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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:40 am 
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Progressive best Total Rebound % by a guard (not G-F) since 1971:
Code:
TRb%   guard          year   tm
8.7   Don Chaney      1971   Bos
8.9   Walt Frazier    1973   NYK
9.4   Butch Beard     1976 Cle-NY
11.8  Sidney Moncrief 1980   Mil
12.5  Lafayette Lever 1987   Den
13.6  Lever           1990   Den
17.1  Westbrook       2017   OKC


http://bkref.com/tiny/KhY84
In 1976, Frazier and Beard were traded for one another
In 1990, Darrell Walker beat Lever's 1987 mark but not his concurrent rate.

This season, Westbrook and Dejounte Murray (SAS) are both at 14.9 -- the two best rebounding guards known.
Those two plus Lonzo Ball, Denzel Valentine, Chris Paul, Terry Rozier, and Kyle Lowry make 7 current guards who are stronger rebounders than any in the 1970's.

Magic Johnson topped out at 13.7 in 1982, but he was considered G-F.
Ben Simmons is also classed as G-F, though b-r.com says he has played every minute at guard. At 12.4, he's another who would have set the record, before Fat Lever.


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:04 pm 
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interesting, from last season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKolm75h8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqZgLJtErOQ


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:34 am 
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Those links bring us to videos of a few games in which Westbrook appears to grab rebounds in front of teammates. Sometimes he's just quicker to the ball, and sometimes, they just let him get it.
It's commonly accepted that on a certain fraction of defensive rebounds, one or another teammate "could have" gotten it. Rodman put a dent in Laimbeer's rebounds, etc. What part of a player's rebounds are typically "granted" by his teammates? Would Andre Roberson's rebounds look similarly "inflated"?

Dejounte Murray is the premier O-Rebounder among guards. How does he fare against the Thunder?
Here are the top O-Rebounding G and G-F this year (>60 ORb on the year); their OReb/36 minute rates; their minutes and OReb vs OKC; and the number of OReb they normally expect to get in those minutes.
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vs OKC      tm  OR/36  Min  ORb  exp
B Simmons  Phl   1.94   91   2   4.9
Dj Murray  SAS   2.30   81   3   5.2
Nwaba      Chi   1.90   16   0    .8
J Murray   Den   1.16   78   3   2.5
Richardson Mia    .96   32   1    .9
E Payton  OrPhx  1.27  100   2   3.5
Lowry      Tor   1.01   57   3   1.6
Barton     Den    .91   92   1   2.3
J Simmons  Orl   1.08   69   2   2.1
. totals                    17  23.8

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... plits/2018
It's a smallish sample, but these guys have totaled just 70% of their normal OReb in minutes vs OKC.
Lowry has an extra OReb, and that's it on the plus side.
OKC allows a very avg number of OReb per game.


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:03 am 
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Those links bring us to videos of a few games in which Westbrook appears to grab rebounds in front of teammates. Sometimes he's just quicker to the ball, and sometimes, they just let him get it.

that'd be alot of times...

in the history of the nba (since 1973-74 when rebounds have been differentiated into off and def rebs) a player has grabbed 300+ off rebs in a season 149 times. of those 149 times, not once did the player grab fewer def rebs than off rebs - until now. steven adams, who now has 353 off rebs, has grabbed just 268 def rebs, 80 less def rebs than any other player that grabbed 300+ off rebs, and he is grabbing def rebs on a per minute basis at a rate of 35% less than he did just a few years ago...

i'd say adams, who has westbrook on the floor with him for 91% of his minutes, does this an awful lot - letting westbrook grab any def rebs near adams...


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:09 pm 
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bchaikin wrote:
.. steven adams, who now has 353 off rebs, has grabbed just 268 def rebs ...

That is pretty amazing. The numbers are now 358/276, a ratio of 1.297 O/D
Some other offensive rebounding specialists in history:
Code:
O/R > 1.3    yr   tm   ORb  DRb
Mike McGee   84  LAL   117   76
McGee        85  LAL    97   68
Harold Ellis 94  LAC    94   59
Fr Williams  81  SDC    75   54
Ryan Bowen   00  Den    75   39

O/R > 1.2    yr   tm   ORb  DRb
Steven Adams 18  OKC   358  276
Don Chaney   74  Bos   210  168
Vi Johnson   84  Det   130  107
Ja Jeffries  09  NYK   128  103
Don Collins  83  Was   116   94

O/R > 1.1    yr   tm   ORb  DRb
Steven Adams 18  OKC   358  276
George Lynch 94  LAL   220  190
Don Chaney   74  Bos   210  168
Vi Johnson   81  Sea   193  173
De Johnson   77  Sea   161  141

O/R > 1.0    yr   tm   ORb  DRb
Ja Williams  98  NJN   443  440
Steven Adams 18  OKC   358  276
Chris Morris 93  NJN   227  227
Ru Patterson 00  Sea   218  216
George Lynch 94  LAL   220  190
That's Jayson Williams in his one big year. Just 30 more games, and he was done.
http://bkref.com/tiny/tT9Iw
Adams is as much an anomaly/outlier as Westbrook, you might say. Together they have gotten more D-Reb over the years, according to DReb%:
Code:
year    RW   Adams    T
2014   15.9   17.1   33.0
2015   16.7   19.3   36.0
2016   18.1   16.1   34.2
2017   28.8   15.4   44.2
2018   25.1   13.9   39.0
Enes Kanter's DReb% in NY is 36% higher than last year in OKC.
Durant had career high DReb% upon going to GSW. Ibaka similar ...


