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Posted: **Sat May 02, 2015 3:20 am**

*OFFICIAL LIST IN MY 3RD POST
*based linear weights (AWS, VORP, my Drtg, and win conversion)
*adjusted for pace and "league quality"
*playoff stats included
*TOV, some pre-'73 values estimated
*Values converted into win shares (ie player value shares), minimum of 19 career Player Value Shares

CAREER PLAYER VALUE SHARES LIST

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1	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*	319.13
2	Wilt Chamberlain*	275.36
3	Karl Malone*		275.21
4	Michael Jordan*		251.67
5	Tim Duncan		245.14
6	Hakeem Olajuwon*	237.20
7	Kevin Garnett		232.56
8	Shaquille O'Neal	232.02
9	John Stockton*		230.17
10	Julius Erving*		225.36
11	Bill Russell*		220.70
12	Moses Malone*		219.45
13	Kobe Bryant		216.85
14	LeBron James		216.48
15	Charles Barkley*	213.21
16	Magic Johnson*		206.65
17	Artis Gilmore*		200.45
18	Dirk Nowitzki		199.87
19	Jason Kidd		199.05
20	Elvin Hayes*		194.57
21	Robert Parish*		193.15
22	Larry Bird*		193.05
23	David Robinson*		190.72
24	Oscar Robertson*	188.69
25	Clyde Drexler*		179.55
26	Dan Issel*		177.21
27	Gary Payton*		176.98
28	Paul Pierce		175.94
29	Scottie Pippen*		174.70
30	Reggie Miller*		174.58
31	Patrick Ewing*		172.98
32	Ray Allen		167.95
33	Walt Bellamy*		161.24
34	Shawn Marion		159.35
35	Dominique Wilkins*	155.41
36	Jerry West*		154.57
37	Elgin Baylor*		154.15
38	Bob Pettit*		153.93
39	Steve Nash		151.53
40	Alex English*		149.04
41	Pau Gasol		148.75
42	John Havlicek*		147.63
43	Vince Carter		143.34
44	Horace Grant		142.22
45	Eddie Johnson		141.57
46	Buck Williams		141.39
47	Wes Unseld*		140.58
48	Dwyane Wade		140.00
49	Bob Lanier*		139.32
50	Adrian Dantley*		137.27
51	Allen Iverson		135.76
52	Kevin McHale*		135.65
53	George Gervin*		135.63
54	Jerry Lucas*		134.40
55	Nate Thurmond*		133.52
56	Jack Sikma		133.15
57	Isiah Thomas*		132.86
58	Maurice Cheeks		131.56
59	Mark Jackson		131.50
60	Terry Porter		131.50
61	Jeff Hornacek		131.44
62	Larry Nance		131.31
63	Jason Terry		130.01
64	Dwight Howard		129.54
65	Rick Barry*		129.34
66	Elton Brand		126.73
67	Dikembe Mutombo		126.36
68	Dolph Schayes*		125.58
69	Otis Thorpe		123.63
70	Charles Oakley		123.00
71	Vlade Divac		122.42
72	Rasheed Wallace		122.27
73	Ben Wallace		122.07
74	James Worthy*		122.02
75	Chris Mullin*		121.99
76	Chauncey Billups		121.62
77	Tony Parker		121.06
78	Derek Harper		120.97
79	Andre Miller		120.68
80	Bill Laimbeer		120.56
81	Chris Bosh		120.38
82	Clifford Robinson		120.01
83	Bob McAdoo*		119.58
84	Tim Hardaway		119.14
85	Sam Perkins		118.66
86	Chris Paul		118.48
87	A.C. Green		117.12
88	Terry Cummings		116.23
89	Bailey Howell*		115.71
90	Tracy McGrady		115.50
91	Antawn Jamison		114.50
92	Dave Cowens*		114.26
93	Michael Finley		113.85
94	Joe Johnson		113.30
95	Kevin Johnson		113.23
96	Rod Strickland		113.12
97	Dennis Johnson*		112.73
98	Chet Walker*		112.55
99	Detlef Schrempf		112.23
100	Kevin Durant		111.07
101	Carmelo Anthony		110.97
102	Kevin Willis		110.79
103	Grant Hill		110.77
104	Chris Webber		110.67
105	Paul Silas		110.09
106	Shawn Kemp		110.01
107	Zelmo Beaty		108.48
108	Mookie Blaylock		107.84
109	Hersey Hawkins		107.28
110	Bobby Jones		106.48
111	Rashard Lewis		106.09
112	Mitch Richmond*		106.04
113	Lamar Odom		105.90
114	George McGinnis		105.60
115	Spencer Haywood*		105.60
116	Walt Frazier*		105.28
117	Eddie Jones		104.97
118	Dale Ellis		104.55
119	Carlos Boozer		103.76
120	Manu Ginobili		103.75
121	Dennis Rodman*		103.42
122	Mike Bibby		103.02
123	Tom Chambers		102.28
124	Walter Davis		102.21
125	Alvan Adams		101.79
126	Amar'e Stoudemire		101.59
127	Byron Scott		101.21
128	Zach Randolph		99.37
129	Sam Cassell		99.22
130	Marques Johnson		98.69
131	Andre Iguodala		97.99
132	Dave DeBusschere*		97.88
133	Reggie Theus		97.81
134	Rolando Blackman		97.49
135	Hal Greer*		97.47
136	Gus Williams		97.47
137	Marcus Camby		97.11
138	Dan Majerle		96.80
139	Fat Lever		96.72
140	Ron Harper		96.71
141	Joe Dumars*		96.59
142	Baron Davis		96.59
143	Glen Rice		96.07
144	Alonzo Mourning*		95.80
145	Bill Bridges		95.74
146	Bernard King*		95.67
147	Latrell Sprewell		95.13
148	Maurice Lucas		95.09
149	Mark Aguirre		94.53
150	Dale Davis		93.91
151	Anthony Mason		93.86
152	Josh Smith		93.71
153	Lenny Wilkens*		93.26
154	P.J. Brown		93.04
155	Billy Cunningham*		92.93
156	Stephon Marbury		92.84
157	Bob Dandridge		92.47
158	Willis Reed*		92.47
159	Jamaal Wilkes*		91.47
160	Sam Lacey		91.39
161	Deron Williams		91.38
162	Sidney Moncrief		90.83
163	Billy Paultz		90.42
164	Danny Ainge		90.06
165	David West		89.62
166	Al Jefferson		89.58
167	Shareef Abdur-Rahim		89.38
168	Red Kerr		89.10
169	Tiny Archibald*		88.61
170	Peja Stojakovic		88.41
171	Tyson Chandler		88.29
172	Michael Cage		88.28
173	Caldwell Jones		88.23
174	Richard Jefferson		88.18
175	Metta World Peace		87.73
176	Lou Hudson		87.61
177	Alvin Robertson		87.58
178	Mychal Thompson		87.34
179	Antoine Walker		87.25
180	Antonio McDyess		87.17
181	Jason Richardson		86.98
182	Tayshaun Prince		86.94
183	Jamal Crawford		85.50
184	Robert Horry		85.02
185	Derrick Coleman		84.83
186	Jerome Kersey		84.66
187	Kiki Vandeweghe		84.35
188	Andrei Kirilenko		83.97
189	Larry Johnson		83.85
190	Johnny Green		83.75
191	Happy Hairston		83.71
192	Nick Van Exel		83.64
193	Mark Price		83.64
194	LaMarcus Aldridge		83.51
195	Juwan Howard		83.31
196	Gail Goodrich*		83.15
197	Hot Rod Williams		83.04
198	Anfernee Hardaway		82.79
199	Luol Deng		82.74
200	Bob Cousy*		82.37
201	Cedric Maxwell		82.33
202	Randy Smith		82.15
203	Calvin Murphy*		81.65
204	Rudy Tomjanovich		81.48
205	Paul Arizin*		80.98
206	Norm Nixon		80.81
207	David Wesley		80.78
208	Nick Anderson		80.47
209	Richard Hamilton		80.40
210	Shane Battier		80.35
211	Steve Smith		80.02
212	Dan Roundfield		79.85
213	Larry Kenon		79.64
214	Doc Rivers		79.45
215	David Lee		79.42
216	Sam Jones*		79.42
217	Bill Cartwright		79.06
218	Brad Daugherty		78.75
219	Brad Miller		78.24
220	Derek Fisher		77.99
221	Bob Boozer		77.97
222	Muggsy Bogues		77.31
223	Rodney McCray		77.11
224	Sleepy Floyd		76.94
225	Donyell Marshall		76.86
226	Armen Gilliam		76.82
227	Billy Knight		76.75
228	Jermaine O'Neal		76.59
229	John Drew		76.54
230	Kendall Gill		75.97
231	Dave Bing*		75.70
232	Sidney Wicks		75.66
233	World B. Free		75.50
234	Xavier McDaniel		75.29
235	Cliff Hagan*		75.27
236	Doug Christie		75.21
237	Russell Westbrook		75.20
238	Fred Brown		75.17
239	Mickey Johnson		75.12
240	Terrell Brandon		75.10
241	John Lucas		74.84
242	Damon Stoudamire		74.79
243	Jeff Malone		74.43
244	Toni Kukoc		74.13
245	Earl Monroe*		73.98
246	Michael Cooper		73.74
247	Clifford Ray		73.71
248	Zydrunas Ilgauskas		73.35
249	Rajon Rondo		73.29
250	James Donaldson		73.23
251	Gerald Wallace		73.21
252	Dick Van Arsdale		73.12
253	Leroy Ellis		73.04
254	Mike Mitchell		73.00
255	Mike Gminski		72.92
256	Derrick McKey		72.79
257	Caron Butler		72.74
258	Jerry Stackhouse		72.65
259	Rik Smits		72.62
260	Paul Millsap		72.56
261	Danny Manning		72.15
262	Rickey Green		72.08
263	Rudy LaRusso		71.99
264	Avery Johnson		71.58
265	Truck Robinson		71.52
266	Kenny Anderson		71.41
267	Ricky Pierce		71.25
268	Vinnie Johnson		71.12
269	Stephen Jackson		71.10
270	Tyrone Corbin		71.08
271	Grant Long		71.05
272	Hedo Turkoglu		70.96
273	Jack Twyman*		70.71
274	Larry Foust		70.41
275	Elden Campbell		70.10
276	Michael Adams		70.10
277	Greg Ballard		69.83
278	Nene Hilario		69.21
279	Boris Diaw		69.20
280	Gerald Henderson		69.01
281	Vern Fleming		68.99
282	David Thompson*		68.89
283	Thurl Bailey		68.80
284	Paul Westphal		68.64
285	Rudy Gay		68.55
286	Vin Baker		68.54
287	Purvis Short		68.25
288	Jalen Rose		68.04
289	Tom Gugliotta		67.90
290	Mike Dunleavy		67.86
291	Clarence Weatherspoon		67.86
292	Orlando Woolridge		67.85
293	Monta Ellis		67.68
294	Sean Elliott		67.34
295	Mike Miller		67.31
296	Allan Houston		67.27
297	Al Harrington		67.16
298	Brent Barry		67.13
299	Ed Macauley*		66.89
