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Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:20 pm
by Mike G
Yesterday in the Hou 113-109 OKC game, the Thunder were +14 when Westbrook was on the floor, thus -18 in the 9 minutes he was resting. That's -2 points per minute.
For the series (4 G), they're +3 when he plays and -40 when he sits, just -1 Pt/Min
Rockets meanwhile have been a bit better when Harden rests.
In the Spurs' overtime loss to the Grizz in game 4, Kawhi Leonard's 44 minutes netted +18 on the scoreboard.
In their 9 minutes without him, they lost 20 points to Memphis.
The Bucks' Greg Monroe seems to be enjoying his first postseason, after 15,955 career regular-season minutes.
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Mil'17PO mpg PER WS/48 BPM e480
Giannis 39 19.1 .129 6.2 2.34
Middleton 38 12.2 .113 1.1 1.28
Brogdon 32 5.9 .021 -1.5 .52
Snell 30 14.0 .211 4.8 .90
Delly 26 5.5 .047 -3.2 -.02
Monroe 24 31.0 .377 11.0 3.14
Those 5 with more minutes are all G and SF. Maybe because he's the only C on the team, he fills a void?
He doesn't seem to qualify for the playoff leader boards at b-r.com. If he did, he'd be
1st in PER, WS/48, and BPM.
As is, he's 4th in Win Shares and 9th in VORP.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:12 pm
by Mike G
After 4 games for everyone (5 for Tor/Mil), here's a composite leaderboard.
After scaling avg VORP to Win Shares (1.95 multiplier), xyz is the average of these per-game rates.
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.xyz per game tm mpg eWin 2vorp WS
.310 Kawhi Leonard SAS 37 .275 .308 .348
.273 Chris Paul LAC 36 .219 .338 .262
.242 LeBron James Cle 44 .254 .260 .213
.220 James Harden Hou 37 .290 .187 .183
.213 Russell Westbrook OKC 38 .328 .244 .069
.207 Draymond Green GSW 35 .138 .263 .220
.198 Stephen Curry GSW 34 .172 .220 .201
.197 Mike Conley Mem 36 .177 .237 .178
.164 John Wall Was 37 .180 .142 .171
.151 Al Horford Bos 35 .136 .148 .170
.xyz per game tm mpg eWin 2vorp WS
.150 Paul Millsap Atl 35 .155 .141 .153
.144 Giannis A Mil 39 .163 .157 .112
.138 Paul George Ind 43 .155 .138 .122
.136 Nene Hilario Hou 21 .140 .113 .155
.129 Jimmy Butler Chi 42 .134 .111 .141
.122 Dennis Schroder Atl 34 .126 .106 .133
.115 Greg Monroe Mil 24 .105 .105 .136
.102 Lou Williams Hou 27 .110 .069 .127
.096 Kyle Lowry Tor 37 .080 .106 .102
.096 Norman Powell Tor 18 .078 .098 .113
.xyz per game tm mpg eWin 2vorp WS
.095 Robin Lopez Chi 27 .064 .081 .141
.082 Joe Ingles Uta 35 .055 .124 .066
.081 DeAndre Jordan LAC 37 .100 .027 .115
.080 Isaiah Thomas Bos 37 .131 .039 .070
.067 DeMar DeRozan Tor 36 .107 .023 .071
This is everyone in the top 20 of eWins, WS, or VORP.
VORP has the fewest outliers (correlates best with the avg).
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:38 pm
by Mike G
Most playoff minutes in 1st round by a player 40 or older, since 1984
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Min. rd1 @ 40+ yr
195 Vince Carter 2017
194 Karl Malone 2004
158 Jason Kidd 2013
149 John Stockton 2003
141 John Stockton 2002
These geezers collectively hit 83% of their FTA (57/69)
Mailman went on to get 798 minutes in the Lakers' run.
Highest Usage% over most minutes:
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year playoffs Min Usg%
2005 Hamilton 1079 25.5
1994 Ewing 1032 28.6
2001 Iverson 1016 36.8
1992 Jordan 920 37.1
2015 LeBron 844 37.6
1993 Jordan 783 38.0
2001 Malone 199 38.4
2017 Westbrook 194 47.0
1993 R Lewis 13 47.7
... etc.
RW is the only player to hit 40% Usage over 20 minutes (since 1984).
Rip just has the biggest-minute postseason.
Kawhi Leonard has a large lead over the field in Win Shares so far: 1.97 vs #2 Chris Paul at 1.30
He also leads comfortably in TS% .715 - .655 over DeAndre Jordan.
