.75255 0.398392 4.682116
117 74 J. Hickson 11.41814 0.409252 4.6729
118 95 A. Iguodala 12.52662 0.372816 4.670125
119 104 J. McRoberts 11.87446 0.393194 4.668967
120 134 J. Meeks 12.301 0.376177 4.627358
121 151 M. Belinelli 10.8388 0.426724 4.625181
122 188 D. Harris 9.27412 0.495942 4.599428
123 142 T. Burke 11.87848 0.385665 4.581113
124 101 D. Carroll 11.91903 0.383249 4.567951
125 143 A. Burks 11.16464 0.408961 4.565904
126 167 J. Farmar 9.8265 0.463514 4.554722
127 112 L. Deng 12.1462 0.369185 4.4842
128 132 P. Patterson 10.04656 0.433041 4.350576
129 91 T. Gibson 11.27334 0.384756 4.337481
130 129 M. Williams 10.74017 0.403766 4.336513
131 70 T. Chandler 11.14372 0.385596 4.296972
132 139 J. Johnson 9.646475 0.442499 4.268554
133 153 J. Smith 11.74844 0.36149 4.246949
134 166 R. Foye 10.89397 0.38907 4.238521
135 75 R. Hibbert 11.33153 0.372748 4.223798
136 96 S. Marion 11.44908 0.36462 4.174568
137 199 N. Robinson 9.03892 0.454217 4.105632
138 174 R. Stuckey 10.22733 0.401072 4.101893
139 92 A. Johnson 10.7946 0.378758 4.08854
140 146 K. Middleton 10.89052 0.372963 4.061761
141 141 B. Diaw 10.11703 0.401469 4.061678
142 183 J. Lamb 9.44065 0.427179 4.032845
143 177 D. Waiters 10.61735 0.377842 4.011677
144 107 J. Butler 12.1383 0.326298 3.960708
145 64 R. Lopez 11.11204 0.355017 3.944962
146 115 B. Bass 10.36468 0.378273 3.920679
147 131 J. Hill 8.75368 0.446616 3.909536
148 127 A. Bargnani 10.79344 0.360985 3.896266
149 214 C. Miles 8.73545 0.445686 3.89327
150 179 C. Butler 9.6379 0.403259 3.886574
151 119 G. Davis 10.80979 0.359129 3.882112
152 195 M. Scott 8.13399 0.472906 3.846616
153 155 M. Dunleavy 10.59612 0.357977 3.793168
154 160 A. Bradley 10.75817 0.351574 3.782295
155 145 R. Felton 11.05737 0.341277 3.773624
156 210 S. Mack 8.388415 0.446192 3.742846
157 156 K. Humphries 8.38185 0.443484 3.717217
158 89 J. Valanciunas 10.09573 0.365787 3.692886
159 148 T. Mozgov 8.64114 0.425672 3.678291
160 186 R. Sessions 9.325065 0.393463 3.669065
161 152 K. Garnett 8.82404 0.414274 3.655572
162 150 T. Allen 9.823245 0.369295 3.627675
163 169 M. Webster 10.24283 0.353201 3.617778
164 178 M. Morris 8.85265 0.404231 3.578512
165 205 L. Williams 9.244495 0.383589 3.546087
166 99 M. Plumlee 9.72961 0.363045 3.532288
167 121 P. Tucker 10.40269 0.33885 3.52495
168 78 T. Thompson 10.75774 0.326983 3.517598
169 162 D. Blair 8.04146 0.437036 3.514406
170 219 M. Beasley 7.32165 0.478539 3.503697
171 140 T. Splitter 8.67125 0.401447 3.481045
172 135 E. Kanter 9.32056 0.371337 3.461069
173 236 J. Barea 7.929765 0.435701 3.45501
174 201 T. Wroten 9.049995 0.378661 3.426879
175 213 M. Teletovic 8.09516 0.419438 3.39542
176 184 D. Green 9.06608 0.37309 3.382461
177 212 B. Roberts 8.4749 0.397883 3.372015
178 190 D. Rose 10.20984 0.328291 3.351795
179 193 M. Williams 9.011 0.370823 3.341486
180 149 P. Beverley 10.2917 0.324659 3.341296
181 161 J. Evans 7.97613 0.415423 3.313471
182 176 A. Stoudemire 8.06822 0.409554 3.304374
183 164 C. Andersen 7.91868 0.414591 3.28301
184 172 C. Brewer 10.20993 0.321067 3.278068
185 168 S. Livingston 8.99065 0.359626 3.233271
186 187 R. Allen 9.18456 0.3479 3.195308
187 165 W. Johnson 9.529595 0.334372 3.186427
188 138 A. Aminu 9.2105 0.344963 3.177278
189 194 R. Jefferson 9.21191 0.343728 3.166391
190 173 J. Anderson 9.48082 0.333832 3.164998
191 223 J. Leuer 6.97124 0.452678 3.155726
192 181 K. Hinrich 9.5459 0.328038 3.131416
193 147 J. Smith 9.159375 0.341768 3.130379
194 196 J. Jack 8.88916 0.343211 3.050856
195 244 W. Bynum 7.36285 0.413643 3.045593
196 192 L. Babbitt 7.92608 0.381062 3.020324
197 202 O. Mayo 9.11044 0.331289 3.018186
198 170 D. Williams 8.93222 0.337065 3.010738
199 136 L. Sanders 8.65263 0.340655 2.947559
200 211 T. Ross 8.666305 0.33721 2.922367