300	Cuttino Mobley		66.74
301	Calvin Natt		66.69
302	Kenny Smith		66.67
303	Dave Robisch		66.61
304	Jo Jo White*		66.38
305	Joe Barry Carroll		66.33
306	Joe Smith		66.19
307	Kenyon Martin		66.02
308	Jim Paxson		66.01
309	Scott Wedman		65.92
310	James Edwards		65.40
311	Christian Laettner		65.26
312	Jim Jackson		65.19
313	Swen Nater		65.07
314	Neil Johnston*		65.01
315	Louie Dampier		65.00
316	Herb Williams		64.97
317	Don Nelson*		64.93
318	Kevin Martin		64.82
319	Nate McMillan		64.52
320	Wayman Tisdale		64.52
321	George Johnson		64.28
322	Jay Humphries		64.02
323	Kirk Hinrich		63.95
324	Micheal Ray Richardson		63.76
325	Al Horford		63.72
326	Steve Francis		63.69
327	Glenn Robinson		63.67
328	Ron Boone		63.62
329	John Starks		63.49
330	Michael Redd		63.39
331	Kurt Thomas		63.30
332	Mark Eaton		63.18
333	Antonio Davis		63.18
334	James Harden		63.06
335	Bob Love		63.05
336	Paul Pressey		63.02
337	Robert Reid		62.91
338	Kevin Love		62.87
339	Clyde Lovellette*		62.81
340	Stephen Curry		62.74
341	Marc Gasol		62.65
342	Dave Greenwood		62.53
343	Terry Tyler		62.50
344	Wayne Embry*		62.38
345	Pete Maravich*		62.23
346	Jack Marin		62.08
347	Yao Ming		62.06
348	Olden Polynice		61.90
349	Richie Guerin*		61.77
350	Gilbert Arenas		61.70
351	Jose Calderon		61.62
352	Corey Maggette		61.50
353	Harry Gallatin*		61.42
354	Ray Scott		61.33
355	Jason Williams		61.31
356	Mel Daniels*		61.12
357	Dell Curry		60.97
358	Gerald Wilkins		60.90
359	Don Buse		60.89
360	Mike Conley		60.68
361	Kelly Tripucka		60.57
362	Joakim Noah		60.53
363	Steve Mix		60.48
364	Larry Smith		60.21
365	Tom Meschery		60.11
366	Otis Birdsong		60.10
367	Raymond Felton		60.05
368	Tom Heinsohn*		59.95
369	Mo Williams		59.84
370	Jerry Sloan*		59.76
371	Dick Barnett		59.74
372	Mehmet Okur		59.45
373	Sedale Threatt		59.40
374	Rony Seikaly		59.39
375	Elmore Smith		59.35
376	Blake Griffin		59.18
377	Vern Mikkelsen*		59.04
378	Brad Davis		59.03
379	Jeff Mullins		59.02
380	Tree Rollins		58.93
381	Rick Fox		58.90
382	Benoit Benjamin		58.82
383	Samuel Dalembert		58.79
384	Erick Dampier		58.74
385	Charlie Scott		58.06
386	John Johnson		58.05
387	Kyle Korver		58.01
388	Craig Ehlo		57.89
389	Chuck Person		57.49
390	Troy Murphy		57.30
391	Mack Calvin		57.21
392	Jim Washington		57.19
393	Willie Wise		57.06
394	Gus Johnson*		56.96
395	Jameer Nelson		56.95
396	Archie Clark		56.88
397	Danny Granger		56.51
398	Darrell Griffith		56.46
399	Jim Chones		56.23
400	Darrell Armstrong		56.18
401	James Posey		56.17
402	Johnny Newman		56.10
403	J.R. Smith		56.06
404	Jamal Mashburn		55.90
405	Brian Grant		55.87
406	Emeka Okafor		55.80
407	George Mikan*		55.80
408	Jim McMillian		55.76
409	Thaddeus Young		55.71
410	Tyrone Hill		55.64
411	Rick Mahorn		55.63
412	Gar Heard		55.34
413	Willie Naulls		55.30
414	Spud Webb		55.18
415	Joe Caldwell		55.07
416	Ray Williams		55.02
417	Trevor Ariza		54.71
418	James Silas		54.69
419	Drew Gooden		54.66
420	Wesley Person		54.58
421	Mark Olberding		54.47
422	Bill Walton*		54.45
423	Kerry Kittles		54.39
424	Larry Hughes		54.34
425	Cazzie Russell		54.27
426	Dana Barros		53.93
427	Mike Newlin		53.84
428	Pooh Richardson		53.76
429	Junior Bridgeman		53.67
430	Clyde Lee		53.58
431	Kyle Lowry		53.26
432	Udonis Haslem		53.22
433	Andrew Bogut		53.18
434	Jarrett Jack		53.15
435	Vernon Maxwell		53.15
436	Connie Hawkins*		52.99
437	Tom Owens		52.95
438	Bo Outlaw		52.79
439	Rodney Rogers		52.78
440	John Long		52.70
441	Devin Harris		52.51
442	Wally Szczerbiak		52.42
443	T.R. Dunn		52.29
444	Dave Corzine		52.24
445	Tom Gola*		51.96
446	Rich Kelley		51.91
447	Luke Ridnour		51.87
448	Keith Van Horn		51.44
449	Dick Snyder		51.35
450	Ken Norman		51.13
451	Darryl Dawkins		51.12
452	Sherman Douglas		51.10
453	Norm Van Lier		51.09
454	LaSalle Thompson		51.08
455	Luis Scola		50.94
456	Tom Van Arsdale		50.93
457	Ben Gordon		50.90
458	Charles Smith		50.65
459	Chris Morris		50.50
460	Mario Elie		50.20
461	Mike Woodson		50.02
462	Darrell Walker		49.87
463	Johnny Davis		49.82
464	Danny Schayes		49.68
465	John Salmons		49.64
466	Chris Ford		49.58
467	Cliff Robinson		49.52
468	Marvin Williams		49.49
469	Bryon Russell		49.45
470	Terry Dischinger		49.39
471	Ricky Sobers		49.28
472	Mike Bantom		49.12
473	Brendan Haywood		49.06
474	Lonnie Shelton		49.04
475	Phil Smith		48.99
476	Jim Fox		48.97
477	Tom Sanders*		48.96
478	Reggie Lewis		48.79
479	Guy Rodgers*		48.77
480	Ricky Davis		48.76
481	Rory Sparrow		48.71
482	Roger Brown*		48.70
483	Serge Ibaka		48.68
484	Phil Chenier		48.62
485	Shawn Bradley		48.62
486	Quentin Richardson		48.50
487	Johnny Moore		48.46
488	Brian Winters		48.37
489	B.J. Armstrong		48.24
490	Stacey Augmon		47.99
491	Bill Sharman*		47.89
492	Loy Vaught		47.72
493	Theo Ratliff		47.70
494	Rafer Alston		47.70
495	George Yardley*		47.60
496	Ed Pinckney		47.53
497	Wayne Cooper		47.47
498	Tim Thomas		47.41
499	Harvey Grant		47.37
500	Bingo Smith		47.26
501	Eric Snow		46.94
502	Jimmy Walker		46.82
503	Wil Jones		46.46
504	Mark West		46.40
505	Jim Eakins		46.33
506	Kenny Sears		46.32
507	DeAndre Jordan		46.32
508	Brian Shaw		46.07
509	Freddie Lewis		45.84
510	Brian Taylor		45.79
511	Aaron McKie		45.76
512	Bruce Bowen		45.73
513	Kenny Carr		45.38
514	Vinny Del Negro		45.35
515	Larry Drew		45.27
516	Curtis Rowe		45.23
517	Rex Chapman		45.22
518	Don Kojis		45.18
519	Josh Howard		45.07
520	Anthony Peeler		45.03
521	Otto Moore		44.86
522	Nick Collison		44.63
523	Brook Lopez		44.62
524	Ruben Patterson		44.62
525	Lindsey Hunter		44.59
526	Kurt Rambis		44.52
527	Ty Lawson		44.49
528	Matt Barnes		44.44
529	Sam Mitchell		44.43
530	Billy Owens		44.28
531	Brevin Knight		44.07
532	Dennis Scott		43.86
533	Ralph Sampson*		43.85
534	Jack Coleman		43.81
535	Morris Peterson		43.77
536	Alton Lister		43.76
537	Allen Leavell		43.72
538	Dee Brown		43.71
539	Cedric Ceballos		43.70
540	Leandro Barbosa		43.70
541	Jeff Green		43.65
542	Antonio Daniels		43.47
543	Lucius Allen		43.36
544	Tom Boerwinkle		43.24
545	Derek Anderson		43.23
546	Antoine Carr		43.12
547	Scott Skiles		43.03
548	Marcin Gortat		43.01
549	LaPhonso Ellis		42.93
550	Greg Monroe		42.85
551	Derrick Rose		42.77
552	Chris Kaman		42.72
553	Walt Williams		42.66
554	Louis Williams		42.56
555	Darrall Imhoff		42.48
556	Nicolas Batum		42.46
557	George Hill		42.44
558	George Lynch		42.39
559	Campy Russell		42.32
560	Bobby Jackson		42.31
561	Chucky Atkins		42.05
562	John Salley		41.95
563	John Wall		41.95
564	Neal Walk		41.93
565	Kyle Macy		41.89
566	Brandon Jennings		41.85
567	Rod Higgins		41.66
568	John Paxson		41.60
569	Johnny Dawkins		41.58
570	Steve Blake		41.41
571	Matt Harpring		41.33
572	Blue Edwards		41.31
573	Rasho Nesterovic		41.18
574	John Bagley		41.10
575	Kent Benson		41.05
576	Jay Vincent		40.97
577	Wesley Matthews		40.76
578	Ralph Simpson		40.66
579	Earl Watson		40.66
580	Isaiah Rider		40.65
581	Jon McGlocklin		40.63
582	Lester Conner		40.58
583	Corliss Williamson		40.58
584	Roy Hibbert		40.56
585	Raef LaFrentz		40.37
586	DeMarcus Cousins		40.17
587	Frank Brickowski		40.17
588	Austin Carr		40.11
589	Ray Felix		40.09
590	Jimmy Jones		40.07
591	Roy Hinson		39.95
592	Reggie Williams		39.92
593	Gene Banks		39.91
594	Lorenzen Wright		39.86
595	Kevin Porter		39.82
596	Tyreke Evans		39.79
597	M.L. Carr		39.74
598	Greg Anthony		39.72
599	Raja Bell		39.71
600	Jeff Ruland		39.70
601	Lionel Hollins		39.70
602	Jared Dudley		39.46
603	Jeff Foster		39.41
604	Clem Haskins		39.33
605	Terry Mills		39.31
606	Zaza Pachulia		39.22
607	Gene Shue		39.19
608	Willie Anderson		39.07
609	Brandon Roy		39.07
610	Bonzi Wells		38.97
611	Kenny Thomas		38.84
612	Gerald Govan		38.72
613	Bob Netolicky		38.53
614	Channing Frye		38.46
615	Bimbo Coles		38.44
616	Dwight Jones		38.42
617	Lamond Murray		38.39
618	Darnell Valentine		38.37
619	Mario Chalmers		38.28
620	O.J. Mayo		38.19
621	Bob Kauffman		38.12
622	Curtis Perry		38.04
623	Jerome Williams		37.92
624	Ervin Johnson		37.88
625	Steve Kerr		37.87
626	Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf		37.79