While a good TS% is favorable to Win Shares, the leaders are typically dominated by low-usage guys and first-round exiters.
Recent others who have placed top 10 in both categories:
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year PO Rank: TS% WS
2017 Kawhi 1 1
2015 Chris Paul 4 6
2014 LeBron 2 1
2012 Durant 3 2
. Harden 7 5
2011 Harden 6 9
. T Chandler 7 5
. Nowitzki 9 3
2010 Nash 6 10
2009 Billups 1 5
. Nowitzki 6 10
. D Howard 8 3
2008 Posey 6 7
2007 B Davis 6 7
. Billups 7 4
Tim Duncan has the all-time most WS in a postseason, 5.94 in 2003 -- 1.48 per PO series.
LeBron got 4.83 without making the Finals in 2009 -- 1.61 per series.
Best Game Scores in a 1st round series since 1984, separated by games played.
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year 3 games GmSc
1992 Jordan 38.4
1994 Barkley 35.0
1986 Jordan 30.6
1995 Barkley 30.4
1989 K Johnson 29.8
year 4 games GmSc
1988 Olajuwon 34.2
2009 LeBron 30.3
1994 Olajuwon 28.7
2017 * LeBron 28.4
1990 Jordan 28.2
year 5 games GmSc
1988 Jordan 34.0
1984 B King 31.7
1989 Jordan 30.9
2010 LeBron 29.5
1993 Olajuwon 29.2
year 6 games GmSc
2017 * K Leonard 26.6
2008 LeBron 25.4
2013 Durant 25.1
2003 Shaq 24.9
2006 Arenas 24.7
year 7 games GmSc
2005 McGrady 22.9
2015 Griffin 22.3
2003 McGrady 22.3
2003 Dirk 21.9
2016 P George 21.6
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:22 pm
by Mike G
Here's everyone (since 1978?) to have a postseason of more than 32 minutes and both:
Usg% > 30
ORtg/DRtg > 1.20
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30@1.2 yr min Usg% ORt DRt
Jordan 1996 733 32.9 123 101
Jordan 1991 689 32.7 127 101
LeBron 2009 580 36.4 128 100
George 2016 275 30.5 121 101
Kawhi * 2017 226 31.5 141 107
Paul * 2017 220 32.2 128 107
Olajuwon 1988 162 32.7 134 102
Robinson 2000 155 32.1 101 84
Paul 2016 125 30.9 125 103
ORtg/DRtg is a handy reference, since it incorporates team, opponent, and league-avg ORtg and DRtg
Not-quite first round leaders in per game averages:
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Points per game
37.4 Westbrook
33.2 Harden
32.8 LeBron
31.2 Kawhi
29.8 Curry
29.5 Wall
Rebounds
13.8 D Jordan
11.6 Westbrook
11.0 T Thompson
10.7 D Howard
10.7 Gortat
Assists
10.8 Westbrook
10.3 Wall
10.0 Paul
10.0 Rondo (2 G)
9.0 LeBron
Steals
3.5 Rondo (2 G)
3.0 LeBron
2.4 Westbrook
2.4 Roberson
2.3 Beal
2.2 Giannis
Blocks
4.3 D Green
3.4 Roberson
2.6 Capela
2.3 Ibaka
2.3 McGee
2.3 Gortat
Javale McGee in just 12 mpg. He'd get 7 (and foul out) in 36 minutes.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:43 am
by Mike G
Going into game 7, Chris Paul has done as much as any 2 opponents in the series, according to Win Shares, VORP, and eWins.
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. Jazz mpg e480 ws/48 BPM eWins WS vorp
Gordon Hayward 36 2.19 .179 4.5 .97 .79 .36
George Hill 36 1.04 .096 .8 .47 .44 .16
Rudy Gobert 16 2.27 .222 6.4 .44 .43 .20
Joe Johnson 32 1.16 .106 2.3 .47 .43 .22
Derrick Favors 26 .95 .123 2.0 .30 .39 .16
Joe Ingles 33 .28 .058 2.5 .11 .24 .23
Boris Diaw 19 .35 .075 .5 .08 .17 .07
Raul Neto 5 .26 .124 1.1 .02 .08 .03
Shelvin Mack 7 -.34 -.062 -6.3 -.03 -.05 -.04
Rodney Hood 26 .22 -.029 -5.5 .07 -.09 -.13
. totals 234 2.91 2.84 1.27
. Clippers mpg e480 ws/48 BPM eWins WS vorp
Chris Paul 37 3.36 .334 15.9 1.54 1.53 1.00
DeAndre Jordan 38 1.58 .114 -1.0 .74 .53 .07
L Mbah a Moute 35 .48 .100 2.6 .21 .44 .25
Raymond Felton 17 .30 .109 1.4 .07 .23 .09
M Speights 15 .89 .114 1.0 .17 .21 .07
Blake Griffin 17 1.97 .099 -.2 .41 .20 .05
J.J. Redick 31 -.14 .007 -2.8 -.05 .03 -.03
Paul Pierce 13 -.33 .014 -2.0 -.06 .02 .00
Austin Rivers 9 -.04 -.011 -3.3 .00 -.01 -.01
Jamal Crawford 27 .19 -.009 -4.4 .07 -.03 -.09
. totals 237 3.08 3.16 1.40
Paul has half of the Clippers' WS and eW, 71% of their VORP.