201 224 O. Casspi 7.4557 0.390351 2.910338
202 217 N. Wolters 7.87716 0.358053 2.820439
203 228 M. Plumlee 6.6286 0.42491 2.81656
204 158 S. Dalembert 7.50189 0.375095 2.813918
205 246 T. Hardaway Jr 7.726 0.362723 2.802398
206 239 X. Henry 7.808305 0.358179 2.796772
207 182 H. Barnes 8.98296 0.309757 2.782537
208 226 A. Miller 7.25988 0.382099 2.773993
209 329 J. Pargo 4.8371 0.569071 2.752651
210 247 J. Hamilton 6.82679 0.396906 2.709597
211 175 E. Ilyasova 8.51075 0.316385 2.692672
212 185 A. Bynum 7.315915 0.365796 2.676131
213 218 N. Cole 8.26425 0.322822 2.667884
214 216 L. Scola 6.81669 0.389525 2.655272
215 222 P. Prigioni 7.3418 0.358137 2.629367
216 180 K. Koufos 6.93628 0.374934 2.600648
217 207 E. Brand 6.49421 0.395988 2.571632
218 220 E. Davis 6.4564 0.391297 2.52637
219 171 T. Booker 7.14958 0.352196 2.518054
220 215 D. Green 7.065235 0.353262 2.495877
221 245 S. Nash 7.48528 0.332679 2.490196
222 238 R. Kelly 7.02186 0.351093 2.465326
223 154 Z. Pachulia 7.77324 0.313437 2.436422
224 259 J. Bayless 7.145385 0.340256 2.431263
225 260 G. Vasquez 6.85656 0.351618 2.410893
226 237 C. Johnson 6.958345 0.344473 2.396959
227 235 M. Harris 6.91006 0.345503 2.387446
228 249 P. Antic 6.16234 0.382754 2.358661
229 200 T. Sefolosha 7.964045 0.296061 2.357844
230 221 S. Williams 7.0123 0.335517 2.352744
231 253 B. Udrih 6.67246 0.351182 2.343249
232 312 J. Fredette 5.1375 0.454646 2.335744
233 198 G. Antetokounmpo 7.50941 0.310306 2.330216
234 287 D. Morris 6.12004 0.380127 2.326391
235 163 J. Thompson 7.72448 0.300563 2.321696
236 209 K. Olynyk 6.49335 0.347238 2.254738
237 203 I. Shumpert 7.77029 0.289936 2.252888
238 279 G. Neal 6.72976 0.333156 2.242063
239 240 K. O'Quinn 5.59563 0.399688 2.236505
240 208 K. Martin 6.61532 0.334107 2.210225
241 225 D. Cunningham 6.48634 0.33608 2.179928
242 204 K. Singler 7.5014 0.288515 2.164269
243 230 M. Barnes 7.22579 0.298586 2.157522
244 266 L. Barbosa 6.41576 0.335904 2.155077
245 285 A. Brooks 5.950675 0.356328 2.120391
246 197 M. Kidd-Gilchrist 7.32134 0.28599 2.093829
247 271 C. Watson 6.24652 0.334039 2.086578
248 242 D. Granger 6.841775 0.304079 2.080439
249 251 M. Miller 6.60892 0.31471 2.079896
250 255 A. Anderson 7.16231 0.288803 2.068495
251 276 N. Calathes 5.864675 0.351178 2.059546
252 248 M. Harkless 6.57474 0.310129 2.039019
253 292 A. Randolph 4.97004 0.394448 1.96042
254 191 R. Turiaf 6.396405 0.306048 1.957608
255 232 G. Ayon 5.67605 0.344003 1.952578
256 283 C. Joseph 5.36736 0.360226 1.93346
257 234 L. Mbah A Moute 6.4829 0.297381 1.92789
258 206 L. Allen 5.98708 0.318462 1.906656
259 270 M. Speights 4.818625 0.394969 1.903209
260 272 F. Garcia 6.16367 0.308184 1.899541
261 229 J. O'Neal 6.053 0.313627 1.898384
262 261 A. Nicholson 5.4604 0.345595 1.887087
263 256 J. Dudley 6.978845 0.268417 1.873241
264 231 B. Biyombo 5.3666 0.346232 1.85809
265 233 G. Wallace 6.632675 0.277518 1.840685
266 258 T. Zeller 5.01548 0.366093 1.836134
267 265 J. Salmons 6.577285 0.277523 1.825345
268 315 N. De Colo 4.5778 0.394638 1.806574
269 280 J. Tyler 4.365085 0.4118 1.797544
270 303 A. Morrow 5.293325 0.337154 1.784668
271 300 E. Fournier 5.43676 0.327516 1.780624
272 274 L. Ridnour 6.12768 0.289042 1.771154
273 263 M. Thornton 6.560265 0.268863 1.763815
274 264 A. Tolliver 6.091265 0.288686 1.75846
275 277 J. Crowder 5.5482 0.308233 1.71014
276 298 E. Moore 5.605495 0.304646 1.707694
277 310 J. Crawford 5.31807 0.320366 1.703727
278 309 D. Fisher 5.25571 0.322436 1.694631
279 290 D. Motiejunas 4.83127 0.350092 1.691389
280 257 A. Ajinca 4.954325 0.337029 1.669751
281 252 A. Kirilenko 5.5278 0.300424 1.660683
282 288 M. Raduljica 4.262905 0.384045 1.637149
283 254 H. Thompson 5.85195 0.277344 1.623001
284 326 A. Harrington 5.45705 0.294976 1.609697
