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eWins 2018
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:37 pm
by Mike G
The season is just past 10%
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
16.6 Antetokounmpo Mil 37 .631 30.6 10.8 4.7 1.7 3.2 1.3 2.66
16.6 DeMarcus Cousins NOP 38 .596 27.1 13.1 5.5 1.9 5.2 2.5 2.59
16.2 LeBron James Cle 38 .672 28.5 7.8 8.4 1.3 4.2 1.2 2.53
14.7 Russell Westbrook OkC 34 .520 22.4 10.5 13.6 1.4 5.8 .3 2.56
13.8 James Harden Hou 36 .567 28.1 4.8 10.6 1.5 5.0 .5 2.30
13.8 Anthony Davis NOP 36 .608 27.3 12.2 2.7 1.4 2.6 2.6 2.56
13.4 Damian Lillard Por 37 .553 28.1 5.4 6.4 1.3 3.2 .7 2.16
13.3 Stephen Curry GSW 33 .675 28.7 5.5 7.0 2.0 2.8 .2 2.38
12.8 Blake Griffin LAC 34 .593 27.3 8.6 5.8 .9 3.1 .3 2.26
12.4 Kyrie Irving Bos 34 .544 26.1 3.7 7.2 2.8 2.4 .5 2.17
e82 11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
12.0 Andre Drummond Det 32 .569 16.6 16.7 2.9 2.3 2.5 1.2 2.20
11.9 Nikola Jokic Den 32 .617 19.4 13.7 5.4 1.3 2.8 .7 2.17
11.7 Krist. Porzingis NYK 33 .563 31.4 8.7 1.1 .6 2.7 1.8 2.09
11.3 Ben Simmons Phl 35 .528 16.9 9.9 8.4 1.6 3.6 .6 1.89
11.2 Kevin Durant GSW 36 .641 23.4 8.0 5.1 .4 3.6 2.2 1.83
11.2 Kemba Walker Cha 35 .616 27.0 3.2 6.1 .8 2.5 .4 1.91
10.9 Marc Gasol Mem 34 .572 24.0 10.5 3.3 .8 3.5 1.1 1.87
10.8 Clint Capela Hou 24 .702 21.7 17.0 2.0 1.4 1.7 2.4 2.63
10.7 Al Horford Bos 32 .641 19.6 10.2 5.8 .9 2.7 .9 1.97
10.5 Karl-Anth. Towns Min 33 .629 22.4 13.1 .9 .7 2.5 2.0 1.86
e82 21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
10.4 LaMarcus Aldridge SAS 34 .531 24.3 8.9 2.0 .8 1.8 1.2 1.80
10.2 Rudy Gobert Uta 34 .670 17.6 11.7 1.6 .6 2.6 3.5 1.74
10.1 John Wall Was 36 .487 18.7 3.6 11.1 1.3 4.0 .9 1.68
9.9 Steven Adams OkC 31 .679 18.8 10.9 2.0 1.6 1.6 1.6 1.89
9.9 Victor Oladipo Ind 32 .624 28.4 4.9 4.3 1.7 3.9 .5 1.83
9.8 Evan Fournier Orl 34 .668 24.5 5.1 4.2 1.5 2.4 .2 1.71
9.6 DeMar DeRozan Tor 34 .568 26.6 4.1 4.5 1.9 3.8 .1 1.68
9.4 Bradley Beal Was 34 .581 25.1 5.2 3.4 1.2 2.4 .6 1.65
9.0 Carmelo Anthony OkC 33 .526 24.1 6.4 2.1 1.1 1.8 1.2 1.59
8.9 Joel Embiid Phl 28 .577 25.4 13.2 4.7 1.8 5.9 1.6 2.14
e82 31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
8.7 Nikola Vucevic Orl 31 .597 21.4 9.1 3.6 .8 2.5 1.1 1.67
8.6 Paul George OkC 34 .547 23.3 5.8 2.4 2.5 2.7 .5 1.51
8.6 Jeremy Lamb Cha 31 .580 22.8 6.2 4.0 .9 2.0 .4 1.64
8.5 DeAndre Jordan LAC 32 .555 11.4 17.1 .6 .7 1.2 1.3 1.60
8.5 Reggie Jackson Det 29 .528 20.6 5.4 7.7 1.4 2.6 .0 1.74
8.5 Enes Kanter NYK 25 .657 21.9 15.8 1.3 .7 3.0 1.1 2.01
8.4 Otto Porter Was 33 .665 19.4 8.1 2.1 2.5 .8 .7 1.72
8.4 Devin Booker Phx 33 .578 24.4 5.3 4.2 1.1 3.1 .2 1.51
8.4 Goran Dragic Mia 35 .577 22.2 4.3 4.7 .9 2.1 .1 1.43
8.4 Kevin Love Cle 30 .572 19.9 14.2 1.8 .5 3.0 .5 1.65
Oladipo looks better than George, so far.