With minimum 200 minutes, the best-ever playoff BPM:
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year playoffs G PER WS/48 BPM
2009 LeBron 14 37.4 .399 18.2
2017 Paul 6 33.1 .334 15.9
1977 Kareem 11 32.4 .332 14.8
1990 Jordan 16 31.7 .284 14.3
1991 Jordan 17 32.0 .333 13.8
It's not a fluke for Chris Paul to be in this territory.
Career PO BPM leaders, 2000+ minutes:
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playoffs G PER WS/48 BPM
LeBron 203 27.7 .238 10.7
Jordan 179 28.6 .255 10.1
Paul 75 26.1 .216 8.7
Magic 190 23.0 .208 7.4
Barkley 123 24.2 .193 7.3
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 3:25 pm
by Mike G
First round leaders in eWins per game.
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eW/G per36 rates tm mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e480
.301 Russell Westbrook OKC 39 .500 32.0 10.7 7.6 2.3 5.7 .4 3.73
.282 LeBron James Cle 44 .590 27.4 8.9 8.0 2.5 3.8 1.7 3.09
.274 Kawhi Leonard SAS 38 .695 38.4 7.2 3.9 1.9 2.4 .2 3.50
.273 James Harden Hou 37 .578 36.6 6.2 6.4 1.6 5.9 .6 3.50
.206 John Wall Was 39 .610 31.2 3.8 8.8 1.6 4.5 .6 2.56
.205 Chris Paul LAC 37 .584 27.7 5.9 8.8 1.7 2.8 .1 2.65
.198 Giannis A Mil 41 .548 26.5 9.5 3.4 2.0 3.1 1.5 2.35
.191 Stephen Curry GSW 34 .613 36.4 5.8 6.5 2.5 3.8 .7 2.72
.182 Mike Conley Mem 37 .609 25.8 3.7 6.8 1.6 2.1 .4 2.34
.172 Paul George Ind 43 .544 21.6 7.9 5.9 1.5 3.0 .4 1.92
eW/G per36 rates tm mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e480
.163 Paul Millsap Atl 37 .582 26.5 9.8 4.0 1.5 4.0 .7 2.15
.154 Gordon Hayward Uta 36 .613 27.3 8.3 2.7 .7 2.8 .3 2.03
.154 Draymond Green GSW 35 .663 16.9 9.5 7.2 1.8 2.1 3.8 2.09
.153 Dennis Schroder Atl 35 .576 26.7 2.5 7.4 1.2 1.8 .0 2.09
.145 DeMar DeRozan Tor 37 .534 26.8 6.0 3.1 1.7 3.0 .0 1.89
.141 Nene Hilario Hou 22 .773 28.9 9.9 .8 .9 2.0 .9 3.07
.140 Al Horford Bos 35 .640 19.0 10.0 7.2 1.4 1.5 .6 2.30
.131 DeAndre Jordan LAC 38 .607 16.9 16.7 .6 .4 2.5 .8 1.67
.122 Isaiah Thomas Bos 37 .555 28.5 4.5 5.9 1.0 4.3 .0 1.93
.119 Lou Williams Hou 28 .595 23.1 5.1 1.8 1.0 1.3 .0 2.01
eW/G per36 rates tm mpg Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e480
.116 Bradley Beal Was 39 .538 23.1 3.6 1.9 2.2 2.0 .7 1.45
.115 Jimmy Butler Chi 41 .504 19.6 6.5 4.9 1.2 2.3 .9 1.59
.107 Greg Monroe Mil 24 .598 24.6 11.7 2.3 1.9 2.7 .7 2.18
.102 Marc Gasol Mem 40 .583 17.9 6.6 3.8 .3 2.5 .5 1.22
.100 Tony Parker SAS 27 .613 25.1 3.7 4.6 .7 2.4 .0 1.77
.096 Kyrie Irving Cle 34 .495 22.7 2.6 3.7 1.1 2.7 1.1 1.35
.095 Damian Lillard Por 38 .541 24.3 4.1 2.5 1.2 3.3 .5 1.21
.094 Serge Ibaka Tor 30 .513 16.4 11.3 2.1 .6 1.8 2.9 1.52
.093 Jeff Teague Ind 36 .630 17.7 3.6 6.0 1.0 2.2 .8 1.26
.084 George Hill Uta 36 .570 18.8 4.8 3.5 .3 2.0 .1 1.11
.084 Dwyane Wade Chi 34 .509 18.2 5.6 4.8 .8 2.3 1.7 1.41
At every level, about half of all star players did not advance.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:50 am
by Mike G
Data dump: First-round numbers for those moving on.