285 227 O. Asik 5.2882 0.30392 1.607187
286 281 S. Battier 5.76652 0.27591 1.591041
287 320 C. McCollum 4.917265 0.323504 1.590756
288 316 A. Rivers 5.00964 0.315072 1.578396
289 243 T. Hansbrough 5.083515 0.30997 1.575739
290 302 T. Outlaw 4.87604 0.322917 1.574554
291 317 M. World Peace 4.62175 0.339835 1.57063
292 297 K. Seraphin 4.27905 0.365731 1.56498
293 241 N. Collison 5.22975 0.298843 1.562873
294 282 R. Sacre 4.780665 0.323018 1.54424
295 314 M. Harris 4.155105 0.370992 1.541509
296 294 K. Caldwell-Pope 5.963525 0.258161 1.539551
297 296 T. Robinson 4.12819 0.371909 1.535311
298 328 Q. Acy 3.6446 0.414159 1.509444
299 268 C. Zeller 5.00249 0.29955 1.498497
300 306 R. Lewis 5.01159 0.298309 1.495002
301 291 B. McLemore 5.857395 0.252474 1.478839
302 289 D. Arthur 5.037435 0.291181 1.466806
303 267 T. Prince 6.1521 0.230416 1.417541
304 330 D. Wright 4.2346 0.328264 1.390065
305 318 E. Clark 4.602475 0.296934 1.366631
306 275 D. Dedmon 4.29213 0.313294 1.344699
307 307 Q. Pondexter 4.91316 0.272953 1.341063
308 364 C. Villanueva 3.45195 0.38786 1.338872
309 394 J. Jones 2.79961 0.47451 1.328443
310 383 C. Copeland 2.71992 0.4857 1.321065
311 250 G. Stiemsma 4.76447 0.272255 1.297153
312 325 M. Dellavedova 4.39272 0.294813 1.295033
313 295 V. Faverani 4.13369 0.313158 1.294499
314 301 C. Landry 3.96596 0.317277 1.258307
315 321 C. Douglas-Roberts 4.50849 0.274908 1.23942
316 324 J. Harrellson 3.49923 0.353458 1.236829
317 273 J. McGee 4.43196 0.27874 1.235363
318 313 D. Orton 3.728135 0.327029 1.21921
319 334 I. Smith 4.00898 0.301427 1.208415
320 304 J. Adrien 3.524 0.342136 1.205687
321 337 M. Bonner 3.7494 0.320462 1.201538
322 286 J. Ayres 4.0242 0.293737 1.182057
323 323 T. Snell 4.66918 0.252388 1.178446
324 269 S. Adams 4.11394 0.28569 1.175313
325 327 Q. Miller 3.71685 0.314987 1.170761
326 348 A. Shved 3.71121 0.314509 1.16721
327 333 C. Budinger 4.60282 0.25152 1.157702
328 341 W. Green 4.19338 0.27588 1.156871
329 340 C. Singleton 3.488465 0.326025 1.137326
330 338 P. Jones 3.70262 0.303493 1.123721
331 284 J. Freeland 3.90995 0.28333 1.107805
332 319 M. Leonard 3.1374 0.344769 1.081679
333 322 J. Taylor 5.09664 0.210605 1.073378
334 293 C. Hayes 3.73816 0.283194 1.058624
335 336 D. Garrett 3.9436 0.268272 1.057958
336 369 D. Buycks 3.15966 0.332596 1.05089
337 345 J. Terry 4.13719 0.253815 1.050082
338 332 G. Smith 3.078375 0.338283 1.041362
339 335 J. Withey 3.039205 0.341484 1.037839
340 398 R. Butler 2.3734 0.431527 1.024187
341 371 S. Novak 3.33591 0.306047 1.020945
342 401 W. Barton 2.18713 0.465347 1.017774
343 362 B. Gordon 3.80438 0.264193 1.005091
344 262 K. Perkins 4.48114 0.224057 1.004031
345 352 A. Jamison 3.36515 0.297801 1.002145
346 342 G. Oden 2.75028 0.3526 0.969749
347 377 W. Ellington 2.89794 0.333097 0.965294
348 299 J. Vesely 3.66734 0.258263 0.94714
349 361 J. Jerebko 2.76886 0.337666 0.934949
350 357 R. Price 3.02014 0.308178 0.930739
351 349 R. Hummel 3.14438 0.293867 0.92403
352 414 R. Covington 1.83804 0.496768 0.913079
353 308 R. Gobert 3.281955 0.269013 0.882888
354 339 A. Baynes 2.84778 0.309541 0.881506
355 353 D. Miller 3.322985 0.263729 0.876367
356 384 T. Murry 2.57034 0.338203 0.869296
357 278 E. Udoh 4.22272 0.204986 0.8656
358 379 C. Martin 2.610625 0.330459 0.862704
359 367 J. Nunnaly 3.416325 0.2512 0.858182
360 360 P. Pressey 3.39727 0.247976 0.842441
361 366 S. Larkin 3.13811 0.265942 0.834554
362 412 A. Crabbe 2.058885 0.403703 0.831178
363 305 I. Mahinmi 3.667875 0.226412 0.830451
364 376 L. Brown 2.68232 0.308313 0.826993
365 354 E. Williams 3.51318 0.234212 0.822829
366 355 C. Billups 3.64288 0.22349 0.814146
367 393 I. Clark 2.532875 0.320617 0.812083
368 368 D. Schroder 3.2423 0.247504 0.802482
369 375 R. Mason Jr 2.87423 0.276368 0.794346