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:09 pm 
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This year's league-wide eFG% is .521, an all-time high. Last year's .514 was itself .012 higher than the previous best of 2016.
The 2-year increase of .019 is the largest since 1977-79 (.465 to .485); and before that, it's 1961-63.

The improvement is largely due to shooting more 3's with no dropoff in efficiency. From 2016 to '17, NBA 3fga increased by a record 2.9 per game -- larger than 1980, when the avg went from 0 to 2.8/G **
The 2-year increase 2016-18 is even greater than that from 2015-17 (4.8 vs 4.6)

This also leads to all-time high TS%. In 2 years, 2015-17, it jumped from .534 to .553 -- biggest 2-yr improvement since 1963. This year it's .556.

Pace is now the highest it's been since 1991, at 97.4 poss/G. And league ORtg these last 2 years rank 1-2 all-time (108.8)
Points per game are also highest since '91. The 2-yr increase (+5.6) is largest since 1959-61.

** = not counting short-arc years 95-97


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:40 pm 
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Denver holds opposing FT shooters to a league-low .737 -- which is .011 better than anyone else. How do they do it?
Probably not a simple answer, so I'll ask this: How unusual is it? The league avg is .768, just .004 off the all-time high.
League FT% has stayed above .750 since 2006-07. In the meantime of 11.9 seasons, here are the best (lowest) opponent FT% each year, the league FT%, and the difference:
Code:
year    NBA   Tm   OppFT%  diff
2007   .752   Chi   .730   .022
2008   .755   Den   .730   .025
2009   .771   Hou   .749   .022
2010   .759   Cha   .743   .016
2011   .763   Orl   .743   .020
2012   .752   Mia   .725   .027
2013   .753   Brk   .731   .022
2013   .753   Den   .731   .022
2014   .756   OKC   .727   .029
2014   .756   LAL   .727   .029
2015   .750   Mia   .730   .020
2016   .757   LAL   .731   .026
2017   .772   Was   .751   .021
2018   .768   Den   .737   .031*
So the Nuggets have the largest such disparity from league avg in recent times, or their opponents do.
Also I didn't see any difference as large as .011 between #1 and #2.
Den also appears 3 times in this list. Altitude?

2007-2018 total Opponent FT% best and worst:
Code:
OppFT%
.749   LAL
.752   Cle
.755   OKC
.755   Den
.755   Bos
...
.765   Mil
.765   Det
.765   Phl
.765   NOH
.766   Min

http://bkref.com/tiny/disH1
Looking at 21-26,000 FTA here


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:57 am 
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In a conference finals, starting 1984, progressive record for fewest turnovers, to go with at least 35 points and 10 assists:
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year   35-10     G  Pts  Ast  TO
1984  Bridgeman  5   73   16   5
1985  Natt       5  112   12   4
1987  Sichting   7   43   10   3
1992  Jo Paxson  6   40   11   2
1993  Cartwright 6   36   12   1
2018* Horford    2   35   10   0
In 2015, Horford totaled 44-10-2 in 4 game ECF.
http://bkref.com/tiny/AVggn
Fewest TO with 70-20 is 6 (Ehlo, Ginobili, Kenny Smith)
With 105 and 30, Terry Porter had 8 TO in '92 and 9 in '90.


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 Post subject: Re: Trivia
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In a conference finals, fewest assists to go with at least 100 points, since 1984
Code:
player   yr   Pts   Rb  As
Shaq     06   130   63   2
Amar'e   10   150   36   3
Dwight   10   131   65   4
Marion   06   101   79   4
Shaq     98   127   37   4
J O'Neal 04   104   60   5
Rasheed  05   101   49   5
Bosh     11   116   38   6
Josh H   06   116   50   6
Durant   18   100   12   7
These other scorer/non-passers were rebounders. Durant's just a scorer.
Fewest rebounds to go with 100 points:
Code:
player  yr   Pts   Rb   As
Dumars  87   103    8   32
Irving  17   129   10   27
KJ      90   131   11   68
Reggie  98   122   11   14
B Scott 85   117   11   15
Durant  18   100   12    7
This is just after 3 games. Suppose in 6 games he gets 180 points, maybe more than 24 Reb and 14 Ast.
Code:
player  yr   Pts   Rb   As
Reggie  95   181   21    8
Ray A   01   190   23   38
Iverson 01   183   29   41
Kobe    09   204   35   35


player  yr   Pts   Rb   As
Amar'e  05   185   49    7
Reggie  95   181   21    8
Shaq    02   212   95   11
Shaq    95   191   67   17
Durant  16   210   56   20
Kobe    02   190   44   27
Reggie Miller high on both lists -- Durant's just an elongated version of Reggie now.


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