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. first round Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
Avery Bradley BOS 7 255 15.0 .108 2.1
Isaiah Thomas BOS 7 247 19.6 .137 1.3
Jae Crowder BOS 7 238 13.5 .126 .9
Al Horford BOS 7 238 26.6 .312 9.3
Marcus Smart BOS 7 210 13.8 .119 3.8
Kelly Olynyk BOS 7 133 18.9 .165 4.4
Terry Rozier BOS 6 103 15.7 .189 2.7
Gerald Green BOS 6 96 10.0 .041 -4.6
Jonas Jerebko BOS 6 58 9.8 .049 -1.1
Amir Johnson BOS 4 41 5.3 -.027 -5.2
Jaylen Brown BOS 6 36 10.3 -.036 -7.1
Tyler Zeller BOS 3 17 7.5 .028 -11.7
James Young BOS 4 8 .5 -.049 -11.6
. first round Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
LeBron James CLE 4 175 30.1 .232 10.1
Kyrie Irving CLE 4 137 17.4 .016 -6.2
Kevin Love CLE 4 132 15.7 .109 -.9
Tristan Thompson CLE 4 125 14.4 .098 .6
J.R. Smith CLE 4 115 5.9 .004 -1.5
Kyle Korver CLE 4 69 11.7 .086 .4
Deron Williams CLE 4 62 24.9 .337 7.1
Channing Frye CLE 4 61 26.3 .307 7.8
Iman Shumpert CLE 3 50 4.8 .041 -1.4
Richard Jefferson CLE 3 33 7.7 .068 -1.6
. first round Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
Draymond Green GSW 4 141 23.2 .290 12.8
Klay Thompson GSW 4 137 9.6 .019 -4.7
Stephen Curry GSW 4 135 28.3 .274 10.5
Andre Iguodala GSW 4 120 10.8 .146 .5
Patrick McCaw GSW 4 83 11.6 .166 2.8
Ian Clark GSW 4 75 12.2 .156 -2.5
Zaza Pachulia GSW 4 58 14.0 .134 -1.4
David West GSW 4 58 21.0 .264 5.5
Kevin Durant GSW 2 56 24.1 .199 3.4
JaVale McGee GSW 4 49 38.9 .428 13.9
James M McAdoo GSW 3 21 14.6 .168 -6.1
Shaun Livingston GSW 1 15 5.7 .145 -.4
Damian Jones GSW 2 12 10.5 .164 -2.2
. first round Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
Trevor Ariza HOU 5 190 5.6 .055 1.3
James Harden HOU 5 187 26.6 .221 8.5
Eric Gordon HOU 5 167 12.5 .119 1.9
Ryan Anderson HOU 5 143 5.8 .034 -2.8
Lou Williams HOU 5 142 21.8 .224 3.0
Patrick Beverley HOU 5 138 14.2 .117 4.4
Clint Capela HOU 5 111 18.5 .164 5.0
Nene Hilario HOU 5 110 26.4 .300 5.7
Bobby Brown HOU 1 4 16.2 .093 -11.8
Montrezl Harrell HOU 1 4 3.8 .180 -11.9
Troy Williams HOU 1 4 -10.0 -.406 -21.1
. first round Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
Kawhi Leonard SAS 6 226 37.0 .418 13.4
LaMarcus Aldridge SAS 6 224 14.7 .105 -.8
Tony Parker SAS 6 163 21.6 .171 1.7
Danny Green SAS 6 145 9.5 .087 2.4
Pau Gasol SAS 6 140 9.8 .047 -1.7
David Lee SAS 6 130 14.1 .167 3.5
Patty Mills SAS 6 130 15.2 .145 2.2
Manu Ginobili SAS 6 93 7.5 -.012 1.9
Jonathon Simmons SAS 5 54 13.1 .124 .6
Kyle Anderson SAS 5 51 17.6 .134 1.3
Davis Bertans SAS 5 47 9.8 .051 -.9
Dewayne Dedmon SAS 5 43 12.4 .125 1.8
Bryn Forbes SAS 1 9 17.7 .256 .9
Dejounte Murray SAS 2 9 13.4 .114 -4.3
. first round Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
Kyle Lowry TOR 6 231 14.4 .135 3.3
DeMar DeRozan TOR 6 221 18.9 .124 .5
Serge Ibaka TOR 6 178 16.0 .120 2.8
P.J. Tucker TOR 6 145 3.4 .031 -1.3