370 347 H. Sims 2.56358 0.305188 0.782374
371 331 J. Maxiell 3.39296 0.227715 0.772629
372 365 R. Hollins 2.52534 0.293644 0.741551
373 343 A. Gee 3.46709 0.212705 0.737467
374 380 C. Aldrich 1.78158 0.395907 0.705339
375 408 T. Douglas 1.99147 0.349381 0.695781
376 311 R. Evans 3.00804 0.226168 0.680324
377 400 D. Christmas 2.07209 0.313953 0.650539
378 410 D. Sloan 1.871245 0.346527 0.648437
379 363 A. Roberson 2.186645 0.291553 0.637522
380 351 A. Bennett 2.85665 0.221446 0.632593
381 390 K. Bogans 2.4 0.26087 0.626087
382 404 B. Mullens 1.96552 0.317019 0.623108
383 381 O. Jeffers 2.281 0.271548 0.6194
384 359 L. Fields 2.70812 0.227573 0.616295
385 372 G. Temple 2.664195 0.229672 0.611891
386 386 G. Rice Jr 2.45877 0.248361 0.610662
387 395 G. Mekel 2.40522 0.250544 0.602613
388 378 J. Lucas III 3.09283 0.193302 0.59785
389 373 G. Dieng 1.90905 0.312959 0.597454
390 399 T. Taylor 2.6328 0.225026 0.592448
391 374 J. Jenkins 2.61204 0.215871 0.563864
392 403 D. Lamb 2.37644 0.232984 0.553673
393 346 A. Moultrie 2.82778 0.193684 0.547695
394 350 U. Haslem 2.62179 0.208079 0.545538
395 432 M. Brooks 1.080115 0.490961 0.530295
396 435 R. Ledo 1.252275 0.417425 0.522731
397 344 L. Amoundson 2.265 0.222059 0.502963
398 417 K. Bazemore 1.72949 0.288248 0.498523
399 370 B. Davies 2.39438 0.206412 0.494229
400 391 B. Rush 2.455 0.199593 0.490002
401 388 A. Goodwin 2.26484 0.215699 0.488524
402 405 O. Johnson 2.07519 0.230577 0.47849
403 402 E. Maynor 2.09112 0.224852 0.470192
404 397 B. James 1.56017 0.300033 0.468102
405 407 R. Bullock 1.97046 0.234579 0.462228
406 356 A. Len 2.080845 0.221366 0.460629
407 387 S. Hill 1.981725 0.225196 0.446277
408 389 A. Gray 1.45232 0.290464 0.421847
409 431 A. Price 1.226 0.331351 0.406237
410 411 J. Stone 1.55522 0.259203 0.403118
411 416 T. Mitchell 1.14684 0.337306 0.386836
412 385 A. Onuaku 1.79625 0.211324 0.37959
413 422 S. Vujacic 1.4 0.269231 0.376923
414 382 N. Mohammed 1.66822 0.219503 0.366179
415 392 J. Tinsley 2.245 0.162681 0.365219
416 396 H. Armstrong 1.20366 0.300915 0.362199
417 428 S. Muhammad 1.27193 0.276507 0.351697
418 415 L. Datome 1.48848 0.21264 0.31651
419 421 S. Karasev 1.553015 0.19173 0.29776
420 430 R. McCallum 1.09944 0.249873 0.27472
421 406 A. Biedrins 1.4188 0.19173 0.272026
422 424 M. James 1.33289 0.190413 0.253799
423 409 H. Thabeet 1.16625 0.212045 0.247298
424 358 M. Wayns 3.125 0.664894 2.077793
425 418 J. Franklin 1.30763 0.165523 0.216443
426 423 M. Teague 1.58571 0.124859 0.19799
427 413 S. Jones 1.197275 0.15549 0.186165
428 429 S. Kravtsov 0.734265 0.244755 0.179715
429 419 O. Porter 1.23911 0.139226 0.172516
430 443 I. Canaan 0.82 0.210256 0.17241
431 436 D. Augustin 1.17696 0.143532 0.168931
432 426 J. Childress 0.97 0.161667 0.156817
433 439 J. Anthony 0.662925 0.213847 0.141764
434 420 H. Ndiaye 0.85451 0.161228 0.137771
435 442 C. Felix 0.739375 0.171948 0.127134
436 438 R. Gomes 0.93 0.134783 0.125348
437 441 A. Daye 0.69904 0.170498 0.119185
438 427 S. Brown 1.05952 0.110367 0.116936
439 434 S. Jackson 1.161255 0.097584 0.11332
440 425 E. Watson 0.714 0.119 0.084966
441 433 R. Brewer 0.723 0.104783 0.075758
442 446 V. Blue 0.5935 0.121122 0.071886
443 440 L. Thomas 0.75902 0.09036 0.068585
444 437 E. Harris 0.625 0.109649 0.068531
445 444 N. Nedovic 0.498645 0.077913 0.038851
446 449 J. Cunningham 0.3 0.068182 0.020455
447 448 E. Murphy 0.13695 0.052673 0.007214
448 447 O. Kuzmic 0.143435 0.039843 0.005715
449 445 P. Siva 0.1225 0.021121 0.002587
450 451 V. Claver 0.08 0.028571 0.002286
451 450 S. Curry 0 0 0
452 452 C. Smith 0 0 0
453 454 H. Turkoglu 0 0 0
454 453 T. Shengelia -0.175 -0.07292 -0.01276
455 455 R. Ivey -0.325 -0.13542 -0.04401
456 456 M. Thomas -0.825 -0.13525 -0.11158
457 457 J. Southerland -1.95 -0.69643 -1.35804