627	Quinn Buckner		37.79
628	Kevin Gamble		37.69
629	Jim Brewer		37.64
630	Larry Costello		37.51
631	Desmond Mason		37.46
632	Beno Udrih		37.44
633	Joe Graboski		37.42
634	Brandon Bass		37.31
635	Darwin Cook		37.22
636	Steve Stipanovich		37.15
637	Andrew Bynum		37.08
638	Calbert Cheaney		37.07
639	Sam Bowie		36.82
640	John Block		36.79
641	Trent Tucker		36.75
642	Paul George		36.68
643	Darnell Hillman		36.68
644	Steve Hawes		36.63
645	Donnie Freeman		36.61
646	Mike Gale		36.56
647	Arvydas Sabonis*		36.54
648	Phil Hubbard		36.52
649	Kevin Duckworth		36.48
650	Rodney Stuckey		36.43
651	Marvin Webster		36.35
652	Randy Foye		36.34
653	George McCloud		36.31
654	Don Chaney		36.23
655	Walter Dukes		36.21
656	Don Ohl		36.00
657	Jrue Holiday		35.96
658	Chuck Share		35.91
659	Geoff Petrie		35.91
660	Doug Collins		35.88
661	Kendrick Perkins		35.88
662	Andrea Bargnani		35.76
663	Tony Battie		35.72
664	Ron Anderson		35.72
665	Kawhi Leonard		35.57
666	Darren Collison		35.54
667	Red Robbins		35.51
668	Goran Dragic		35.47
669	DeMar DeRozan		35.44
670	Bill Bradley*		35.40
671	Nate Robinson		35.34
672	Bob Rule		35.31
673	Tom Hawkins		35.28
674	Kermit Washington		35.27
675	Eric Murdock		35.14
676	Lionel Simmons		35.09
677	Ramon Sessions		35.08
678	Tom Henderson		34.99
679	Bob Gross		34.95
680	Anderson Varejao		34.94
681	Jim Barnett		34.84
682	Foots Walker		34.82
683	Luke Jackson		34.79
684	Bob Sura		34.69
685	Terry Catledge		34.62
686	Mahdi Abdul-Rahman		34.56
687	Craig Hodges		34.44
688	Chris Gatling		34.43
689	Bryant Stith		34.40
690	Arron Afflalo		34.30
691	Micheal Williams		34.29
692	Steve Johnson		34.26
693	Nazr Mohammed		34.23
694	Mel Counts		34.10
695	Voshon Lenard		34.07
696	Nate Williams		34.03
697	Frank Ramsey*		34.01
698	Andrew Toney		33.95
699	Dorell Wright		33.86
700	Cliff Levingston		33.84
701	Goose Ligon		33.66
702	Jason Thompson		33.65
703	Jamaal Tinsley		33.64
704	Charlie Villanueva		33.63
705	Anthony Parker		33.57
706	Joe Meriweather		33.54
707	Spencer Hawes		33.53
708	Keith Erickson		33.36
709	Lucious Harris		33.28
710	Vladimir Radmanovic		33.28
711	Connie Dierking		33.26
712	Tony Campbell		33.26
713	Courtney Lee		33.26
714	Ben Poquette		33.23
715	Amir Johnson		33.00
716	Danny Ferry		32.98
717	Charlie Ward		32.96
718	Kevin Loughery		32.78
719	J.J. Redick		32.76
720	Gordon Hayward		32.70
721	Arnie Risen*		32.67
722	Greg Anderson		32.66
723	Butch Beard		32.61
724	Thabo Sefolosha		32.60
725	Kyrie Irving		32.57
726	Wilson Chandler		32.50
727	George Thompson		32.49
728	Andray Blatche		32.46
729	Oliver Miller		32.42
730	Mel Hutchins		32.42
731	Greg Ostertag		32.40
732	J.J. Hickson		32.27
733	D.J. Augustin		32.26
734	Damian Lillard		32.21
735	Bill Hanzlik		32.20
736	Zaid Abdul-Aziz		32.10
737	Fred Roberts		32.05
738	Dave Gambee		32.02
739	Phil Ford		31.90
740	Larry Jones		31.85
741	Winston Garland		31.84
742	Fred Carter		31.84
743	Pervis Ellison		31.80
744	Louis Orr		31.79
745	Eric Gordon		31.73
746	Ersan Ilyasova		31.62
747	Jim Cleamons		31.55
748	Andris Biedrins		31.50
749	George Carter		31.45
750	Allan Bristow		31.31
751	Jon Koncak		31.16
752	Lloyd Neal		31.10
753	Kevin Edwards		31.01
754	Corey Brewer		30.96
755	Jeff Teague		30.88
756	Francisco Garcia		30.58
757	Charles Jones		30.50
758	Jon Barry		30.50
759	Chris Mills		30.42
760	Klay Thompson		30.35
761	Ronnie Brewer		30.35
762	Tony Allen		30.31
763	Travis Best		30.25
764	Taj Gibson		30.25
765	Mike James		30.11
766	Danilo Gallinari		30.04
767	Andrew Lang		30.03
768	Bobby Phills		29.99
769	Delonte West		29.97
770	Mike Lewis		29.87
771	Ollie Johnson		29.86
772	Reggie Evans		29.84
773	Eddy Curry		29.76
774	Pat Cummings		29.71
775	Shandon Anderson		29.67
776	Ryan Anderson		29.59
777	John Tresvant		29.51
778	Terry Teagle		29.51
779	Will Perdue		29.48
780	Martell Webster		29.46
781	Jamaal Magloire		29.43
782	John Gianelli		29.43
783	Matt Geiger		29.35
784	John Shumate		29.19
785	Ernie Grunfeld		29.17
786	Kelvin Ransey		29.16
787	Larry Steele		29.16
788	Derrick Favors		29.12
789	Blair Rasmussen		29.08
790	Carl Landry		29.06
791	Robin Lopez		29.02
792	Reggie King		28.99
793	Chris Andersen		28.85
794	Chandler Parsons		28.84
795	Randy Breuer		28.82
796	Damon Jones		28.79
797	T.J. Ford		28.76
798	Kemba Walker		28.74
799	Mike Riordan		28.73
800	Rich Jones		28.72
801	Stu Lantz		28.69
802	Danny Green		28.64
803	Kris Humphries		28.51
804	Todd Day		28.48
805	Henry Bibby		28.47
806	Hubert Davis		28.47
807	John Williamson		28.42
808	Herm Gilliam		28.41
809	Eric Williams		28.38
810	Kenneth Faried		28.37
811	Roy Tarpley		28.35
812	Bill Robinzine		28.30
813	J.R. Reid		28.25
814	Gary Grant		28.24
815	Phil Jackson*		28.13
816	Bison Dele		28.05
817	Kevin Kunnert		27.88
818	Popeye Jones		27.81
819	Clark Kellogg		27.78
820	Carl Braun		27.74
821	Mike Green		27.73
822	John Williams		27.71
823	Andre Drummond		27.69
824	Adrian Smith		27.69
825	Kevin Grevey		27.67
826	Chris Duhon		27.60
827	Eddie Miles		27.60
828	Mark Blount		27.56
829	Marvin Barnes		27.49
830	Bob Ferry		27.48
831	Sonny Parker		27.46
832	Tom Burleson		27.43
833	Jeff McInnis		27.42
834	Marcus Thornton		27.39
835	Carlos Delfino		27.36
836	Lewis Lloyd		27.34
837	DeShawn Stevenson		27.27
838	Clemon Johnson		27.25
839	Greg Smith		27.15
840	Eric Piatkowski		27.15
841	Earl Boykins		27.13
842	Alan Henderson		27.11
843	Tom McMillen		27.09
844	Matt Bonner		26.84
845	Coby Dietrick		26.82
846	Bob Wilkerson		26.70
847	C.J. Watson		26.58
848	Chris Whitney		26.51
849	Aaron Brooks		26.49
850	Nathaniel Clifton*		26.49
851	Ryan Gomes		26.48
852	Alvin Williams		26.46
853	Bill Keller		26.44
854	Flynn Robinson		26.22
855	Isaiah Thomas		26.21
856	Doug West		26.18
857	Quintin Dailey		26.14
858	Sidney Green		26.12
859	Howard Eisley		26.09
860	Len Chappell		25.96
861	Josh Childress		25.93
862	Nick Young		25.92
863	Rasual Butler		25.84
864	Julius Keye		25.80
865	Jim Davis		25.67
866	Maurice Stokes*		25.64
867	Michael Smith		25.57
868	Chris Dudley		25.48
869	Mickael Pietrus		25.46
870	Nikola Vucevic		25.40
871	Michael Brooks		25.40
872	Chris Childs		25.34
873	Jose Barea		25.34
874	Keith Bogans		25.21
875	Ron Brewer		25.19
876	C.J. Miles		25.15
877	Jimmy Butler		25.14
878	Evan Turner		25.08
879	Andres Nocioni		25.06
880	Clint Richardson		25.00
881	Albert King		25.00
882	John Mengelt		24.93
883	Manny Leaks		24.90
884	Bryant Reeves		24.85
885	Dick McGuire*		24.84
886	Rick Roberson		24.83
887	Luc Mbah a Moute		24.76
888	Mitch Kupchak		24.73
889	Stew Johnson		24.70
890	Tristan Thompson		24.70
891	Glen Combs		24.67
892	Keyon Dooling		24.64
893	Jim Price		24.64
894	Randy Wittman		24.62
895	Malik Rose		24.59
896	Cornell Warner		24.57
897	Steve Jones		24.57
898	Marco Belinelli		24.51
899	Darius Miles		24.41
900	Shaun Livingston		24.30
901	Frank Johnson		24.29
902	Austin Croshere		24.28
903	Dave Twardzik		24.28
904	Toby Kimball		24.01
905	Jodie Meeks		23.83
906	Jerry Sichting		23.71
907	Dave Stallworth		23.70
908	Geoff Huston		23.69
909	Alvin Scott		23.67
910	Hakim Warrick		23.66
911	Maurice Evans		23.64
912	Bill Melchionni		23.63
913	Joe Kleine		23.59
914	Kurt Nimphius		23.54
915	JaVale McGee		23.52
916	Gary Trent		23.51
917	Anthony Johnson		23.45
918	Bobby Simmons		23.42
919	Ed Davis		23.40
920	Tracy Murray		23.38
921	Anthony Morrow		23.34
922	Stromile Swift		23.28
923	Mike McGee		23.22
924	McCoy McLemore		23.21
925	Robert Pack		23.15
926	Danny Young		23.15
927	Eric Bledsoe		23.11
928	Jim Pollard*		23.10
929	Fatty Taylor		23.08
930	Slick Watts		23.05
931	Bobby Wanzer*		23.00
932	Ron Mercer		22.99
933	Marko Jaric		22.98
934	Michael Beasley		22.97
935	Chuck Williams		22.97
936	Willie Green		22.95
937	Dennis Awtrey		22.92
938	Drazen Petrovic*		22.75
939	Trenton Hassell		22.70
940	Adonal Foyle		22.69
941	Jayson Williams		22.68
942	Joe Bryant		22.68
943	Buck Johnson		22.68
944	Travis Outlaw		22.49
945	Derek Smith		22.47
946	Luc Longley		22.42
947	Al Attles		22.41
948	Otis Smith		22.25
949	Tim McCormick		22.22
950	Felton Spencer		22.20