Jonas Valanciunas TOR 6 126 12.4 .071 -7.7
Norman Powell TOR 5 120 20.7 .242 5.7
Patrick Patterson TOR 6 114 9.8 .094 1.4
DeMarre Carroll TOR 6 110 14.3 .158 3.6
Cory Joseph TOR 6 103 4.3 -.036 -6.1
Delon Wright TOR 6 57 16.2 .182 3.7
Jakob Poeltl TOR 4 17 16.2 .109 -10.2
Fred VanVleet TOR 3 11 13.6 .234 -7.2
Lucas Nogueira TOR 3 7 25.6 .305 -11.5
. first round Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
Gordon Hayward UTA 7 255 22.2 .180 3.7
George Hill UTA 7 253 14.9 .113 1.2
Joe Ingles UTA 7 235 10.9 .100 4.5
Joe Johnson UTA 7 224 16.6 .101 1.6
Derrick Favors UTA 7 184 17.8 .174 3.8
Rodney Hood UTA 7 173 8.6 .003 -4.2
Boris Diaw UTA 7 128 14.3 .102 1.4
Rudy Gobert UTA 5 107 20.9 .201 4.4
Shelvin Mack UTA 5 42 1.7 -.045 -6.1
Raul Neto UTA 5 34 11.2 .099 -.2
Dante Exum UTA 3 24 10.7 .136 1.4
Jeff Withey UTA 3 21 14.6 .202 6.1
. first round * Tm G MP PER WS/48 BPM
Bradley Beal WAS 7 271 18.9 .097 .4
John Wall WAS 7 271 25.9 .172 4.6
Marcin Gortat WAS 7 227 14.7 .115 1.5
Otto Porter WAS 7 218 15.6 .169 2.5
Markieff Morris WAS 7 183 9.9 .007 -4.7
Bojan Bogdanovic WAS 7 148 15.5 .137 -2.3
Kelly Oubre WAS 7 124 11.1 .079 .9
Jason Smith WAS 7 109 3.7 -.033 -6.3
Brandon Jennings WAS 7 105 12.6 .101 -3.9
Tomas Satoransky WAS 6 14 -.6 -.097 -7.5
Daniel Ochefu WAS 4 5 -19.5 -.464 -26.1
Sheldon McClellan WAS 3 4 26.4 .158 -5.5
* WAS numbers unfortunately include game 1 of round 2.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... anced.html
Correlations with minutes:
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rate: PER WS/48 BPM
Min. .180 .096 .444
MPG .208 .094 .482
That's for all players, not just the winners.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:01 am
by Mike G
Players who have gotten at least 14 blocks
and 14 3-pointers in first 6 games of a postseason:
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year thru 6 G 3FG Blk
2017 Draymond Green 18 20
2010 LeBron James 16 14
thru
9 games:
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year thru 9 G 3FG Blk
2017 Draymond 18 20
2016 Draymond 19 22
2010 LeBron 18 19
Kind of an exclusive club. Yeah, that's if Green gets no more in next 3 games.
Last year, he totaled just 19 and 19 after this, in 14 games.
This postseason has already produced 14 of the 100 highest single-game 3-Pt totals for a team since the short-arc period. Last year's playoffs had 26 of 'em; added to 2015, we get 53% of them in just the last 2.x postseasons.
Here are playoff games to date, in which a team has scored more than half their points from beyond the arc:
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%3's yr Tm 3fg Opp
.610 2016 CLE 25 ATL
.583 2016 GSW 21 OKC
.561 2016 CLE 20 DET
.531 2016 GSW 17 OKC
.529 2017 CLE 21 IND
.524 2017 HOU 22 SAS
.522 2015 GSW 20 HOU
.521 2016 GSW 21 HOU
.521 2016 CLE 21 ATL
.506 2016 GSW 15 CLE
Teams are scoring more this year, not just from long range.