Hawes in top 50 on these two metrics. Bottom 50 on JE's RAPM.

Blake the only other guy in top 100 on MM traded at deadline. He was estimated at -0.6 on RAPM.

Big difference in appearance of value in the IND-Philly trade going by boxscore stats or RAPM. Turner and Allen both moderately negative on RAPM, Granger strongly positive and he was been at least moderately positive in past years.

Crow wrote:Hawes in top 50 on these two metrics. Bottom 50 on JE's RAPM.

Blake the only other guy in top 100 on MM traded at deadline. He was estimated at -0.6 on RAPM.

Big difference in appearance of value in the IND-Philly trade going by boxscore stats or RAPM. Turner and Allen both moderately negative on RAPM, Granger strongly positive and he was been at least moderately positive in past years.

Paul George at 16 raises an eyebrow.

I would assume MM per minute would be quite close to PER rankings.

I moved to taking my ratings to the next step of WAR - because it seemed to me that the WAR results (and WAR/48) weeded out the "empty" stat guys a bit, and boosted the guys that were maybe helping their team to better results beyond the stats (RAPM?). I feel it's bridging the differences a little more between linear weights metrics and others. Plus, WAR will make comparing multiple seasons between players SO MUCH easier - especially adding in playoffs and win multipliers in the playoffs.

For comparison, my HnR ranking has Paul George 8th, but 3rd in WAR (5th WAR/48). Aldridge 14th HnR, 5th WAR (9th WAR/48).

On the other side, HnR has Cousins 10th, but he's 28th in WAR (24th in WAR/48). Love 3rd HnR, 6th in WAR & WAR/48.

The guys you mention: Hawes 93rd HnR, 74th WAR, 113 WAR/48

Blake 190th HnR, 194th WAR, 190 WAR/48

Turner 216th HnR, 170th WAR, 220th WAR/48

LaVoy Allen 234th HnR, 234th WAR, 236th WAR/48

Granger 249th HnR, 213th WAR, 173rd WAR/48

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Dan,

I think having Paul George in your top five, ahead of Kevin Love, should raise an eyebrow! LOL.