Posted: **Sat May 02, 2015 3:21 am**

HIGHEST PLAYER VALUE SHARE PER GAME LIST
*Calculated Game

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1	Michael Jordan*		0.193
2	Magic Johnson*		0.184
3	LeBron James		0.183
4	David Robinson*		0.182
5	Wilt Chamberlain*	0.181
6	Charles Barkley*	0.179
7	Hakeem Olajuwon*	0.175
8	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*	0.174
9	Shaquille O'Neal	0.172
10	Larry Bird*		0.170
11	Bill Russell*		0.165
12	Kevin Love		0.163
13	Kevin Durant		0.163
14	Tim Duncan		0.162
15	Bob Pettit*		0.162
16	Karl Malone*		0.162
17	Chris Paul		0.160
18	Stephen Curry		0.158
19	John Stockton*		0.158
20	Moses Malone*		0.157
21	Andre Drummond		0.157
22	Kevin Garnett		0.157
23	Julius Erving*		0.156
24	Clyde Drexler*		0.154
25	Dwight Howard		0.152
26	Bob Lanier*		0.151
27	Blake Griffin		0.150
28	DeMarcus Cousins	0.150
29	Dirk Nowitzki		0.149
30	Dwyane Wade		0.149
31	Bob McAdoo*		0.147
32	Larry Nance		0.146
33	Kevin Johnson		0.145
34	Artis Gilmore*		0.144
35	James Harden		0.144
36	Oscar Robertson*	0.143
37	Kobe Bryant		0.143
38	Dominique Wilkins*	0.142
39	Walt Bellamy*		0.142
40	Elgin Baylor*		0.142
41	Bill Walton*		0.142
42	Tracy McGrady		0.141
43	Fat Lever		0.141
44	Jerry Lucas*		0.141
45	Patrick Ewing*		0.140
46	Marques Johnson		0.140
47	Russell Westbrook	0.140
48	Pau Gasol		0.139
49	Kawhi Leonard		0.139
50	Yao Ming		0.139
51	Amar'e Stoudemire	0.139
52	Adrian Dantley*		0.139
53	Dan Issel*		0.139
54	Chuck Share		0.139
55	Mark Price		0.138
56	Kevin McHale*		0.138
57	George Mikan*		0.138
58	Alex English*		0.137
59	Robert Parish*		0.136
60	Manu Ginobili		0.136
61	Al Jefferson		0.136
62	Kenneth Faried		0.135
63	Brad Daugherty		0.135
64	Willis Reed*		0.134
65	Neil Johnston*		0.134
66	Chris Mullin*		0.134
67	Steve Nash		0.134
68	Mike Lewis		0.133
69	Shawn Marion		0.133
70	Elton Brand		0.133
71	Kyrie Irving		0.133
72	Alonzo Mourning*	0.133
73	Nikola Vucevic		0.133
74	Nikola Pekovic		0.132
75	Micheal Williams	0.132
76	Jason Kidd		0.132
77	Sidney Moncrief		0.132
78	Al Horford		0.131
79	Jeff Ruland		0.131
80	Greg Monroe		0.131
81	Goose Ligon		0.131
82	Paul Millsap		0.131
83	David Lee		0.130
84	Scottie Pippen*		0.130
85	Elvin Hayes*		0.130
86	Jerry West*		0.130
87	Roy Tarpley		0.130
88	George Gervin*		0.129
89	Bobby Jones		0.129
90	Johnny Moore		0.129
91	LaMarcus Aldridge	0.128
92	Gus Williams		0.128
93	Chris Bosh		0.128
94	Alvin Robertson		0.128
95	Clyde Lovellette*	0.128
96	Calvin Natt		0.128
97	Anfernee Hardaway	0.127
98	Carmelo Anthony		0.127
99	Paul Pierce		0.127
100	John Drew		0.127
101	Carlos Boozer		0.127
102	Terry Porter		0.127
103	Bailey Howell*		0.127
104	Joakim Noah		0.127
105	Spencer Haywood*		0.127
106	Clark Kellogg		0.127
107	Michael Adams		0.127
108	Andrew Bynum		0.126
109	Andrei Kirilenko		0.126
110	David West		0.126
111	Kiki Vandeweghe		0.126
112	Billy Cunningham*		0.126
113	Shawn Kemp		0.126
114	Marcus Camby		0.126
115	Brook Lopez		0.126
116	Walter Davis		0.126
117	Terrell Brandon		0.125
118	Alvan Adams		0.125
119	Gary Payton*		0.125
120	Allen Iverson		0.125
121	James Worthy*		0.125
122	Terry Cummings		0.125
123	DeAndre Jordan		0.125
124	Wes Unseld*		0.125
125	Chris Webber		0.124
126	Cedric Ceballos		0.124
127	Eric Murdock		0.124
128	Nate Thurmond*		0.124
129	Ty Lawson		0.124
130	Dan Roundfield		0.123
131	Dave Cowens*		0.123
132	Dikembe Mutombo		0.123
133	Jeff Hornacek		0.123
134	Maurice Cheeks		0.123
135	Brandon Roy		0.123
136	Marcin Gortat		0.123
137	Tiago Splitter		0.123
138	Maurice Stokes*		0.122
139	Dolph Schayes*		0.122
140	David Thompson*		0.122
141	Michael Redd		0.122
142	Damian Lillard		0.122
143	Isiah Thomas*		0.122
144	Vince Carter		0.122
145	Tim Hardaway		0.122
146	Grant Hill		0.122
147	Vlade Divac		0.122
148	Marc Gasol		0.122
149	Zach Randolph		0.122
150	Reggie Miller*		0.122
151	Swen Nater		0.121
152	Johnny Green		0.121
153	Ben Wallace		0.121
154	Gheorghe Muresan		0.121
155	Mookie Blaylock		0.121
156	Chauncey Billups		0.121
157	Kermit Washington		0.121
158	Rick Barry*		0.121
159	Derrick Rose		0.121
160	Micheal Ray Richardson		0.121
161	Derrick Coleman		0.121
162	Elmore Smith		0.121
163	Rod Strickland		0.120
164	Jack Sikma		0.120
165	Dennis Rodman*		0.120
166	Deron Williams		0.120
167	Serge Ibaka		0.120
168	Ryan Anderson		0.120
169	George McGinnis		0.120
170	Paul George		0.120
171	Zelmo Beaty		0.120
172	Baron Davis		0.119
173	Rajon Rondo		0.119
174	Bernard King*		0.119
175	Happy Hairston		0.119
176	Bob Rule		0.119
177	Clifford Ray		0.118
178	Isaiah Thomas		0.118
179	Emeka Okafor		0.118
180	John Wall		0.118
181	Bill Laimbeer		0.117
182	Jimmy Butler		0.117
183	Tom Burleson		0.117
184	Paul Westphal		0.117
185	Billy Knight		0.117
186	Steve Mix		0.116
187	JaVale McGee		0.116
188	Peja Stojakovic		0.116
189	John Shumate		0.116
190	Gilbert Arenas		0.116
191	Mike Gminski		0.116
192	Jeff Teague		0.116
193	Ray Allen		0.116
194	Reggie Lewis		0.116
195	Brad Miller		0.116
196	Kenny Sears		0.116
197	Mark Aguirre		0.116
198	Horace Grant		0.116
199	Doc Rivers		0.116
200	Ersan Ilyasova		0.115
201	Andre Iguodala		0.115
202	Andrew Bogut		0.115
203	Josh Smith		0.115
204	Buck Williams		0.115
205	Hersey Hawkins		0.115
206	Cliff Hagan*		0.115
207	Kevin Martin		0.115
208	Marvin Barnes		0.115
209	Ralph Sampson*		0.114
210	Red Robbins		0.114
211	Mark Jackson		0.114
212	Bob Kauffman		0.114
213	Dino Radja		0.114
214	Chris Andersen		0.114
215	Darrell Armstrong		0.114
216	Detlef Schrempf		0.114
217	Kyle Lowry		0.114
218	Derrick Favors		0.114
219	Connie Hawkins*		0.114
220	Gerald Wallace		0.114
221	Tyson Chandler		0.114
222	Mel Daniels*		0.114
223	Rudy Tomjanovich		0.114
224	Larry Kenon		0.114
225	Jose Calderon		0.114
226	Danny Granger		0.113
227	Cedric Maxwell		0.113
228	Harry Gallatin*		0.113
229	Nick Anderson		0.112
230	Danny Green		0.112
231	Otis Thorpe		0.112
232	Nene Hilario		0.112
233	Danny Manning		0.112
234	Rickey Green		0.112
235	Paul Pressey		0.112
236	Hot Rod Williams		0.112
237	Nate McMillan		0.112
238	Thaddeus Young		0.112
239	Shareef Abdur-Rahim		0.112
240	Mehmet Okur		0.112
241	Muggsy Bogues		0.112
242	Loy Vaught		0.111
243	Andris Biedrins		0.111
244	Dana Barros		0.111
245	Ed Davis		0.111
246	Donyell Marshall		0.111
247	Chris Whitney		0.111
248	Mitch Richmond*		0.111
249	Eddie Jones		0.111
250	Antawn Jamison		0.111
251	Anthony Davis		0.111
252	Sam Cassell		0.111
253	Tony Parker		0.111
254	Troy Murphy		0.111
255	Rashard Lewis		0.111
256	Jamaal Wilkes*		0.111
257	Toni Kukoc		0.111
258	Zaid Abdul-Aziz		0.111
259	Ricky Pierce		0.110
260	Tom Gugliotta		0.110
261	Tom Boerwinkle		0.110
262	Jermaine O'Neal		0.110
263	Walt Frazier*		0.110
264	Kemba Walker		0.110
265	Neal Walk		0.110
266	Jerome Kersey		0.110
267	Zydrunas Ilgauskas		0.110
268	Dave Robisch		0.110
269	Greg Ballard		0.110
270	Chet Walker*		0.110
271	Ed Pinckney		0.110
272	Kris Humphries		0.110
273	Lloyd Neal		0.110
274	Jim Fox		0.110
275	Armen Gilliam		0.109
276	Gordon Hayward		0.109
277	Eric Bledsoe		0.109
278	George Yardley*		0.109
279	Andre Miller		0.109
280	Jayson Williams		0.109
281	Louis Williams		0.109
282	Stephon Marbury		0.109
283	Red Kerr		0.109
284	Chandler Parsons		0.109
285	Willie Wise		0.109
286	Danilo Gallinari		0.109
287	Robin Lopez		0.109
288	Jerome Williams		0.109
289	Jason Richardson		0.109
290	Mickey Johnson		0.109
291	John Williams		0.109
292	Derek Harper		0.108
293	Sonny Parker		0.108
294	Lewis Lloyd		0.108
295	Monta Ellis		0.108
296	Larry Johnson		0.108
297	Sam Perkins		0.108
298	Ricky Rubio		0.108
299	Kenny Anderson		0.108
300	Brandon Jennings		0.108
301	Rasheed Wallace		0.108
302	Ron Harper		0.108
303	J.J. Hickson		0.108
304	Lester Conner		0.108
305	A.C. Green		0.108
306	Mike Conley		0.108
307	Lamar Odom		0.108
308	Ronnie Brewer		0.108
309	Luol Deng		0.107
310	Arvydas Sabonis*		0.107
311	Chris Gatling		0.107
312	Kerry Kittles		0.107
313	Steve Francis		0.107
314	Pervis Ellison		0.107
315	Gene Banks		0.107
316	Enes Kanter		0.107
317	Mitch Kupchak		0.107
318	Ray Williams		0.107
319	Michael Cage		0.106
320	Dale Ellis		0.106
321	Andray Blatche		0.106
322	Nicolas Batum		0.106
323	Antonio McDyess		0.106
324	Rich Kelley		0.106
325	Sleepy Floyd		0.106
326	Steve Stipanovich		0.106
327	Rodney McCray		0.106
328	Otis Smith		0.106
329	Brent Barry		0.106
330	Billy Paultz		0.106
331	Kevin Willis		0.106
332	Dale Davis		0.106
333	Mychal Thompson		0.106
334	Tom Owens		0.106
335	Antoine Walker		0.106
336	Luis Scola		0.106
337	Sarunas Marciulionis*		0.106
338	Josh Howard		0.106
339	Len Chappell		0.106
340	Klay Thompson		0.105
341	Fred Brown		0.105
342	Bob Boozer		0.105
343	Tyreke Evans		0.105
344	Rolando Blackman		0.105
345	Sidney Wicks		0.105
346	Byron Scott		0.105
347	Charlie Villanueva		0.105
348	Anderson Varejao		0.105
349	Josh Childress		0.105
350	Carl Landry		0.104
351	Amir Johnson		0.104
352	Raef LaFrentz		0.104
353	Rudy Gay		0.104
354	Lionel Simmons		0.104
355	Jon Barry		0.104
356	Maurice Lucas		0.104
357	Mike Mitchell		0.104
358	John Lucas		0.104
359	Ruben Patterson		0.104
360	Goran Dragic		0.104
361	Darren Collison		0.104
362	Kenny Smith		0.104
363	Terry Tyler		0.103
364	Joe Barry Carroll		0.103
365	Drew Gooden		0.103
366	Bill Bridges		0.103
367	Drazen Petrovic*		0.103
368	Jason Terry		0.103
369	Reggie King		0.103
370	Rik Smits		0.103
371	Oliver Miller		0.103
372	Xavier McDaniel		0.103
373	Orlando Woolridge		0.103
374	Otis Birdsong		0.103
375	Danny Ainge		0.103
376	LaSalle Thompson		0.103
377	James Donaldson		0.103
378	Larry Smith		0.103
379	Mike Bibby		0.103
380	Sam Lacey		0.103
381	Omer Asik		0.103
382	World B. Free		0.103
383	Kelly Tripucka		0.103
384	Dell Curry		0.103
385	Dan Majerle		0.103
386	Jeff Foster		0.103
387	Marcus Thornton		0.103
388	Kurt Rambis		0.103
389	Anthony Mason		0.102
390	Dave DeBusschere*		0.102
391	Bob Dandridge		0.102
392	Vern Fleming		0.102
393	Paul Silas		0.102
394	Ken Norman		0.102
395	Samuel Dalembert		0.102
396	Gus Johnson*		0.102
397	Tom Chambers		0.102
398	DeMarre Carroll		0.102
399	Jrue Holiday		0.102
400	Jim Paxson		0.102
401	Benoit Benjamin		0.101
402	Larry Jones		0.101
403	Roy Hibbert		0.101
404	Tristan Thompson		0.101
405	Paul Arizin*		0.101
406	Dorell Wright		0.101
407	Sam Jones*		0.101
408	Ed Macauley*		0.101
409	Reggie Theus		0.101
410	Trevor Ariza		0.101
411	Tracy Murray		0.101
412	Chris Morris		0.101
413	J.R. Smith		0.101
414	Ray Scott		0.101
415	Truck Robinson		0.101
416	Bo Outlaw		0.101
417	Scott Brooks		0.101
418	Shawn Bradley		0.101
419	Elden Campbell		0.101
420	Spud Webb		0.101
421	Michael Finley		0.101
422	Wayman Tisdale		0.101
423	Michael Brooks		0.101
424	Trevor Booker		0.101
425	Leandro Barbosa		0.100
426	Pooh Richardson		0.100
427	Rony Seikaly		0.100
428	Lou Hudson		0.100
429	Joe Johnson		0.100
430	Sam Bowie		0.100
431	Warren Jabali		0.100
432	Glen Rice		0.100
433	Nick Van Exel		0.100
434	Corey Maggette		0.100
435	Devin Harris		0.100
436	Kyle Macy		0.100
437	Charles Oakley		0.100
438	John Havlicek*		0.100
439	Roger Brown*		0.100
440	Doug Christie		0.100
441	Craig Ehlo		0.100
442	George Hill		0.100
443	Dee Brown		0.099
444	Scott Skiles		0.099
445	Darrell Walker		0.099
446	Norm Nixon		0.099
447	Vin Baker		0.099
448	Mike Green		0.099
449	Purvis Short		0.099
450	Wayne Embry*		0.099
451	Johnny Dawkins		0.099
452	Jim Eakins		0.099
453	Harold Pressley		0.099
454	Nazr Mohammed		0.099
455	Taj Gibson		0.099
456	Don Nelson*		0.099
457	Terry Dischinger		0.099
458	Manny Leaks		0.099
459	John Block		0.099
460	Charles Smith		0.099
461	Bison Dele		0.099
462	Brad Davis		0.099
463	Bob Gross		0.098
464	Tree Rollins		0.098
465	Marreese Speights		0.098
466	Wally Szczerbiak		0.098
467	Rod Higgins		0.098
468	Metta World Peace		0.098
469	Reggie Williams		0.098
470	Jack Twyman*		0.098
471	Vinnie Johnson		0.098
472	Darryl Dawkins		0.098
473	Jay Humphries		0.098