Highest % of points from 3's for both teams combined:
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%3's yr Tm1 3fg 3fg Tm2
.489 2016 CLE 25 11 ATL
.485 2016 CLE 21 16 ATL
.476 2017 CLE 21 16 IND
.457 2015 GSW 20 17 HOU
.426 2014 ATL 15 14 IND
.426 2016 CLE 14 12 TOR
.413 2017 HOU 22 9 SAS
.408 2016 POR 17 14 GSW
.396 2016 CLE 15 11 ATL
.396 2007 GSW 14 12 DAL
In that Cle-Atl series last year, 13 guys averaged at least 1 3FG per game
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player tm 3fg 3a
Love Cle 19 40
Smith Cle 14 28
Irving Cle 12 18
Frye Cle 11 19
Schroder Atl 9 19
LeBron Cle 8 19
Sefolosha Atl 6 8
Korver Atl 6 14
Horford Atl 5 13
Bazemore Atl 5 23
Jefferson Cle 5 6
Shumpert Cle 4 6
Teague Atl 4 15
Hawks hit .373, Cavs .506
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:49 am
by Mike G
Through 3 games of round 2, and losing by 18 Pts/G, the Raptors have generated negative Win Shares and VORP.
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Raps rd2 Min PER e480 WS/48 BPM
DeRozan 106 15.5 .85 -.021 -3.8
Ibaka 94 10.8 .49 -.057 -4.1
Powell 83 4.8 .12 -.152 -5.8
Valanciunas 74 23.5 1.46 .149 -4.7
Lowry 69 21.8 1.13 .078 1.1
Joseph 69 13.0 .67 -.016 -1.1
Patterson 61 5.5 -.18 -.067 -4.6
Tucker 60 10.6 .54 -.020 -3.0
Carroll 39 -.2 -.28 -.216 -7.1
Wright 35 13.0 .11 .035 -1.6
. Totals 709 13.0 .60 -.018 -3.3
Just one player is holding his own in BPM -- or was.
Just 3 are
above zero in WS production; one is out, the other 2 combine for 15% of Tor minutes.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:29 am
by Mike G
Best Game Score through first 7 games of a postseason (since 1984) --
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GmSc per G yr Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk
32.0 LeBron 2009 33.7 10.0 6.6 2.1 .7
31.3 Jordan 1988 41.6 7.0 4.4 2.1 1.4
30.8 Jordan 1990 40.0 7.1 6.6 3.1 1.0
29.7 LeBron 2017 34.3 8.3 9.0 2.4 1.6
28.3 Jordan 1992 36.3 7.7 5.0 2.3 1.0
28.2 LeBron 2010 31.1 8.6 7.4 1.7 2.3
28.0 Jordan 1989 35.4 6.7 8.0 2.6 .3
27.5 Hakeem 1994 32.7 13.1 4.7 1.7 3.9
27.2 Bird 1987 29.7 9.4 7.9 1.6 .6
27.2 Hakeem 1993 28.6 15.0 4.4 1.3 5.6
Kawhi ranks #22.
During the Dubs-Jazz game I overheard something like, "He has the best playoff FT% ever". I didn't catch the name or any qualification such as "with at least xxx attempts".
So here are the best FT% with as many FTA.
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FTA @ % FTA FT%
Shaq 2317 .504
LeBron 1899 .745
Jordan 1786 .828
Magic 1274 .838
Dirk 1204 .892
Reggie 862 .893
Nash 440 .900
Sharman 406 .911
M Price 214 .944
Hayward 92 .946
J Long 49 .959
Nachbar 27 .963
Sm Parker 14 1.00
That's the immortal Smush with most attempts without a miss.
Hayward is 7-7 with 5 minutes left. If he doesn't miss any, he knocks John Long off the list.
Of all 90% FT shooters with 20+ attempts, Ryan Anderson has easily the lowest FTA/FGA (.158)
INSTANT UPDATE -- Hayward missed his last one, to go 13-14. His line now reads 86 @ .953.
update2 -- Hayward missed another in game 4; still makes the list (edited).
update2.1 -- Ryan Anderson went 2-4 in game 4 (OT loss!), thus tripling his career misses.
In 34 playoff games, it was only the 3rd time he's had as many as 4 FTA .