Dick

I think having Paul George in your top five, ahead of Kevin Love, should raise an eyebrow! LOL.

paul george is a key reason, perhaps the key reason, why the pacers are - by far - the league's best defensive team, along with hibbert, and why they have the league's 2nd best W-L record. he leads the team in - by far - scoring, is an excellent defensive rebounder for a SF, an excellent man defender, and force turnovers at a solid rate. he generates wins at the 3rd best rate among SFs behind kevin durant and lebron james, and both durant and james as PFs generate wins at rates similar to kevin love...

i can easily see someone having paul george rated among the top 5 players in the league, and above kevin love, especially when you properly account for defense...

Paul George is a great player. But I wouldn't take him ahead of Love, Carmelo, Blake Griffin, or Dirk.

You could make a case for George ahead of Cousins, Westbrook, Hardin, or Alridge, without a debate from me.

DickMays wrote:Paul George is a great player. But I wouldn't take him ahead of Love, Carmelo, Blake Griffin, or Dirk.

You could make a case for George ahead of Cousins, Westbrook, Hardin, or Alridge, without a debate from me.

I love ya Mr. Mays, you are kinda one of the unknown pseudo pioneers of linear weights (at least where you actually published results online - while we ALL here just dabbled in it with our TI & HP calculators and notebooks in junior high and high school) - especially since you were the first I knew online who actually rated & ranked college players. I REALLY appreciated someone at the time TRYING to tackle such a tricky endeavor.

But, as you and all of us know, players are more than the sum of their stats. I believe I've gotten it (my ratings) to about as good as I can get based solely on box score stats of players and teams. I am so focused for now on these "basic" box score stats (despite a very recent onslaught of new measurables) because of my love of the history of the game and my desire to better quantify historical player impact in college and the pros, AND my desire to best learn what this history can tell us (projecting NBA careers based on previous dissected NBA and college ratings). My base ratings (HnR & HnI) do adjust for playing time in relation team quality and such - and obviously SoS in college - HnR penalizes guys for missing games (don't help team when you don't play), HnI doesn't (how impactful are you WHEN you're on the court). My base ratings will have results a little closer to yours and, say, PER. My HnI rankings actually have Love (well ahead), and Blake & Carmelo (barely) ahead of George, with Dirk 2 spots behind George . I think those are good rankings, especially in a linear weights sense, and they seem to be the type of rankings your opinions of players jives with for the most part. They are also how I do the college ratings - since I really have zero idea how to best incorporate WAR at the college level (what is "replacement" with such an EXTREME difference in talent from top to bottom).

BUT, I felt my NBA WAR took that final step closer to boosting (or bumping down) the guys who are probably doing a bit more (or less) than even the "normal" rating results (HnR & HnI) tell us. I personally subjectively think Paul George is probably somewhere like the 5th best player this season (behind Durant/James/Paul/Love) or 6th best (adding Curry, who I'm inclined not to because of his D). WAR has him 3rd (playing big minutes as easily best player on a team that wins a bunch) - WAR/48 5th (Paul & Curry w/ their lesser minutes jump him - if Minnesota would win anywhere near their projected W% based on point differentials - Love would jump him also). That seems right to me. I'm guessing also, in general, it would be a little closer to a blend of statistical +/- and RAPM - without having/using the +/- info.

Plus, WAR, in a historical sense, will rank guys like Bill Russell and Bob Cousey MUCH higher than any linear weights ratings. Russell may not be Kareem/Wilt status, but a bit closer than any other metrics I know of would probably have him (unless there's a metric out there that ONLY considers minutes played in relation to team wins and championships - then you'd have a bunch of Celtics and a couple Bulls at the top). Cousey might not be close Magic/Stockton/etc, but he won't be immensely far off as he would by about any metric. That seems closer to "right" I think.

But, hey, NONE of us will ever agree on some true rankings of players, especially after about two or three players in (after LeBron/Durant/Paul). We just hope our results more often than not seem to make sense with what we (or, maybe the general public/coaches/gms) "see".

I'm really glad you post on this board Dick, I like the general box score metrics debates (everyone is so into prior informed RAPM and such, which I have never felt "comfortable" with in terms of results and using multiple seasons) - I suggest you check Mike G's posts if you haven't been - his stuff will have a little similar results to yours, and he's pretty proficient about getting the stuff posted here. Plus, he tries to tie all the historical rankings the best he can - I'm looking forward to seeing how my historical player rankings compare to his when I finally actually do mine - since I love that stuff.

Hey RAPM guys - don't take it as a diss btw what I just posted - but since there isn't quality +/- data pre 2000s in the NBA and pre 2010s in college (and even that raw data is often very flawed, missing games, etc) - it just isn't my thing. If I was working for some team or something like some of you have or aspire to do I'd probably be delving deep into it also - obviously it's maybe an important part of the analytics "puzzle" on players if done well. But, for what I'm trying to do at the moment, I don't have time for it, that's all.

bchaikin wrote:I think having Paul George in your top five, ahead of Kevin Love, should raise an eyebrow! LOL.

paul george is a key reason, perhaps the key reason, why the pacers are - by far - the league's best defensive team, along with hibbert, and why they have the league's 2nd best W-L record. he leads the team in - by far - scoring, is an excellent defensive rebounder for a SF, an excellent man defender, and force turnovers at a solid rate. he generates wins at the 3rd best rate among SFs behind kevin durant and lebron james, and both durant and james as PFs generate wins at rates similar to kevin love...

i can easily see someone having paul george rated among the top 5 players in the league, and above kevin love, especially when you properly account for defense...