#41-50 -- McCollum, Sabonis, Lowry, Rubio, Tyreke, A Gordon, Dwight, Tobias, Millsap, E Gordon
51-60 -- D Collison, Markkanen, Conley, Klay, Dray, Middleton, P Gasol, Nurkic, Gortat, Tatum
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:19 pm
by Mike G
Season at .155
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
17.3 Giannis A Mil 37 .633 31.5 11.0 4.4 1.4 3.3 1.8 2.73
17.1 James Harden Hou 36 .603 32.3 5.1 11.7 1.7 4.9 .5 2.80
15.0 DeMarcus Cousins NOP 38 .573 26.2 12.8 5.3 1.5 5.0 1.9 2.31
14.6 LeBron James Cle 38 .653 27.0 7.4 8.2 1.2 4.5 1.1 2.26
14.3 Anthony Davis NOP 37 .632 26.5 11.5 2.7 1.3 2.1 2.3 2.46
13.3 Damian Lillard Por 36 .550 27.8 5.7 6.8 1.1 3.1 .6 2.16
13.1 Stephen Curry GSW 32 .642 27.4 5.4 8.3 2.0 3.0 .2 2.39
12.9 R Westbrook OkC 34 .489 22.4 9.3 11.1 2.0 5.2 .2 2.23
12.5 Nikola Jokic Den 31 .609 20.4 14.1 5.7 1.7 2.5 .7 2.36
12.0 K Porzingis NYK 32 .603 33.9 8.7 1.2 .4 2.6 2.3 2.38
e82 11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
11.8 Andre Drummond Det 33 .551 15.6 17.8 3.7 1.8 3.0 1.2 2.08
11.4 L Aldridge SAS 33 .556 25.0 9.5 2.5 .9 1.6 1.4 2.05
11.3 Kevin Durant GSW 35 .658 25.4 8.1 5.9 .6 3.6 2.3 2.09
11.1 Blake Griffin LAC 35 .547 24.1 8.2 5.0 1.0 2.9 .2 1.86
10.8 Clint Capela Hou 26 .697 20.3 17.2 2.2 1.2 2.4 2.8 2.45
10.5 Paul George OkC 36 .570 24.2 6.2 2.8 2.6 2.6 .4 1.71
10.4 Karl-A Towns Min 33 .611 22.2 13.1 1.3 .7 2.4 1.8 1.88
10.3 Kyrie Irving Bos 31 .535 26.0 3.6 7.1 2.3 2.3 .3 2.11
10.2 John Wall Was 34 .507 20.7 4.3 10.9 1.4 3.8 1.3 1.91
9.8 Ben Simmons Phl 34 .504 16.5 9.4 8.3 1.9 4.0 .7 1.70
e82 21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
9.8 Kemba Walker Cha 34 .571 24.0 3.5 6.8 .9 2.7 .2 1.68
9.7 Marc Gasol Mem 34 .541 21.8 10.0 3.5 .5 3.3 1.9 1.69
9.7 Bradley Beal Was 34 .591 26.4 5.0 3.7 1.3 3.0 .4 1.67
9.5 Kevin Love Cle 30 .594 21.5 14.1 2.3 1.0 2.8 .6 1.89
9.3 DeMar DeRozan Tor 35 .550 26.4 3.9 4.6 1.3 3.4 .2 1.59
9.0 Al Horford Bos 32 .657 20.3 9.8 6.1 .9 2.9 .7 1.92
8.8 C.J. McCollum Por 36 .570 25.4 4.3 2.9 .9 1.8 .4 1.57
8.6 Tyreke Evans Mem 27 .610 25.3 6.4 4.2 1.5 2.2 .1 1.86
8.5 Reggie Jackson Det 29 .545 22.0 4.8 8.0 1.4 3.0 .0 1.76
8.5 Nikola Vucevic Orl 30 .578 20.3 9.2 3.7 1.1 2.2 1.1 1.68
e82 31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
8.5 Otto Porter Was 33 .669 19.1 8.0 2.1 2.1 .8 .6 1.65
8.4 Tobias Harris Det 33 .597 23.4 5.7 1.9 .6 .9 .2 1.49
8.4 Victor Oladipo Ind 33 .580 25.6 4.9 3.9 1.5 3.8 .6 1.51
8.2 Rudy Gobert Uta 34 .642 16.7 11.8 1.4 .6 2.3 2.9 1.56
8.2 Goran Dragic Mia 34 .558 22.1 4.5 5.0 .8 2.4 .2 1.41
8.2 Enes Kanter NYK 25 .657 20.8 16.5 1.4 1.0 3.1 .7 1.92
8.1 Pau Gasol SAS 25 .582 17.0 12.1 5.7 .5 2.4 1.9 1.92
8.1 Aaron Gordon Orl 32 .663 21.9 9.0 2.9 1.0 1.8 1.0 1.79