474	Clifford Robinson		0.098
475	Larry Foust		0.098
476	Jamario Moon		0.098
477	Adam Keefe		0.098
478	Kent Benson		0.098
479	Fred Hoiberg		0.098
480	M.L. Carr		0.098
481	Tiny Archibald*		0.098
482	Wesley Matthews		0.098
483	Jeremy Lin		0.098
484	Bob Netolicky		0.098
485	Kenyon Martin		0.098
486	Earl Boykins		0.097
487	Sedale Threatt		0.097
488	Elliot Perry		0.097
489	Michael Smith		0.097
490	Billy Owens		0.097
491	Brevin Knight		0.097
492	Keon Clark		0.097
493	Marvin Webster		0.097
494	Glen Gondrezick		0.097
495	Doug Collins		0.097
496	Kenny Carr		0.097
497	Wesley Person		0.097
498	Jared Dudley		0.097
499	Bill Cartwright		0.097
500	Bonzi Wells		0.097
501	Patrick Patterson		0.097
502	Mike Dunleavy		0.097
503	Danny Fortson		0.097
504	Allen Leavell		0.096
505	Keith Van Horn		0.096
506	Jameer Nelson		0.096
507	Terry Mills		0.096
508	B.J. Armstrong		0.096
509	Thurl Bailey		0.096
510	Dave Greenwood		0.096
511	Mike Miller		0.096
512	Robert Horry		0.096
513	Matt Bonner		0.096
514	Rudy Fernandez		0.096
515	Rick Roberson		0.096
516	Toby Knight		0.096
517	Tom Heinsohn*		0.096
518	Markieff Morris		0.096
519	Damon Stoudamire		0.096
520	Jim Davis		0.096
521	Curtis Perry		0.096
522	Stromile Swift		0.096
523	Jerry Reynolds		0.096
524	Ramon Sessions		0.096
525	Brandon Bass		0.096
526	Chase Budinger		0.096
527	Don Buse		0.096
528	Eddie Johnson		0.096
529	Willie Naulls		0.096
530	Steve Kerr		0.096
531	Hakim Warrick		0.096
532	Otto Moore		0.096
533	Sherman Douglas		0.096
534	Jay Vincent		0.095
535	Steve Smith		0.095
536	Mike Woodson		0.095
537	Bobby Jackson		0.095
538	Jamal Crawford		0.095
539	Kelvin Cato		0.095
540	Nate Robinson		0.095
541	Frank Brickowski		0.095
542	Melvin Turpin		0.095
543	James Silas		0.095
544	Cliff Robinson		0.095
545	T.J. Ford		0.095
546	Richard Jefferson		0.095
547	Greg Anthony		0.095
548	Carlos Delfino		0.095
549	Scott Burrell		0.095
550	Kevin Kunnert		0.095
551	Mel Counts		0.095
552	Darwin Cook		0.095
553	George Johnson		0.095
554	Avery Johnson		0.095
555	Blair Rasmussen		0.095
556	P.J. Brown		0.095
557	Bill Robinzine		0.095
558	Michael Cooper		0.094
559	Gary Grant		0.094
560	Lonnie Shelton		0.094
561	Delonte West		0.094
562	Rudy LaRusso		0.094
563	Willie Anderson		0.094
564	Matt Barnes		0.094
565	Dave Corzine		0.094
566	Mike McGee		0.094
567	Bradley Beal		0.094
568	Steve Johnson		0.094
569	Danny Young		0.094
570	Jason Williams		0.094
571	Joe Smith		0.094
572	Dennis Johnson*		0.093
573	Gar Heard		0.093
574	Clarence Weatherspoon		0.093
575	Campy Russell		0.093
576	Matt Geiger		0.093
577	Mack Calvin		0.093
578	Brendan Haywood		0.093
579	Danny Schayes		0.093
580	Roy Hinson		0.093
581	Darnell Valentine		0.093
582	Tyrone Hill		0.093
583	Walter Dukes		0.093
584	P.J. Tucker		0.093
585	Eddie Griffin		0.093
586	Leroy Ellis		0.093
587	Kyle Korver		0.093
588	Caron Butler		0.093
589	Greg Anderson		0.093
590	Latrell Sprewell		0.093
591	LaPhonso Ellis		0.093
592	Steve Hawes		0.093
593	Ronny Turiaf		0.093
594	Kendall Gill		0.093
595	Raymond Felton		0.093
596	Popeye Jones		0.093
597	Chris Wilcox		0.093
598	Mo Williams		0.092
599	Eric Gordon		0.092
600	Brian Grant		0.092
601	Christian Laettner		0.092
602	Kevin Gamble		0.092
603	Mitchell Wiggins		0.092
604	Tyrus Thomas		0.092
605	Will Perdue		0.092
606	Brian Taylor		0.092
607	Matt Harpring		0.092
608	Spencer Hawes		0.092
609	Tony Allen		0.092
610	C.J. Watson		0.092
611	Herb Williams		0.092
612	Allan Bristow		0.092
613	Ron Anderson		0.092
614	Joel Przybilla		0.092
615	Jamal Mashburn		0.092
616	Terry Catledge		0.092
617	Stacey Augmon		0.092
618	Ryan Gomes		0.092
619	Don Kojis		0.092
620	Chucky Atkins		0.092
621	Darrell Griffith		0.092
622	Junior Bridgeman		0.092
623	Ray Felix		0.092
624	Gary Trent		0.092
625	Randy Smith		0.091
626	Beno Udrih		0.091
627	Austin Croshere		0.091
628	Jodie Meeks		0.091
629	Grant Long		0.091
630	J.J. Redick		0.091
631	Sean Elliott		0.091
632	Clyde Lee		0.091
633	Larry Drew		0.091
634	Alton Lister		0.091
635	Theo Ratliff		0.091
636	Tyrone Corbin		0.091
637	Zaza Pachulia		0.091
638	Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf		0.091
639	Jeff Malone		0.091
640	Tayshaun Prince		0.091
641	Mark Landsberger		0.091
642	Tim Perry		0.091
643	Derrick McKey		0.091
644	Hedo Turkoglu		0.091
645	Scott Wedman		0.091
646	Sam Vincent		0.091
647	Harvey Grant		0.091
648	Walt Wesley		0.091
649	Donnie Freeman		0.091
650	Kelvin Ransey		0.091
651	John Bagley		0.091
652	Erick Dampier		0.090
653	Wilson Chandler		0.090
654	Bob Sura		0.090
655	Randy Breuer		0.090
656	Darrall Imhoff		0.090
657	Ricky Davis		0.090
658	George Lynch		0.090
659	Wayne Cooper		0.090
660	Joe Dumars*		0.090
661	Tyler Hansbrough		0.090
662	Jerry Stackhouse		0.090
663	Howard Porter		0.090
664	George Thompson		0.090
665	Victor Alexander		0.090
666	Pete Maravich*		0.090
667	Shane Battier		0.090
668	Olden Polynice		0.090
669	Curtis Rowe		0.090
670	Boris Diaw		0.089
671	Steve Colter		0.089
672	D.J. Augustin		0.089
673	Kenny Gattison		0.089
674	Toby Kimball		0.089
675	Scott Williams		0.089
676	Jimmy Jones		0.089
677	Eddie Jordan		0.089
678	Jim McMillian		0.089
679	Jack Marin		0.089
680	Paul Griffin		0.089
681	Dennis Scott		0.089
682	Jamaal Tinsley		0.089
683	Derek Strong		0.089
684	Mario Elie		0.089
685	Mike Glenn		0.089
686	Dave Meyers		0.089
687	Glenn Robinson		0.089
688	Chris Kaman		0.089
689	Phil Chenier		0.088
690	Anthony Parker		0.088
691	John Starks		0.088
692	Andrew Toney		0.088
693	Ben Gordon		0.088
694	Robert Pack		0.088
695	Mark West		0.088
696	Dudley Bradley		0.088
697	Rafer Alston		0.088
698	Jamaal Magloire		0.088
699	Kim Hughes		0.088
700	Stephen Jackson		0.088
701	Mike Bantom		0.088
702	Kurt Thomas		0.088
703	Eric Piatkowski		0.088
704	Dave Twardzik		0.088
705	Jim Brewer		0.088
706	Antonio Daniels		0.088
707	Channing Frye		0.087
708	Phil Hubbard		0.087
709	Ben Poquette		0.087
710	Al Harrington		0.087
711	Billy McKinney		0.087
712	Tom Meschery		0.087
713	Mike James		0.087
714	Derek Anderson		0.087
715	Jarrett Jack		0.087
716	Nick Collison		0.087
717	Calvin Murphy*		0.087
718	Eduardo Najera		0.087
719	Phil Smith		0.087
720	Jim Washington		0.087
721	Phil Ford		0.087
722	Todd Day		0.087
723	Louis Orr		0.087
724	Derek Smith		0.087
725	Jeff Green		0.087
726	Dave Gambee		0.087
727	Rodney Rogers		0.087
728	Clem Haskins		0.087
729	Cuttino Mobley		0.087
730	Vincent Askew		0.087
731	Willie Norwood		0.086
732	Marvin Williams		0.086
733	Walt Williams		0.086
734	Larry Hughes		0.086
735	Vladimir Radmanovic		0.086
736	Richard Hamilton		0.086
737	David Wesley		0.086
738	Jim Chones		0.086
739	Brandon Knight		0.086
740	Rodney Stuckey		0.086
741	Kirk Hinrich		0.086
742	Aaron Brooks		0.086
743	Udonis Haslem		0.086
744	Arnie Risen*		0.086
745	Quinn Buckner		0.086
746	Charlie Ward		0.086
747	Rex Chapman		0.086
748	Donald Royal		0.086
749	Quentin Richardson		0.086
750	James Posey		0.086
751	Tony Campbell		0.086
752	Rick Fox		0.086
753	Cazzie Russell		0.086
754	Rick Robey		0.086
755	Al-Farouq Aminu		0.086
756	Al Wood		0.086
757	Foots Walker		0.086
758	Mark Eaton		0.085
759	Matt Bullard		0.085
760	Marquis Daniels		0.085
761	T.R. Dunn		0.085
762	Trent Tucker		0.085
763	Anthony Bowie		0.085
764	Vinny Del Negro		0.085
765	Bobby Phills		0.085
766	Bob Love		0.085
767	John Salley		0.085
768	Jumaine Jones		0.085
769	Damon Jones		0.085
770	Ron Behagen		0.085
771	John Long		0.085
772	Tom Boswell		0.085
773	Duane Ferrell		0.085
774	O.J. Mayo		0.085
775	James Edwards		0.085
776	Luke Ridnour		0.085
777	Andrea Bargnani		0.085
778	Connie Dierking		0.085
779	Kwame Brown		0.085
780	Richard Washington		0.085
781	John Tresvant		0.085
782	Omri Casspi		0.085
783	Bill Keller		0.085
784	Juwan Howard		0.085
785	Alvin Williams		0.085
786	Caldwell Jones		0.085
787	Richard Anderson		0.085
788	Gail Goodrich*		0.085
789	Gerald Green		0.085
790	Bobby Simmons		0.085
791	Earl Monroe*		0.085
792	Jose Barea		0.085
793	Aaron McKie		0.085
794	Rasho Nesterovic		0.085
795	Luke Jackson		0.085
796	Bryon Russell		0.084
797	Jason Thompson		0.084
798	Tim McCormick		0.084
799	Luke Walton		0.084
800	Tony Delk		0.084
801	Kevin Edwards		0.084
802	C.J. Miles		0.084
803	Eddie House		0.084
804	Michael Beasley		0.084
805	Kenny Thomas		0.084
806	Reggie Evans		0.084
807	Clemon Johnson		0.084
808	Lamond Murray		0.084
809	Bryant Stith		0.084
810	Gerald Henderson		0.084
811	Lance Stephenson		0.084
812	Jason Maxiell		0.084
813	Tom Abernethy		0.084
814	Jeff Mullins		0.084
815	Morris Peterson		0.084
816	Antonio Davis		0.084
817	Jalen Rose		0.084
818	Anthony Peeler		0.084
819	Brad Lohaus		0.084
820	Quintin Dailey		0.083
821	Thabo Sefolosha		0.083
822	Lorenzen Wright		0.083
823	Greg Ostertag		0.083
824	Ervin Johnson		0.083
825	Lenny Wilkens*		0.083
826	Adrian Griffin		0.083
827	Louie Dampier		0.083
828	Pete Chilcutt		0.083
829	Brian Winters		0.083
830	Eddy Curry		0.083
831	Nenad Krstic		0.083
832	Lucious Harris		0.083
833	Anthony Bonner		0.083
834	Bob Ferry		0.083
835	Gerald Wilkins		0.083
836	Flynn Robinson		0.083
837	Robert Reid		0.083
838	Vern Mikkelsen*		0.083
839	Joe Meriweather		0.083
840	Tim Thomas		0.082
841	Vernon Maxwell		0.082
842	Voshon Lenard		0.082
843	Alvin Scott		0.082
844	Adonal Foyle		0.082
845	Winston Garland		0.082
846	Alan Henderson		0.082
847	Nate Williams		0.082
848	DeMar DeRozan		0.082
849	Johnny Davis		0.082
850	Antoine Carr		0.082
851	Courtney Lee		0.082
852	Anthony Morrow		0.082
853	Andres Nocioni		0.082
854	Derek Fisher		0.082
855	Dwight Jones		0.082
856	Dave Stallworth		0.082
857	Sidney Green		0.082
858	Cornell Warner		0.082
859	Rick Mahorn		0.082
860	Larry Krystkowiak		0.081
861	Ron Boone		0.081
862	Speedy Claxton		0.081
863	Buck Johnson		0.081
864	Dave Bing*		0.081
865	Mario Chalmers		0.081
866	Jerry Sichting		0.081
867	Malik Sealy		0.081
868	Arron Afflalo		0.081
869	Kenny Walker		0.081
870	Sasha Vujacic		0.081
871	Bob Cousy*		0.081
872	Erick Strickland		0.081
873	Hal Greer*		0.081
874	Fred Roberts		0.081
875	Corey Brewer		0.081
876	Isaiah Rider		0.081
877	John Battle		0.081
878	Dante Cunningham		0.081
879	Allan Houston		0.081
880	Stew Johnson		0.081
881	Shannon Brown		0.081
882	Wilbur Holland		0.081
883	John Paxson		0.081
884	George McCloud		0.081
885	Dick Van Arsdale		0.081
886	Travis Best		0.081
887	Mike O'Koren		0.080
888	Jerry Sloan*		0.080
889	Marco Belinelli		0.080
890	Greivis Vasquez		0.080
891	Jim Jackson		0.080
892	Ralph Simpson		0.080
893	Andrew Lang		0.080
894	Wes Matthews		0.080
895	Chuck Hayes		0.080
896	James Jones		0.080
897	Mark Olberding		0.080
898	Wil Jones		0.080
899	Len Elmore		0.080
900	Richie Guerin*		0.080
901	Corliss Williamson		0.080
902	Malik Rose		0.079
903	Blue Edwards		0.079
904	Archie Clark		0.079
905	John Salmons		0.079
906	Chris Mihm		0.079
907	Butch Beard		0.079
908	Pat Cummings		0.079
909	Shaun Livingston		0.079
910	Mike Dunleavy		0.079
911	Earl Watson		0.079
912	Darius Songaila		0.079
913	Geoff Huston		0.079
914	Glen Davis		0.079
915	Maurice Evans		0.079
916	Luc Mbah a Moute		0.079
917	Jon Sundvold		0.079
918	Bryant Reeves		0.079
919	John Gianelli		0.079
920	Randy Foye		0.079
921	Chucky Brown		0.079
922	Bill Melchionni		0.079
923	Craig Hodges		0.079
924	Ed Ratleff		0.078
925	Tom Gola*		0.078
926	Francisco Garcia		0.078
927	Martell Webster		0.078
928	Tony Battie		0.078
929	Rory Sparrow		0.078
930	Evan Turner		0.078
931	Cliff Levingston		0.078
932	Charlie Scott		0.078
933	Aaron Williams		0.078
934	Mike Gale		0.078
935	Marko Jaric		0.078
936	Brian Skinner		0.078
937	Ernie Grunfeld		0.078
938	Ron Lee		0.077
939	Ledell Eackles		0.077
940	Chris Ford		0.077
941	Freddie Lewis		0.077
942	Nick Weatherspoon		0.077
943	Bimbo Coles		0.077
944	Geoff Petrie		0.077
945	Jim Petersen		0.077
946	Mike Newlin		0.077
947	Darius Miles		0.077
948	Bill Sharman*		0.077
949	Coby Dietrick		0.077
950	John Johnson		0.077