I'm trying - when my WAR/48 results differ quite a bit from general linear metrics results (PER?) - I usually assume it's maybe individual defense. Guys like George/Aldridge/Howard/Duncan/Ibaka rank higher (or way higher) in WAR/48 than PER would have them - while others like Cousins & Thomas/Love/Carmelo/Irving/Gay rank lower than PER would suggest. It seems USUALLY the results end up being a group of guys that people think of as good/great defenders when WAR/48 loves them more, and a group of guys that people think of as maybe mediocre defenders when PER loves them more.

And, since I have people ask (DeanO specifically has questioned me when it came to my college ratings) - my WAR differs from WS mainly because my stuff doesn't put as much assumption in thinking a high blk/stl/Dreb rate equates to great defense. It does some, but not nearly as much. For example, right now Deandre Jordan is 9th in WS, my WAR has him 31st. WS/48 has Pekovic 16th, WAR/48 has him 55th. So, yes, while a similar approach, my results can differ quite a bit from WS - and in my opinion usually for the better, or I wouldn't bother with doing the work. My results don't tend to be quite as defensive rebounding/shot blocking big man loving as WS - ESPECIALLY if that player plays for an underperforming team - there's more of a general position "balance" without ANY subjective position "adjustments". However, my WAR likes Duncan this season quite a bit more than WS, and a lot more than PER - go figure.

Dan,

Thanks for the kind words. I guess I am one of the old guys now, lol; and an obscure, relatively unknown pioneer.
Without question, the box score stats do not reflect all of the player's contributions. And it is extra hard to evaluate NBA players contributions across varying competition and with playing along side various teammates. So I am open to the idea that the +/- and other ways of complimenting the box stats, could result in a better player rating system. But I am not convinced that such additions have proven their worth. Personally, I think playing along side Hibbert has a lot to do with the Pacers great defense.

PER has Paul George listed at 24, far too low in my subjective opinion. My rating system has him at 16 but I do believe the box stats are more focused on offensive contributions, and believe there may be a more valid system that could have Paul George in the top ten, but I am skeptical of any rating system putting him in the top five. Like most people, I put more weight on my subjective opinions that I do on any mathematical rating system, and take math analysis seriously only if it seems to collaborate what I feel to be true instinctively.

Sounds like some of your work could be a real improvement. What I like about the Magic Metric, is that it is dead simple to compute, and can be used to rank players on the same team fairly objectively. It can be adjusted for different levels of play, high school, junior high, and girls teams.
And it isn't all that bad when used without any other information to rate NBA players.

The point I make in the videos that I posted, was that I attributed our use of this player rating system for our increased wins in league play for many years. That was when I was really gung-ho on the player rating system. Over time, I can to believe that it was the rotation system that we were using, that was accounting for the marked improvement in play. The various ratings systems are all close enough that there is not much difference in their results for determining the strongest players on a team. On the Heat, it is Lebron > Wade > Bosh > others, no matter what rating system you use.

Perhaps there are other people writing papers on how to substitute players for maximizing contribution, but I admit to not keeping up with this stuff for the past 15 years. I gave it a good run back in the day, but perhaps I was a bit before my time.

Dick

DickMays wrote: PER has Paul George listed at 24, far too low in my subjective opinion. My rating system has him at 16 but I do believe the box stats are more focused on offensive contributions, and believe there may be a more valid system that could have Paul George in the top ten, but I am skeptical of any rating system putting him in the top five.

Paul George currently ranks #20 with a PER of 21.0 -- I wasn't sure if you were saying a PER of 24 was too low, so I looked it up.
He's #10 in Win Shares per48 (.206) and 7th in Win Shares (irrespective of games teams have played).
I've got him #14 per minute (1.92 eWins per484), but very close to the top 10.
In eW projected to the full season, he's 8th.

My problem with Win Shares is not just confined to the defensive assumptions mentioned by Dan. Horace Grant regularly out-ranked Scottie Pippen, largely because he owned a higher shooting%. Yet consensus agrees, those Bulls were Jordan > Pippen > Grant (or whomever).

The defensive contribution of scorers can be estimated/included simply by scaling their scoring to that of their opponents' totals. Paul George's 22.7 ppg with a team that allows 91 ppg is worth more than Aldridge's 23.9 while the Blazers surrender 104 ppg.

While we're discussing George -- has anyone else noticed how his shooting has fallen off? Through Dec. 28 (29 games) his TS% was sitting at .606 for the year -- over the next 23 games, he shot .508 -- and he's had a couple of good games since.
Last year, he also tailed off at the end.