8.0 Draymond Green GSW 30 .611 11.8 10.0 9.4 1.2 3.9 1.5 1.59
7.9 DeAndre Jordan LAC 32 .603 12.0 16.2 1.1 .7 1.5 1.1 1.47
41-50 -- Carmelo, Fournier, D Booker, Lowry, Nurkic, Embiid, Russell, K Thompson, Conley, Middleton
51-60 -- E Gordon, Lamb, Millsap, Whiteside, Warren, S Adams, Dwight, Schroder, Sabonis, Barton
Harden's last 5 games have been epic:
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games TS% Pts TRb% Ast% Stl% TO% ORtg DRtg GmSc
1 - 9 .562 26.6 7.3 49.1 2.1 18.1 108 106 18.7
10-14 .701 36.8 8.5 61.0 2.7 13.2 142 105 33.0
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:33 pm
by Mike G
With the season at .233, it's becoming Harden's season.
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
17.9 James Harden Hou 36 .606 33.3 5.0 11.7 1.7 4.9 .5 2.94
16.4 LeBron James Cle 38 .650 28.4 7.7 8.8 1.1 4.2 1.1 2.56
15.5 Antetokounmpo Mil 38 .598 28.9 10.8 4.0 1.4 3.0 1.6 2.56
14.4 Russell Westbrook OkC 35 .487 23.2 9.7 10.5 2.1 4.8 .1 2.41
13.9 Damian Lillard Por 36 .556 29.1 5.3 6.4 1.1 3.0 .7 2.26
13.8 Anthony Davis NOP 36 .634 25.6 11.5 2.8 1.2 2.3 2.1 2.38
13.2 DeMarcus Cousins NOP 35 .561 24.4 13.0 5.4 1.7 5.5 1.8 2.21
12.7 Stephen Curry GSW 32 .627 28.6 5.9 7.8 2.0 3.4 .2 2.45
12.3 Kyrie Irving Bos 31 .579 30.1 3.8 6.8 1.9 2.4 .3 2.42
11.8 Nikola Jokic Den 30 .604 19.9 14.1 5.6 1.7 2.8 .7 2.30
e82 11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
11.3 LaMarcus Aldridge SAS 33 .553 25.1 9.4 2.7 .6 1.8 1.3 2.03
11.2 Blake Griffin LAC 36 .531 24.0 8.0 5.1 1.0 3.1 .3 1.85
11.0 Karl-A Towns Min 35 .618 21.3 12.9 1.6 .6 2.0 1.4 1.89
10.8 Ben Simmons Phl 35 .521 17.7 9.1 8.4 2.2 3.6 .8 1.92
10.8 Andre Drummond Det 33 .540 15.5 17.7 3.8 1.6 3.9 1.3 1.92
10.3 Kemba Walker Cha 35 .568 23.9 3.8 6.5 .7 2.3 .2 1.72
10.3 DeMar DeRozan Tor 34 .552 25.3 4.9 5.4 1.4 3.1 .2 1.77
10.3 Clint Capela Hou 26 .663 19.3 17.2 2.3 1.1 2.3 2.8 2.36
10.1 K Porzingis NYK 33 .567 28.9 8.4 1.2 .5 2.7 2.4 2.02
10.0 Kyle Lowry Tor 32 .598 18.9 7.6 8.5 1.0 2.9 .2 1.84
e82 21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
9.9 Bradley Beal Was 35 .569 25.7 4.9 3.8 1.3 3.0 .5 1.65
9.8 Joel Embiid Phl 29 .566 26.3 13.6 4.4 1.0 5.5 2.1 2.23
9.8 Marc Gasol Mem 35 .524 20.1 10.0 4.5 .5 3.3 1.7 1.67
9.7 Paul George OkC 37 .539 21.2 6.1 3.1 2.8 2.5 .5 1.56
9.6 John Wall Was 34 .523 21.8 3.7 10.2 1.1 3.3 1.1 1.95
9.5 Kevin Love Cle 30 .585 21.3 13.2 2.4 .8 2.5 .6 1.88
9.5 Kevin Durant GSW 34 .637 25.5 7.2 5.6 .8 3.6 2.2 2.05
9.0 C.J. McCollum Por 36 .577 25.4 4.2 2.8 1.2 2.2 .3 1.56
8.9 Victor Oladipo Ind 33 .563 24.8 5.7 4.1 1.8 3.6 .9 1.67
8.7 Al Horford Bos 32 .621 17.8 9.5 6.5 .7 2.8 .9 1.75
e82 31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
8.2 Otto Porter Was 33 .640 18.5 8.2 1.8 1.9 .9 .4 1.54
8.1 Carmelo Anthony OkC 32 .528 23.2 7.2 1.9 1.1 2.0 .7 1.56