Bostjan Nachbar, with one miss in 27 attempts, backs into Anderson's spot. He was but a .784 RS FT shooter.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 4:23 am
by Crow
Odds against it but Cavs & Warriors could end in finals and both be without a playoff loss to date. Has that happened / recently? Not going look that up right now but tell us if you do.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:28 pm
by shadow
The only time two teams met in the Finals without a prior playoff loss was 1957. Of course back then you only had to win one best of 5 series to advance to the Finals. Although St Louis did have to win two tiebreaker games that year to secure the top seed and then went 3-0 against Minneapolis to go on to face Boston, who swept Syracuse 3-0 in the East finals.
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:48 am
by Mike G
Best 2nd-round series by Game Score, since 1984:
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GmSc per game: G Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk
35.4 Jordan 1990 5 43.0 6.6 7.4 4.0 1.2
31.8 Jordan 1989 6 35.7 9.5 8.3 2.5 1.3
30.4 LeBron 2009 4 33.8 8.3 6.0 2.5 .5
29.8 LeBron 2017 4 36.0 8.3 5.3 1.3 1.0
28.7 Brand 2006 7 30.9 10.4 4.3 1.0 3.1
28.5 Dirk 2009 5 34.4 11.6 4.0 .8 1.0
28.4 Bird 1984 7 30.4 10.6 7.1 2.7 1.0
27.2 Jordan 1991 5 33.4 8.0 7.8 1.8 1.4
27.1 Hardaway 1991 5 26.8 2.8 12.8 3.8 1.0
27.0 Shaq 2001 4 33.3 17.3 2.3 .5 3.3
In both '09 and this year, LeBron hit 13 of 27 from the arc in round 2.
Best first-8-games in a postseason (limited to players who actually went 8 games)
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GmSc per game: Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk
31.8 Jordan 1990 40.6 7.0 7.1 3.0 .8
30.3 LeBron 2009 32.9 9.8 6.8 2.0 .6
29.7 Jordan 1989 36.0 7.8 8.1 3.0 .4
29.3 LeBron 2010 32.0 8.5 7.4 1.6 2.3
29.1 LeBron 2017 34.4 9.0 7.1 2.1 1.5
29.0 Jordan 1988 39.4 7.0 4.3 2.0 1.4
27.8 Jordan 1992 36.4 7.4 4.8 2.1 .9
27.6 Hakeem 1994 32.1 13.0 5.1 1.6 4.0
27.4 Shaq 2000 32.4 17.3 2.6 .8 2.8
27.2 Kawhi 2017 30.3 6.8 4.6 1.9 .4
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 12:50 pm
by Mike G
Summary rates via b-r.com, extracted from the first round numbers up-thread, for 2nd round teams:
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. Cavs min PER WS/48 BPM e480 WS vorp eWin
LeBron James 164 32.0 .360 12.2 3.04 1.23 .58 1.04
Kyrie Irving 138 21.8 .205 3.6 2.27 .59 .19 .65
T Thompson 137 14.2 .203 4.4 .86 .58 .22 .25
Kevin Love 118 11.3 .079 -1.5 1.07 .20 .01 .26
J.R. Smith 93 8.4 .127 4.3 .13 .25 .15 .02
Kyle Korver 87 19.8 .249 7.4 1.02 .45 .20 .18
Iman Shumpert 83 10.4 .128 1.2 .52 .22 .07 .09
Deron Williams 66 10.7 .110 -.7 .70 .15 .02 .10
Channing Frye 53 24.1 .292 7.6 1.44 .32 .13 .16
. totals 945 17.8 .202 4.6 1.39 3.98 1.57 2.73
. Raptors min PER WS/48 BPM e480 WS vorp eWin
DeMar DeRozan 152 14.0 -.023 -3.4 .76 -.07 -.05 .24
Serge Ibaka 129 12.7 -.011 -3.1 .52 -.03 -.04 .14
Cory Joseph 109 18.5 .102 2.3 1.09 .23 .12 .25
Norman Powell 107 4.8 -.142 -5.5 .14 -.32 -.09 .03
P.J. Tucker 106 13.6 .057 1.1 .67 .13 .08 .15
J Valanciunas 100 20.1 .094 -5.2 1.12 .20 -.08 .23
P Patterson 71 5.1 -.088 -4.9 -.13 -.13 -.05 -.02
Kyle Lowry 69 21.4 .057 -.2 1.18 .08 .03 .17
D Carroll 45 1.2 -.186 -6.7 -.13 -.17 -.05 -.01
Delon Wright 35 12.8 .024 -1.8 .16 .02 .00 .01
Fred VanVleet 18 24.2 .200 6.2 1.15 .08 .04 .04
Jakob Poeltl 9 25.7 .103 -7.9 1.43 .02 -.01 .03
. totals 950 13.4 .001 -2.5 .64 .02 -.12 1.26
Minutes should total 960, but there were some bit players. Still, Win Shares and eWins total 4.0, so nothing major is excluded.