Posted: **Sat May 02, 2015 3:22 am**

GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL-TIME LIST
*Determined by each individual players average ranking from the first two list.

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1	Michael Jordan*
2	Wilt Chamberlain*
3	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*
4	Hakeem Olajuwon*
5	LeBron James
6	Shaquille O'Neal
7	Magic Johnson*
8	Karl Malone*
9	Tim Duncan
10	Charles Barkley*
11	Bill Russell*
12	David Robinson*
13	John Stockton*
14	Kevin Garnett
15	Larry Bird*
16	Moses Malone*
17	Julius Erving*
18	Dirk Nowitzki
19	Clyde Drexler*
20	Kobe Bryant
21	Artis Gilmore*
22	Bob Pettit*
23	Oscar Robertson*
24	Walt Bellamy*
25	Dominique Wilkins*
26	Bob Lanier*
27	Patrick Ewing*
28	Elgin Baylor*
29	Dwyane Wade
30	Dan Issel*
31	Robert Parish*
32	Dwight Howard
33	Pau Gasol
34	Larry Nance
35	Jason Kidd
36	Alex English*
37	Jerry Lucas*
38	Adrian Dantley*
39	Chris Paul
40	Shawn Marion
41	Elvin Hayes*
42	Steve Nash
43	Kevin McHale*
44	Kevin Durant
45	Scottie Pippen*
46	Bob McAdoo*
47	Jerry West*
48	Paul Pierce
49	Kevin Johnson
50	Tracy McGrady
51	Elton Brand
52	Chris Mullin*
53	George Gervin*
54	Gary Payton*
55	Terry Porter
56	Allen Iverson
57	Wes Unseld*
58	Chris Bosh
59	Marques Johnson
60	Amar'e Stoudemire
61	Manu Ginobili
62	Reggie Miller*
63	Fat Lever
64	Nate Thurmond*
65	Vince Carter
66	Bailey Howell*
67	Maurice Cheeks
68	Jeff Hornacek
69	James Worthy*
70	Bobby Jones
71	Carmelo Anthony
72	Dikembe Mutombo
73	Isiah Thomas*
74	Dolph Schayes*
75	Terry Cummings
76	Alonzo Mourning*
77	Vlade Divac
78	Shawn Kemp
79	Carlos Boozer
80	Jack Sikma
81	Spencer Haywood*
82	Willis Reed*
83	Dave Cowens*
84	Rick Barry*
85	Ray Allen
86	Ben Wallace
87	Al Jefferson
88	Gus Williams
89	Chris Webber
90	Tim Hardaway
91	Chauncey Billups
92	Sidney Moncrief
93	Walter Davis
94	Horace Grant
95	Alvan Adams
96	Mark Price
97	Grant Hill
98	Buck Williams
99	Marcus Camby
100	Rod Strickland
101	Bill Laimbeer
102	Mookie Blaylock
103	Billy Cunningham*
104	Mark Jackson
105	Alvin Robertson
106	David West
107	Zach Randolph
108	Zelmo Beaty
109	Brad Daugherty
110	George McGinnis
111	Russell Westbrook
112	LaMarcus Aldridge
113	Dennis Rodman*
114	Anfernee Hardaway
115	Andrei Kirilenko
116	David Lee
117	Kiki Vandeweghe
118	Otis Thorpe
119	Baron Davis
120	Hersey Hawkins
121	Detlef Schrempf
122	Bernard King*
123	Deron Williams
124	John Drew
125	Tony Parker
126	Andre Iguodala
127	Antawn Jamison
128	Dan Roundfield
129	Johnny Green
130	Paul Millsap
131	Derrick Coleman
132	Mark Aguirre
133	Kevin Love
134	Josh Smith
135	Terrell Brandon
136	Andre Miller
137	Peja Stojakovic
138	Stephen Curry
139	Mitch Richmond*
140	Eddie Jones
141	Happy Hairston
142	Rashard Lewis
143	Chet Walker*
144	James Harden
145	Derek Harper
146	Rasheed Wallace
147	Neil Johnston*
148	Walt Frazier*
149	Sam Cassell
150	Sam Perkins
151	Michael Adams
152	A.C. Green
153	Tyson Chandler
154	Calvin Natt
155	Yao Ming
156	Al Horford
157	Blake Griffin
158	Shareef Abdur-Rahim
159	Billy Knight
160	Doc Rivers
161	Brad Miller
162	Jamaal Wilkes*
163	Lamar Odom
164	David Thompson*
165	Rajon Rondo
166	Clifford Ray
167	Rudy Tomjanovich
168	Cedric Maxwell
169	Jason Terry
170	Hot Rod Williams
171	Kevin Willis
172	Clyde Lovellette*
173	Larry Kenon
174	Nick Anderson
175	Dale Ellis
176	Stephon Marbury
177	Cliff Hagan*
178	Ron Harper
179	Mike Gminski
180	Red Kerr
181	Jerome Kersey
182	Bill Walton*
183	Muggsy Bogues
184	George Mikan*
185	Swen Nater
186	Joakim Noah
187	Paul Westphal
188	Jason Richardson
189	Donyell Marshall
190	Gerald Wallace
191	Michael Redd
192	Byron Scott
193	Rolando Blackman
194	John Havlicek*
195	Dale Davis
196	Micheal Ray Richardson
197	Larry Johnson
198	Marc Gasol
199	Jermaine O'Neal
200	Michael Cage
201	Billy Paultz
202	Danny Manning
203	Rickey Green
204	Paul Silas
205	Armen Gilliam
206	Mike Bibby
207	Toni Kukoc
208	Antonio McDyess
209	Maurice Lucas
210	Charles Oakley
211	Luol Deng
212	Nene Hilario
213	Bill Bridges
214	Mychal Thompson
215	Antoine Walker
216	Michael Finley
217	Zydrunas Ilgauskas
218	Tom Chambers
219	Dave DeBusschere*
220	Dan Majerle
221	Joe Johnson
222	Kevin Martin
223	Ricky Pierce
224	Mickey Johnson
225	Elmore Smith
226	Danny Ainge
227	Anthony Mason
228	Gilbert Arenas
229	Sam Lacey
230	Reggie Theus
231	Greg Ballard
232	Bob Dandridge
233	Sleepy Floyd
234	Steve Mix
235	Tom Gugliotta
236	Rodney McCray
237	Clifford Robinson
238	Nate McMillan
239	Bob Boozer
240	Kenny Anderson
241	Dave Robisch
242	Paul Pressey
243	Eddie Johnson
244	Glen Rice
245	Jose Calderon
246	Johnny Moore
247	Sidney Wicks
248	Mel Daniels*
249	Fred Brown
250	Harry Gallatin*
251	Emeka Okafor
252	Monta Ellis
253	John Lucas
254	Lou Hudson
255	Xavier McDaniel
256	Paul Arizin*
257	Mike Mitchell
258	Mehmet Okur
259	DeMarcus Cousins
260	Darrell Armstrong
261	World B. Free
262	Danny Granger
263	Sam Jones*
264	Nick Van Exel
265	Brent Barry
266	James Donaldson
267	Rik Smits
268	DeAndre Jordan
269	Greg Monroe
270	Andrew Bogut
271	Brook Lopez
272	Rudy Gay
273	Steve Francis
274	Metta World Peace
275	Troy Murphy
276	Thaddeus Young
277	Kyle Lowry
278	Serge Ibaka
279	Tiny Archibald*
280	Norm Nixon
281	Connie Hawkins*
282	Ty Lawson
283	Kenny Smith
284	Cedric Ceballos
285	Orlando Woolridge
286	Mike Conley
287	Dennis Johnson*
288	Joe Barry Carroll
289	Dana Barros
290	Reggie Lewis
291	Vern Fleming
292	Doug Christie
293	Willie Wise
294	Jeff Ruland
295	Truck Robinson
296	Marcin Gortat
297	Elden Campbell
298	Robert Horry
299	Kenny Sears
300	Terry Tyler
301	Ed Macauley*
302	Jim Paxson
303	Derrick Rose
304	P.J. Brown
305	Chuck Share
306	Kawhi Leonard
307	Bill Cartwright
308	Richard Jefferson
309	Jamal Crawford
310	Vin Baker
311	Loy Vaught
312	Ray Williams
313	Kerry Kittles
314	Purvis Short
315	Latrell Sprewell
316	Vinnie Johnson
317	Otis Birdsong
318	Dell Curry
319	Larry Smith
320	Ralph Sampson*
321	Wayman Tisdale
322	Jack Twyman*
323	John Wall
324	Brandon Roy
325	Kelly Tripucka
326	Andrew Bynum
327	Steve Smith
328	Larry Foust
329	Jim Fox
330	Damon Stoudamire
331	Micheal Williams
332	Ed Pinckney
333	Ray Scott
334	Rich Kelley
335	Tom Owens
336	Don Nelson*
337	George Yardley*
338	Samuel Dalembert
339	Goose Ligon
340	Benoit Benjamin
341	Drew Gooden
342	Corey Maggette
343	Gus Johnson*
344	Luis Scola
345	Kenyon Martin
346	Mike Dunleavy
347	Thurl Bailey
348	Wayne Embry*
349	Jay Humphries
350	Kyrie Irving
351	Joe Dumars*
352	Rony Seikaly
353	Eric Murdock
354	Michael Cooper
355	Tom Boerwinkle
356	Mike Miller
357	Paul George
358	J.R. Smith
359	Avery Johnson
360	Tayshaun Prince
361	Kendall Gill
362	Rudy LaRusso
363	Randy Smith
364	Trevor Ariza
365	Craig Ehlo
366	Neal Walk
367	LaSalle Thompson
368	Kermit Washington
369	Bob Kauffman
370	Spud Webb
371	Louis Williams
372	Mike Lewis
373	Leroy Ellis
374	Brad Davis
375	Andre Drummond
376	Ken Norman
377	Tree Rollins
378	Caron Butler
379	Bob Rule
380	Dave Greenwood
381	Bo Outlaw
382	Pooh Richardson
383	Josh Howard
384	Sedale Threatt
385	Clarence Weatherspoon
386	Brandon Jennings
387	Chris Morris
388	Kenneth Faried
389	George Johnson
390	Damian Lillard
391	Devin Harris
392	Joe Smith
393	Red Robbins
394	Shane Battier
395	Nicolas Batum
396	Jeff Malone
397	Ruben Patterson
398	Tom Heinsohn*
399	Don Buse
400	Lester Conner
401	Roy Tarpley
402	Derrick McKey
403	Grant Long
404	Jameer Nelson
405	Shawn Bradley
406	Tyrone Corbin
407	Darrell Walker
408	Gene Banks
409	Wally Szczerbiak
410	Jerome Williams
411	Christian Laettner
412	Kurt Rambis
413	Hedo Turkoglu
414	Wesley Person
415	Charles Smith
416	Calvin Murphy*
417	Jerry Stackhouse
418	Roger Brown*
419	Darryl Dawkins
420	Clark Kellogg
421	Jason Williams
422	Sean Elliott
423	Herb Williams
424	Terry Dischinger
425	Raef LaFrentz
426	Tyreke Evans
427	Willie Naulls
428	Nikola Vucevic
429	David Wesley
430	Ryan Anderson
431	Richard Hamilton
432	Ersan Ilyasova
433	Jeff Teague
434	Boris Diaw
435	Keith Van Horn
436	Scott Wedman
437	Arvydas Sabonis*
438	Jim Eakins
439	Caldwell Jones
440	James Silas
441	Raymond Felton
442	Steve Stipanovich
443	Leandro Barbosa
444	Mo Williams
445	Mack Calvin
446	Stephen Jackson
447	John Shumate
448	Kyle Korver
449	Lenny Wilkens*
450	Juwan Howard
451	Dee Brown
452	Gail Goodrich*
453	Gar Heard
454	Sherman Douglas
455	Roy Hibbert
456	Jeff Foster
457	Andris Biedrins
458	Scott Skiles
459	Tyrone Hill
460	Zaid Abdul-Aziz
461	Gordon Hayward
462	B.J. Armstrong
463	Mike Woodson
464	Chris Gatling
465	George Hill
466	Kyle Macy
467	Maurice Stokes*
468	Brian Grant
469	Derrick Favors
470	Al Harrington
471	Chris Andersen
472	Hal Greer*
473	Dave Corzine
474	Kenny Carr
475	Cliff Robinson
476	Pete Maravich*
477	Glenn Robinson
478	Tom Burleson
479	Olden Polynice
480	Darrell Griffith
481	Jamal Mashburn
482	Billy Owens
483	John Starks
484	Johnny Dawkins
485	Brevin Knight
486	Jack Marin
487	Lloyd Neal
488	Darren Collison
489	Anderson Varejao
490	Goran Dragic
491	Cuttino Mobley
492	Lionel Simmons