8.1 Nikola Vucevic Orl 29 .554 18.7 10.1 3.5 1.3 2.3 1.0 1.62
8.1 Pau Gasol SAS 25 .578 17.4 12.3 5.2 .4 2.4 1.9 1.91
8.0 Goran Dragic Mia 34 .559 21.5 4.7 5.0 1.0 2.7 .1 1.39
7.9 Tyreke Evans Mem 28 .587 22.7 6.3 4.2 1.4 2.4 .4 1.65
7.8 Hassan Whiteside Mia 28 .622 21.1 17.3 .6 1.2 2.3 2.4 2.29
7.7 DeAndre Jordan LAC 32 .649 12.0 16.0 1.0 .6 1.9 1.3 1.39
7.7 Tobias Harris Det 33 .567 20.8 6.0 2.0 .7 .9 .2 1.36
7.6 Dwight Howard Cha 30 .540 18.8 15.5 1.5 .7 4.6 1.3 1.52
41-50 - Kanter, Middleton, Draymond, R Jackson, D Booker, Nurkic, Lamb, K Thompson, A Gordon, TJ Warren
51-60 - Hardaway, Barnes, Schroder, D Collison, Butler, Tatum, J Brown, Covington, B Lopez, Favors
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:16 am
by Crow
Metrics will disagree and that can prompt useful thought about players and metrics.
RPM ranks DeRozan is a much, much lower tier.
His BPM valuation is closer to RPM. WS/48 closer to EWins. But all the others are lower on him than EWins. Any blend would pull him down, just a question of how far.
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:20 am
by Mike G
Well, I don't get it. The Raps are the 3rd best team in the league (SRS); DeRozan leads them in minutes, has 60% more FG and twice as many FT as anyone else. He also leads the team in steals and is 2nd in assists, by a wide margin.
How would they compete without him?
His on-off is slightly worse than their other 2 players who go more than 20 mpg, Lowry and Ibaka. Apparently their deep bench mops up on the opposition? They have 12 guys going 10 mpg or more.
I'm pretty sure their big 3 are not really their worst 3 players. Oh, Valanciunas is the 'worst' by on-off. So their top-4 lineup = their worst 4 players by on-off.??
Their coach seems like a pretty smart guy. He must know something.
Among 84 players going 30+ mpg, DD is
20th in eW/484, 28th in WS/48, 43rd in BPM, 19th in PER.
Last year in the same group, he ranks 11th, 21st, 49th, and 12th, respectively. But 63/84 in RPM.
Something smells fishy in plus-minus land.
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:31 pm
by Crow
Something may be fishy with RPM AND EVERYTHIING ELSE. The truth may be more likely in middle than either pole. The greater similarity in estimates on DeRozan is not convincing when the methods are relatively similar with most of the known design weaknesses, outright holes and context blindness being shared.
This is a case where RPM or RAPM factors would aid the investigation and discussion. On the raw factors, team does better on 4 with him on, 4 with him off. That sounds like he might be a middling player, not elite, not worthless. But raw data isn't good enough. And adjusted isn't as good as adjusted at factor level or multi -season or both.