I'd rank him a marginal Top Ten -- 2nd or 3rd team all-NBA.

Mike G wrote: My problem with Win Shares is not just confined to the defensive assumptions mentioned by Dan. Horace Grant regularly out-ranked Scottie Pippen, largely because he owned a higher shooting%. Yet consensus agrees, those Bulls were Jordan > Pippen > Grant (or whomever).

The defensive contribution of scorers can be estimated/included simply by scaling their scoring to that of their opponents' totals. Paul George's 22.7 ppg with a team that allows 91 ppg is worth more than Aldridge's 23.9 while the Blazers surrender 104 ppg.

I agree with you about WS, it loves high shooting efficiency (even w/ lowerish usage) AND defensive #'s (reb/blk/st) - does anyone really think DeAndre Jordan is a top 10 NBA player, especially using more "conventional" metrics? I know RAPM has Patrick Beverley 5th, but there's no sense in debating RAPM- there are always crazy outliers. Linear weights based metrics shouldn't ever have Dennis Rodman as better than Michael Jordan multiple seasons (WP), and less egregiously but still troublesome Grant over Pippen (WS).

I find it interesting that it seems only you and I don't go through the whole chore of trying to best estimate pace when doing our ratings. Defensive points against pretty much ties both team pace & defense together, two factor that are important when trying to approach player ratings. If a team gives up very few points a game - it's because of great defense &/or slow pace - EITHER factor means we need to understand that each and every player's "stats" at face value will look repressed compared to what is closer to their true value. Plus, it's just simpler to boot not estimating pace.

I have seen a team fail to inbound the ball, resulting in a turnover. The other team then throws away the inbounds pass. The first team calls timeout. Then they bungle the inbounds play. Again. Nothing has happened at all for several minutes. Yet we've seen several possessions register within zero seconds. It's a "fast pace". Infinitely fast, in fact.

In another thread, it was succinctly said, "Possessions per game * points per possession = Pts/G" : Yes, indeedy.
I don't really care who counts what as a possession. A team may have more (offensive) possessions than their opponent. The Jordan Bulls were particularly good at this. They might have won some games with fewer Pts/Poss than their opponent.

Mike G wrote: They might have won some games with fewer Pts/Poss than their opponent.

Some team the other day in the NBA lost with a positive PPP (obviously their opponent won with a negative PPP).

It became a pretty big debate on Twitter, seemingly causing some less analytical people (like JA Adande) using the instance as a reason to decry why "we" (the more analytical minded) try to over analyze everything. It was interesting or annoying - however you want to look at it.

Mike G wrote:

DickMays wrote: PER has Paul George listed at 24, far too low in my subjective opinion. My rating system has him at 16 but I do believe the box stats are more focused on offensive contributions, and believe there may be a more valid system that could have Paul George in the top ten, but I am skeptical of any rating system putting him in the top five.

Paul George currently ranks #20 with a PER of 21.0 -- I wasn't sure if you were saying a PER of 24 was too low, so I looked it up.
He's #10 in Win Shares per48 (.206) and 7th in Win Shares (irrespective of games teams have played).
I've got him #14 per minute (1.92 eWins per484), but very close to the top 10.
In eW projected to the full season, he's 8th.

My problem with Win Shares is not just confined to the defensive assumptions mentioned by Dan. Horace Grant regularly out-ranked Scottie Pippen, largely because he owned a higher shooting%. Yet consensus agrees, those Bulls were Jordan > Pippen > Grant (or whomever).

The defensive contribution of scorers can be estimated/included simply by scaling their scoring to that of their opponents' totals. Paul George's 22.7 ppg with a team that allows 91 ppg is worth more than Aldridge's 23.9 while the Blazers surrender 104 ppg.

While we're discussing George -- has anyone else noticed how his shooting has fallen off? Through Dec. 28 (29 games) his TS% was sitting at .606 for the year -- over the next 23 games, he shot .508 -- and he's had a couple of good games since.
Last year, he also tailed off at the end.

I'd rank him a marginal Top Ten -- 2nd or 3rd team all-NBA.

This is a good post.

About George's struggles, I've noticed it. I have a bet of sort about where he falls in a certain metric at the end of the year, and he's starting to fade now. (Things are looking good for me now ) I am attributing this mainly to the Pacers' exhausting habit of mega minutes, even in blowouts, and competing every game at a ridiculous level. That could just be narrative, but it certainly fits. The Pacers have been a much different team the past month than they were to start the year.

Pacers still have the league's best W%, and according to http://www.basketball-reference.com/fri ... f_prob.cgi
they're expected to end up with the best record.
Their odds of winning it all -- 33% -- is greater than that of any other 2 teams combined.

B-R.com's estimates are based on the whole season to date. The Pacers might actually be stronger with recent trades; but IF they reach the Finals, they're given a .594 chance to beat the entrant from the West.