493	Danny Green
494	Isaiah Thomas
495	Kurt Thomas
496	Lonnie Shelton
497	Rod Higgins
498	J.J. Hickson
499	Earl Monroe*
500	Erick Dampier
501	Marvin Barnes
502	Allen Leavell
503	Danny Schayes
504	Andray Blatche
505	Brendan Haywood
506	Charlie Villanueva
507	Junior Bridgeman
508	Danilo Gallinari
509	Kent Benson
510	Nikola Pekovic
511	Otto Moore
512	Jrue Holiday
513	Pervis Ellison
514	Jimmy Butler
515	Wesley Matthews
516	Reggie Williams
517	Clyde Lee
518	Kemba Walker
519	Kirk Hinrich
520	Amir Johnson
521	Ronnie Brewer
522	Sam Bowie
523	Bob Cousy*
524	Derek Fisher
525	Kris Humphries
526	M.L. Carr
527	Tom Meschery
528	Chandler Parsons
529	Robin Lopez
530	James Edwards
531	Jim McMillian
532	Gerald Henderson
533	Mark Eaton
534	Matt Barnes
535	Chris Whitney
536	Dave Bing*
537	Tiago Splitter
538	Bob Netolicky
539	Bobby Jackson
540	John Block
541	Jared Dudley
542	Klay Thompson
543	Oliver Miller
544	Bob Love
545	JaVale McGee
546	Dorell Wright
547	Jalen Rose
548	Stacey Augmon
549	Bonzi Wells
550	Jay Vincent
551	Jim Washington
552	Terry Mills
553	John Williams
554	Jon Barry
555	Brian Taylor
556	Sonny Parker
557	Frank Brickowski
558	Theo Ratliff
559	Lewis Lloyd
560	Rick Fox
561	Campy Russell
562	Dick Van Arsdale
563	Don Kojis
564	Jim Chones
565	Ricky Davis
566	Carl Landry
567	LaPhonso Ellis
568	Bob Gross
569	Larry Jones
570	Louie Dampier
571	Curtis Perry
572	Mario Elie
573	Marvin Webster
574	Greg Anthony
575	Harvey Grant
576	Nazr Mohammed
577	Larry Drew
578	Antonio Davis
579	Jarrett Jack
580	Ben Gordon
581	James Posey
582	Doug Collins
583	Steve Kerr
584	Wayne Cooper
585	Larry Hughes
586	Brandon Bass
587	Reggie King
588	Ed Davis
589	Rodney Rogers
590	Alton Lister
591	Roy Hinson
592	Willie Anderson
593	Mike Bantom
594	Phil Chenier
595	Robert Reid
596	Allan Houston
597	Gheorghe Muresan
598	Udonis Haslem
599	Cazzie Russell
600	Matt Harpring
601	Chucky Atkins
602	Curtis Rowe
603	Darwin Cook
604	Ron Boone
605	Rafer Alston
606	Gerald Wilkins
607	Jeff Mullins
608	Phil Smith
609	Darnell Valentine
610	Len Chappell
611	Mark West
612	Marvin Williams
613	Ramon Sessions
614	Jim Jackson
615	Eric Bledsoe
616	T.R. Dunn
617	Mitch Kupchak
618	Josh Childress
619	Darrall Imhoff
620	John Long
621	Nate Robinson
622	Ray Felix
623	Dennis Scott
624	Vern Mikkelsen*
625	George Lynch
626	Dino Radja
627	Taj Gibson
628	Jayson Williams
629	Marcus Thornton
630	Luke Ridnour
631	John Bagley
632	Kevin Gamble
633	Quentin Richardson
634	Steve Hawes
635	Nick Collison
636	Walter Dukes
637	Chris Kaman
638	Zaza Pachulia
639	Mel Counts
640	Anthony Davis
641	Antonio Daniels
642	Richie Guerin*
643	Beno Udrih
644	Jerry Sloan*
645	Derek Anderson
646	Steve Johnson
647	Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
648	Rex Chapman
649	Bryon Russell
650	Jeff Green
651	Jimmy Jones
652	Mike Green
653	Rick Mahorn
654	Otis Smith
655	Vernon Maxwell
656	Bison Dele
657	Ron Anderson
658	Vinny Del Negro
659	Walt Williams
660	Donnie Freeman
661	Michael Brooks
662	Tristan Thompson
663	Archie Clark
664	Terry Catledge
665	Aaron McKie
666	Drazen Petrovic*
667	Greg Anderson
668	Johnny Davis
669	Spencer Hawes
670	Brian Winters
671	Charlie Scott
672	Mark Olberding
673	Channing Frye
674	Earl Boykins
675	Sarunas Marciulionis*
676	Ricky Rubio
677	Jo Jo White*
678	John Salley
679	Delonte West
680	Tracy Murray
681	Clem Haskins
682	Jim Brewer
683	John Johnson
684	Anthony Peeler
685	Bob Sura
686	Tim Thomas
687	Manny Leaks
688	T.J. Ford
689	Blair Rasmussen
690	Eric Gordon
691	J.J. Redick
692	Morris Peterson
693	Michael Smith
694	Phil Hubbard
695	Matt Bonner
696	Omer Asik
697	Johnny Newman
698	Matt Geiger
699	Allan Bristow
700	Kevin Kunnert
701	Rasho Nesterovic
702	Bill Robinzine
703	John Salmons
704	Tom Gola*
705	Enes Kanter
706	Tony Allen
707	Quinn Buckner
708	Gary Grant
709	Mike Newlin
710	Wilson Chandler
711	Carlos Delfino
712	Warren Jabali
713	Will Perdue
714	Jamaal Tinsley
715	Jim Davis
716	Andrew Toney
717	Rodney Stuckey
718	George Thompson
719	O.J. Mayo
720	Anthony Parker
721	Antoine Carr
722	Chuck Person
723	Joe Caldwell
724	Rick Roberson
725	Wil Jones
726	Trent Tucker
727	D.J. Augustin
728	Chris Ford
729	Rory Sparrow
730	Popeye Jones
731	Kenny Thomas
732	Lorenzen Wright
733	Ben Poquette
734	Lamond Murray
735	Scott Brooks
736	Dick Barnett
737	Kelvin Ransey
738	Andrea Bargnani
739	Bill Sharman*
740	Foots Walker
741	Hakim Warrick
742	Stromile Swift
743	Vladimir Radmanovic
744	Dick Snyder
745	Ervin Johnson
746	Freddie Lewis
747	Randy Breuer
748	John Paxson
749	Ricky Sobers
750	Isaiah Rider
751	C.J. Watson
752	Phil Ford
753	Charlie Ward
754	Tony Campbell
755	Dave Gambee
756	Arnie Risen*
757	Louis Orr
758	Ryan Gomes
759	Ralph Simpson
760	Dwight Jones
761	Blue Edwards
762	Luke Jackson
763	Mike James
764	Jamaal Magloire
765	Jeremy Lin
766	DeMarre Carroll
767	Corliss Williamson
768	Mario Chalmers
769	Brian Shaw
770	Connie Dierking
771	Mike McGee
772	Earl Watson
773	Marreese Speights
774	Bingo Smith
775	Eric Snow
776	Danny Young
777	Lindsey Hunter
778	Bryant Stith
779	Keon Clark
780	Glen Gondrezick
781	Jason Thompson
782	Harold Pressley
783	Jack Coleman
784	Markieff Morris
785	Fred Hoiberg
786	Tom Sanders*
787	Kelvin Cato
788	DeMar DeRozan
789	Lucius Allen
790	Jerry Reynolds
791	Todd Day
792	Sam Mitchell
793	Austin Croshere
794	Elliot Perry
795	Steve Blake
796	Norm Van Lier
797	Bobby Phills
798	Jodie Meeks
799	George McCloud
800	Voshon Lenard
801	Gary Trent
802	Lucious Harris
803	Eric Piatkowski
804	Nate Williams
805	Jimmy Walker
806	Tom Van Arsdale
807	Joe Meriweather
808	Thabo Sefolosha
809	Adam Keefe
810	Patrick Patterson
811	Trevor Booker
812	Greg Ostertag
813	Kevin Edwards
814	Arron Afflalo
815	Bimbo Coles
816	John Tresvant
817	Courtney Lee
818	Damon Jones
819	Jamario Moon
820	Randy Foye
821	Chris Wilcox
822	Austin Carr
823	Kevin Porter
824	Reggie Evans
825	Toby Kimball
826	Mike Gale
827	Toby Knight
828	Raja Bell
829	Winston Garland
830	Aaron Brooks
831	Tony Battie
832	Joel Przybilla
833	Danny Fortson
834	Eddy Curry
835	Geoff Petrie
836	Mitchell Wiggins
837	Melvin Turpin
838	Dave Twardzik
839	Craig Hodges
840	Fred Roberts
841	Darnell Hillman
842	Robert Pack
843	Guy Rodgers*
844	Kenny Gattison
845	Corey Brewer
846	Butch Beard
847	Cliff Levingston
848	Howard Porter
849	Walt Wesley
850	Bill Keller
851	Alvin Williams
852	Paul Griffin
853	Jon McGlocklin
854	Steve Colter
855	Bradley Beal
856	Clemon Johnson
857	Lionel Hollins
858	Travis Best
859	Chase Budinger
860	Bruce Bowen
861	Kevin Duckworth
862	Gerald Govan
863	Andrew Lang
864	Bob Ferry
865	P.J. Tucker
866	Jose Barea
867	Rudy Fernandez
868	Scott Williams
869	Derek Smith
870	Quintin Dailey
871	C.J. Miles
872	Tim Perry
873	Eddie Griffin
874	Francisco Garcia
875	Pat Cummings
876	Eduardo Najera
877	Scott Burrell
878	Alan Henderson
879	Flynn Robinson
880	Jim Barnett
881	Desmond Mason
882	John Gianelli
883	Dudley Bradley
884	Brandon Knight
885	Frank Ramsey*
886	Dave Meyers
887	Martell Webster
888	Bobby Simmons
889	Kendrick Perkins
890	George Carter
891	Sidney Green
892	Danny Ferry
893	Billy McKinney
894	Ernie Grunfeld
895	Sam Vincent
896	Ollie Johnson
897	Gene Shue
898	Andres Nocioni
899	Don Chaney
900	Eddie Jordan
901	Michael Beasley
902	Tyrus Thomas
903	Mike Glenn
904	Ronny Turiaf
905	Tim McCormick
906	Ron Behagen
907	Larry Costello
908	Calbert Cheaney
909	Alvin Scott
910	Vincent Askew
911	Cornell Warner
912	Terry Teagle
913	Bill Hanzlik
914	Kwame Brown
915	Jumaine Jones
916	Dave Stallworth
917	Al-Farouq Aminu
918	Marquis Daniels
919	Stew Johnson
920	Al Wood
921	Jerry Sichting
922	Anthony Morrow
923	Charles Jones
924	Jason Maxiell
925	Tony Delk
926	Tyler Hansbrough
927	Eddie House
928	Joe Graboski
929	Mark Landsberger
930	Adonal Foyle
931	Tom Henderson
932	Marco Belinelli
933	Coby Dietrick
934	Hubert Davis
935	Malik Rose
936	Nenad Krstic
937	Tom Hawkins
938	Bryant Reeves
939	Kim Hughes
940	Mel Hutchins
941	Luc Mbah a Moute
942	Buck Johnson
943	Evan Turner
944	Shaun Livingston
945	Don Ohl
946	J.R. Reid
947	Victor Alexander
948	Mahdi Abdul-Rahman
949	Derek Strong
950	Anthony Bowie
951	Geoff Huston
952	Malik Sealy
953	Shandon Anderson
954	Jon Koncak
955	Chris Mills
956	Maurice Evans
957	Mark Blount
958	Larry Steele
959	Bill Melchionni
960	Keith Erickson
961	Bill Bradley*
962	Mickael Pietrus
963	Rich Jones
964	Darius Miles
965	Julius Keye
966	Jeff McInnis
967	Nick Young
968	Omri Casspi
969	Randy Wittman
970	Ron Brewer
971	Jim Cleamons
972	Brad Lohaus
973	Stu Lantz
974	Phil Jackson*
975	Chris Duhon
976	Frank Johnson
977	Richard Washington
978	Lance Stephenson
979	Matt Bullard
980	Marko Jaric
981	Glen Davis
982	Greg Smith
983	Rick Robey
984	Chuck Hayes
985	Chris Dudley
986	Kurt Nimphius
987	Chucky Brown
988	Kevin Loughery
989	Duane Ferrell
990	Fred Carter
991	Albert King
992	Kevin Grevey
993	Aaron Williams
994	Eric Williams
995	Willie Norwood
996	Travis Outlaw
997	John Mengelt
998	Tom Boswell
999	John Battle
1000	Speedy Claxton