In neither of these series does PER sum to 15, but maybe it's not supposed to.
BPM is adjusted to strength of competition. In Cle/Tor it seems to be +2.1, and in GS/Uta it's +4.5
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. Warriors min PER WS/48 BPM e480 WS vorp eWin
Draymond Green 142 23.6 .298 12.8 2.19 .88 .53 .65
Stephen Curry 140 25.0 .284 9.7 2.33 .83 .41 .68
Klay Thompson 138 9.6 .073 .5 .51 .21 .09 .15
Kevin Durant 136 25.7 .288 8.3 2.59 .82 .35 .73
Andre Iguodala 107 8.7 .063 1.8 .35 .14 .10 .08
S Livingston 64 11.0 .114 .8 .49 .15 .05 .06
David West 59 16.6 .203 7.1 1.14 .25 .13 .14
Zaza Pachulia 55 14.8 .187 1.9 1.29 .21 .05 .15
JaVale McGee 42 19.4 .268 .7 .91 .23 .03 .08
Ian Clark 40 14.8 .122 -2.2 .70 .10 .00 .06
. totals 940 17.5 .193 5.3 1.41 3.79 1.71 2.76
. Jazz min PER WS/48 BPM e480 WS vorp eWin
Gordon Hayward 156 19.3 .085 4.8 1.32 .28 .26 .43
Rudy Gobert 139 21.6 .173 3.9 1.54 .50 .20 .45
Shelvin Mack 113 12.9 .036 -1.0 .75 .08 .03 .18
Rodney Hood 104 -1.5 -.194 -8.2 -.37 -.42 -.16 -.08
Joe Johnson 102 2.9 -.142 -6.4 -.07 -.30 -.11 -.01
Joe Ingles 99 8.9 -.032 .8 .31 -.07 .07 .06
Boris Diaw 75 8.3 -.014 -2.1 .13 -.02 .00 .02
Dante Exum 60 14.8 .080 .4 .57 .10 .04 .07
Derrick Favors 41 14.5 .009 -5.0 .72 .01 -.03 .06
George Hill 28 2.9 -.268 -6.8 .01 -.16 -.03 .00
Raul Neto 26 17.7 .198 2.6 .68 .11 .03 .04
. totals 943 11.8 .006 -.8 .62 .11 .29 1.21
Re: Playoff notes and summaries, 2017
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:20 pm
by Mike G
Rodney Hood followed a bad 1st round (PER 8.6, ws/48 .003, BPM -4.2) with an incredibly worse round 2 (-1.5, -.194, -8.2). And he consistently got 26 min/G. Yet he doesn't qualify for worst BPM over most minutes nor one of the 15 lowest VORP in a postseason.
Here's a partial list of those guys:
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-BPM @ min. yr tm Min BPM VORP
Tim Hardaway 2001 Mia 36 -19.6 -.2
Michael Doleac 1999 Orl 43 -16.3 -.2
Marc Jackson 2005 Phl 65 -14.4 -.2
Shawn Kemp 2003 Orl 72 -14.1 -.2
J.J. Barea 2016 Dal 100 -12.2 -.3
Todd Fuller 1999 Uta 105 -11.0 -.2
Troy Hudson 2002 Orl 106 -10.7 -.2
Andre Drummond 2016 Det 131 -10.1 -.3
Armen Gilliam 2000 Uta 132 - 9.9 -.3
Stephon Marbury 2009 Bos 166 - 9.2 -.3
Jim Paxson 1988 Bos 188 - 9.1 -.3
M Landsberger 1980 LAL 195 - 8.4 -.3
Tom Chambers 1993 Phx 376 - 8.0 -.6
Eddie Johnson 1993 Sea 382 - 6.2 -.4
I'm arbitrarily stopping here. Chambers and EJ had switched teams in the early 90's. But TC'93 does sport the biggest negative VORP in the 3-pt era.
http://bkref.com/tiny/RSJVD
Oh yeah, Hood had 277 min @ -5.7 BPM, vorp = -.16; hardly in Chambers' class.