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Analyst movement

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:15 am
by Crow
I can think of about 25-30 moves in last year (hires, departures, shifts to another teams or organizations). The market is bigger now. In phase one, there seemed like less movement, to my knowledge. I am currently wondering about other possible movement that I don't know about. I assume much of it will eventually come out.

Is there now significant salary and work condition competitions / negotiations? My impression was that things were pretty one-sided in early stages.

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:34 pm
by Crow
Came across info about a few more departures. Altogether I can think of about a dozen departures that weren't followed by an immediate publicly identified role with another team. To date, I am not aware of any later returns to the inside. There probably will be such cases. Maybe soon. A few open director positions.

Longest tenured analysts or analytic higher ups? I haven't checked the dates closely and comprehensively but think the count of guys with same team for 5 plus years (or fairly soon to be so) are not much more than 10 and half in Houston and Boston and one case or close in San Antonio & Dallas and past cases in Dallas, maybe OKC and Cleveland. (All but Houston at least making finals. But not asserting casualty.) The average tenure on current team of new era analysts is probably under 3 years and maybe closer to 2. In 5-10 years will avg. tenure be above 5 years or not more than today? Obviously longevity can aide impact.

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:04 pm
by xkonk
From looking into the Charlotte Hornets' analyst opening, I know that Jason Rosenfeld (e.g., http://georgetownsportsanalysis.wordpre ... e-bobcats/), is no longer with the team, but I don't know what he's doing now. I also don't know how long he was there.

Are you able to share any of the departures info? Do we know why people are leaving?

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:27 pm
by Crow
I spoke about the departures briefly as a group but don't feel it appropriate to call them out one by one. Many represent moves to the public sector and could just be personal preference. I'd guess that there is some level of dissatisfaction one or both ways in at least some cases but it is just a guess because that is often associated with personnel movement in general.

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:00 pm
by Crow
Do the non-disclosure agreements tend to cover everything forever or might we see a detailed insiders account of how statistically based analytics gets done and used and / or not in 5 or 10 years? Will any risk publishing something anonymously and scrubbed / altered to reduce direct identification and possible lawsuit?

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:37 pm
by Crow
Maybe a book of "fiction" would be the way to go.

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:29 pm
by Crow
More movement. Looks like at least one team might be bidding up to acquire experienced analytic talent.

Others going for folks 1-3 years out of college.

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:55 pm
by Crow

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:36 pm
by schtevie
I remember reading this: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... k-ranadive

Best of luck to Dean. Congrats!

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:00 pm
by Crow
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/09/2 ... tics-push/

"Longtime analytics guru Roland Beech was granted a promotion and carte blanche to hire as needed."


In fact, the one area in which Cuban added more personnel than the Mavs’ 15-man roster was the analytics department, a division that multiplied so swiftly following the first-round loss to the Spurs that Cuban says he’s lost count.

“I don’t even know,” Cuban said. “We have all these interns and remote, virtual people. It could be 20 for all I know.”


I wondered if someone would try the mass quantity tactic.

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:30 am
by Crow
Philly and San Antonio advertising / beefing up
http://nbateamjobs.teamworkonline.com/t ... supcat=170

Re: Analyst movement

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:13 am
by mtamada
schtevie wrote:I remember reading this: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... k-ranadive

Best of luck to Dean. Congrats!

That's a major analyst move all right. I wonder if he'll move back to Calif; he seems more like a West Coast kind of guy.