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Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 4:33 am
by Crow
I'd try to trade as many guys as you can do something useful with, no one off-limits. I'd probably be somewhat more inclined to keep Augustin and Biyombo, at least temporarily to give some structure. I'd push hard to trade Vucevic, Hezonja, Payton and yes Gordon. None of these fit with Moreyball. And I generally think that is the way to go. Biyombo is for Vogel. Evaluate in a year or two. May need to ditch one or both but give them a bit further try.

Re: Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:26 pm
by jgoldstein34

Re: Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:07 pm
by Crow
I don't know "much" about him but here is a little:

Clippers director of player personnel from 1994-2001: one playoff appearance (first round loss), average of about 23 wins per year.
Assistant GM for the Denver Nuggets 2001-2006: climbed to better record than previous team and 3 first round losses.
A year with Saunders' Pistons (conference finals before and after his stay)
5 years with Bucks: more first round losses (2).
Then with Raptors recently for their up & down.

So lots of experience, some lower and less middle team success while he assisted.
Son of an ABA/NBA GM.

Re: Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:32 pm
by jgoldstein34
Thanks. Seems like a solid guy to take a chance on, hopefully he picked up good habits under Ujiri in Toronto.

Re: Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 2:05 am
by jgoldstein34
Interesting tweet which leads me to believe that Weltman is going to be pretty good:

https://twitter.com/NBAWind/status/866836600440881152

Re: Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:07 pm
by Crow
Magic back to more layers of major management actors. Weitman & Hammond might work cordially and multiple voices might have some potential advantage... but that team never got out if first round in Milwaukee and this is the way they select to go out of all the options? Foes that suggest Hennigan was found too young / too inexperienced, not effectively collaborative enough, not as corporate as the Magic ownership / senior management like? Was it just results that came up way short or was it style too?

Re: Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 6:39 pm
by Crow
As a recent article by Ben Thompson presents, Hammond made as many or maybe more mistakes with Bucks than good moves... but the good moves probably outweigh in importance.

Re: Orlando Magic changes?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:01 am
by jgoldstein34
It was very much a mixed bag. Not a bad GM but not a good one, so far at least. I think they can get this team to the playoffs in 4-5 years if everything goes right.