Posted: **Sat May 02, 2015 11:24 am**

Beno Udrih (643) is ranked between Jerry Sloan and Richie Guerin (HOF members) ?

Bird ranks 8 spots below Magic? These 2 should be about even.

Have you placed extra weight on playoffs?

Do you make any adjustment for strength of ABA?

(You may have answered these before, but when you make new threads, the conversation is lost.)

Is the 2014-15 RS included?

Posted: **Sat May 02, 2015 2:51 pm**

Mike G wrote:Beno Udrih (643) is ranked between Jerry Sloan and Richie Guerin (HOF members) ?

Bird ranks 8 spots below Magic? These 2 should be about even.

Have you placed extra weight on playoffs?

Do you make any adjustment for strength of ABA?

(You may have answered these before, but when you make new threads, the conversation is lost.)

Is the 2014-15 RS included?

2015 REG is include, and I'll update the lists at the conclusion of the 2015 finals.

Udrih receives additional pts in my rankings for playing in an era over the last ten years where the guard competition is much higher than the quality btw 1950 - 1980.

Bird vs Magic breakdown (Bottom years represent playoff values)

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Magic Johnson*		1996			3.75							
Magic Johnson*		1991			15.40							
Magic Johnson*		1991			3.57		
Magic Johnson*		1990			16.75	  
Magic Johnson*		1990			1.74		
Magic Johnson*		1989			16.85     
Magic Johnson*		1989			2.38		
Magic Johnson*		1988			12.62	  Larry Bird*		1988			16.87
Magic Johnson*		1988			4.19		Larry Bird*		1988			2.93
Magic Johnson*		1987			16.98	  Larry Bird*		1987			16.58
Magic Johnson*		1987			3.81		Larry Bird*		1987			4.37
Magic Johnson*		1986			13.19	  Larry Bird*		1986			17.09
Magic Johnson*		1986			3.00		Larry Bird*		1986			3.95
Magic Johnson*		1985			14.08	  Larry Bird*		1985			17.51
Magic Johnson*		1985			3.51		Larry Bird*		1985			3.41
Magic Johnson*		1984			12.83	  Larry Bird*		1984			14.80
Magic Johnson*		1984			3.83		Larry Bird*		1984			4.83
Magic Johnson*		1983			14.58     Larry Bird*		1983			14.79
Magic Johnson*		1983			2.69		Larry Bird*		1983			0.91
Magic Johnson*		1982			15.45	  Larry Bird*		1982			13.45
Magic Johnson*		1982			2.72	   Larry Bird*		1982			1.55
							                      Larry Bird*		1981			12.83
Magic Johnson*		1981			7.44		Larry Bird*		1981			2.97
Magic Johnson*		1980			12.31	  Larry Bird*		1980			12.60
Magic Johnson*		1980			3.01		Larry Bird*		1980			1.13

Better overall years (including playoffs)

1996 - Magic

Posted: **Sat May 02, 2015 4:31 pm**

Yes, one would figure you are saying Magic was better than Bird. Yet other metrics rank them quite even.
Rather than dwell on a specific example or 2, how about these other inquiries:
- playoff weight?
- strength of ABA?

Posted: **Sat May 02, 2015 9:23 pm**

Mike G wrote:Beno Udrih (643) is ranked between Jerry Sloan and Richie Guerin (HOF members) ?

Bird ranks 8 spots below Magic? These 2 should be about even.

Have you placed extra weight on playoffs?

Do you make any adjustment for strength of ABA?

(You may have answered these before, but when you make new threads, the conversation is lost.)

Is the 2014-15 RS included?

2015 REG is include, and I'll update the lists at the conclusion of the 2015 finals.

Udrih receives additional pts in my rankings for playing in an era over the last ten years where the guard competition is much higher than the quality btw 1950 - 1980.

Bird vs Magic breakdown (Bottom years represent playoff values)

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Magic Johnson*		1996			3.75		Larry Bird*		1992			7.06
Magic Johnson*		1991			15.40	  Larry Bird*		1991			9.11
Magic Johnson*		1991			3.57		Larry Bird*		1991			1.12
Magic Johnson*		1990			16.75	  Larry Bird*		1990			13.17
Magic Johnson*		1990			1.74							
Magic Johnson*		1989			16.85							
Magic Johnson*		1989			2.38							
Magic Johnson*		1988			12.62	  Larry Bird*		1988			16.87
Magic Johnson*		1988			4.19		Larry Bird*		1988			2.93
Magic Johnson*		1987			16.98	  Larry Bird*		1987			16.58
Magic Johnson*		1987			3.81		Larry Bird*		1987			4.37
Magic Johnson*		1986			13.19	  Larry Bird*		1986			17.09
Magic Johnson*		1986			3.00		Larry Bird*		1986			3.95
Magic Johnson*		1985			14.08	  Larry Bird*		1985			17.51
Magic Johnson*		1985			3.51		Larry Bird*		1985			3.41
Magic Johnson*		1984			12.83	  Larry Bird*		1984			14.80
Magic Johnson*		1984			3.83		Larry Bird*		1984			4.83
Magic Johnson*		1983			14.58	  Larry Bird*		1983			14.79
Magic Johnson*		1983			2.69		Larry Bird*		1983			0.91
Magic Johnson*		1982			15.45	  Larry Bird*		1982			13.45
Magic Johnson*		1982	      2.72      Larry Bird*		1982			1.55
                                           Larry Bird*		1981			12.83
Magic Johnson*		1981			7.44		Larry Bird*		1981			2.97
Magic Johnson*		1980			12.31	  Larry Bird*		1980			12.60
Magic Johnson*		1980			3.01		Larry Bird*		1980			1.13

Better overall years (including playoffs)
(+) = Wins over

1996 - Magic (+3.75)
1992 - Bird (+7.06)
1991 - Magic (+8.74)
1990 - Magic (+5.32)
1989 - Magic (+19.22)
1988 - Bird (+2.98)
1987 - Bird (+.16)
1986 - Bird (+4.86)
1985 - Bird (+3.33)
1984 - Bird (+2.97)
1983 - Magic (+1.56)
1982 - Magic (+3.17)
1981 - Bird (+8.37)
1980 - Magic (+1.58)

Bird played 7 seasons better than Magic. Magic played 7 seasons better than Bird.

From the 1988-89 season onward Magic gains a total of 30 wins (or what I called value shares) over Bird. Prior to the 1988-89 seasons Bird topped Magic by almost 16 and one half wins.

Magic v. Bird Value per minutes played breakdowns (including playoffs):

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Magic Johnson*		1996		0.141				Larry Bird*		1992		0.153
Magic Johnson*		1991		0.182				Larry Bird*		1991		0.138
Magic Johnson*		1990		0.201				Larry Bird*		1990		0.161
Magic Johnson*		1989		0.203								
Magic Johnson*		1988		0.168				Larry Bird*		1988		0.191
Magic Johnson*		1987		0.210				Larry Bird*		1987		0.188
Magic Johnson*		1986		0.187				Larry Bird*		1986		0.195
Magic Johnson*		1985		0.183				Larry Bird*		1985		0.189
Magic Johnson*		1984		0.176				Larry Bird*		1984		0.177
Magic Johnson*		1983		0.175				Larry Bird*		1983		0.175
Magic Johnson*		1982		0.184				Larry Bird*		1982		0.158
Magic Johnson*		1981		0.195				Larry Bird*		1981		0.143
Magic Johnson*		1980		0.160				Larry Bird*		1980		0.138

Better overall years (including playoffs)
(+) = Wins over

1996 - Magic (+14.1%)
1992 - Bird (+15.3%)
1991 - Magic (+4.4%)
1990 - Magic (4.0%)
1989 - Magic (+20.3%)
1988 - Bird (+2.3%)
1987 - Magic (+2.2%)
1986 - Bird (+0.8%)
1985 - Bird (+0.7%)
1984 - Bird (+0.1%)
1983 - Equaled
1982 - Magic (+2.6%)
1981 - Magic (+5.3%)
1980 - Magic (+2.2%)

Magic was the better player through their careers.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 7:03 pm**

Mike G wrote:Yes, one would figure you are saying Magic was better than Bird. Yet other metrics rank them quite even.

My regular season career WAR since 1980 has them 13th (Bird) & 14th (Magic) at 223 & 219. http://hoopsnerd.com/?page_id=460

Reminds me how I really need to do my playoff WAR & all seasons prior to 1980.

Posted: **Wed May 06, 2015 6:06 pm**

Reminds me how I really need to do my playoff WAR & all seasons prior to 1980.

I've long awaited your playoff WAR numbers, and how you will weigh factors like strength of defenses, leverage of importance to each round and each game, etc..
Would also love to see how guys like Kareem, Wilt, Bill Russell, Oscar fair, as well as if you're metric is also one that states that Cousy was overrated.
Have you finished 2014-15, yet?

Posted: **Thu May 07, 2015 3:42 am**

Mike G wrote:Yes, one would figure you are saying Magic was better than Bird. Yet other metrics rank them quite even.
Rather than dwell on a specific example or 2, how about these other inquiries:
- playoff weight?
- strength of ABA?

I disagree with metrics that rank Bird and Magic even. I think Bird carried the slight advantage early through mid 80s. Magic clearly broke away from Bird later in their careers as most of my work shows.

I didn't feel the need to weigh playoff games heavier. Here why,

In 1983 Jack Sikma outperforms George Gervin in the RS.
Sikma (10.04)
Gervin (9.62)

However Sikma didn't qualify in my 1983 playoff wins list and Gervin was one of the top performers in the '83 w/ a (1.23) score.

Gervin finishes the '83 season (RS, PS) with (10.85) points attributed to his all-time score, Sikma remains at (10.04). Gervin, in my rankings, outperforms Sikma in '83 off of his playoff bonus.

I did a slight adjustment for the ABA 1970 - termination, by adjusting it to 1960s LQ. I basically ignored the 1960s ABA. The 1970 - 1976 ABA was I think competitive enough to be compared with the NBA. If you check the per36 stats on players like Issel, McGinnis, Maurice Lucas, Bobby Jones, Zelmo Beaty, had seamless transitions either way.

Moving from ABA to NBA, Erving took a slight hit, Gilmore slightly more, but Gervin, Larry Kenon, Moses Malone, Billy Cunningham, and Rick Barry performed better playing NBA competition than against ABA opponents.

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