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:27 pm
by Crow
The extreme on/off mark is raw on/off and not RPM. The difference between RPM and the box score metrics appears related to his moderately negative DRPM estimate. The box score metrics either lack shot defense or do it too generically / poorly. On offense the metrics are fairly close in their estimates. Makes pretty good sense to me. Adjusted plus minus techniques were employed because raw on /off was insensitive to differences in player qualities on the court and because box score metrics had known and pretty huge holes & inadequacies.
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:30 pm
by Mike G
At 39% of the season
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
17.8 James Harden Hou 36 .617 34.1 5.4 10.6 1.8 4.5 .5 2.90
16.9 LeBron James Cle 37 .647 28.4 8.2 9.9 1.5 4.2 1.1 2.67
15.9 Giannis A Mil 38 .597 28.9 10.7 4.3 1.8 2.7 1.3 2.57
14.8 R Westbrook OkC 36 .490 24.3 10.1 10.1 2.1 4.6 .2 2.42
12.5 D Cousins NOP 35 .570 24.8 12.8 5.0 1.6 5.3 1.5 2.08
11.8 Damian Lillard Por 37 .555 27.3 5.1 6.0 1.0 3.0 .5 1.94
11.6 DeMar DeRozan Tor 34 .574 27.4 4.9 5.9 1.3 2.7 .2 2.00
11.2 Kyrie Irving Bos 32 .596 30.9 3.4 6.0 1.4 2.6 .4 2.17
11.2 Karl-A Towns Min 36 .611 21.1 12.7 2.0 1.0 2.2 1.3 1.84
11.1 Andre Drummond Det 32 .550 16.1 17.4 4.1 1.6 3.3 1.4 2.02
e82 11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
11.0 Kevin Durant GSW 35 .612 27.1 7.7 6.2 .8 3.7 2.3 2.21
10.8 Anthony Davis NOP 35 .630 25.0 11.1 2.4 1.1 2.3 2.0 2.14
10.6 L Aldridge SAS 33 .552 25.6 9.5 2.2 .6 1.8 1.2 1.94
10.4 Victor Oladipo Ind 34 .586 26.6 5.9 4.0 1.9 3.3 1.0 1.83
10.1 Kevin Love Cle 29 .611 24.2 13.1 2.6 .8 2.3 .5 2.08
10.0 Kyle Lowry Tor 33 .594 18.8 7.4 8.7 1.2 3.0 .1 1.79
9.6 Stephen Curry GSW 33 .631 29.4 5.8 7.7 2.0 3.3 .2 2.41
9.5 Clint Capela Hou 26 .679 21.4 17.3 2.3 1.0 2.4 2.8 2.44
9.3 Nikola Vucevic Orl 31 .555 19.5 11.3 3.9 1.3 2.3 1.3 1.80
9.2 Ben Simmons Phl 37 .519 15.6 8.8 8.0 2.0 4.1 .8 1.54
e82 21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
8.9 Marc Gasol Mem 35 .518 19.6 9.6 4.0 .7 3.2 1.4 1.50
8.7 Jimmy Butler Min 37 .554 19.5 5.8 4.6 1.8 1.8 .3 1.48
8.7 Bradley Beal Was 35 .539 23.9 4.3 3.7 1.1 2.4 .5 1.45
8.6 DeAndre Jordan LAC 33 .636 13.1 17.2 1.3 .6 1.9 1.2 1.56
8.6 Kemba Walker Cha 35 .543 22.4 3.7 5.9 1.2 2.2 .2 1.55
8.5 Al Horford Bos 33 .597 17.0 9.0 6.7 .7 2.2 1.0 1.68
8.5 Joel Embiid Phl 31 .569 26.1 12.7 4.0 .8 4.8 2.1 2.14
8.3 Khris Middleton Mil 37 .572 20.1 5.4 4.4 1.2 2.2 .1 1.32
8.3 Nikola Jokic Den 30 .602 20.1 13.4 5.6 1.6 3.1 .8 2.12
8.2 K Porzingis NYK 32 .547 27.8 8.1 1.4 .7 2.7 2.2 1.87
e82 31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
8.1 Tyreke Evans Mem 30 .563 22.6 6.2 4.7 1.1 2.3 .5 1.63
7.8 Enes Kanter NYK 26 .633 20.6 15.4 2.0 1.0 2.4 .7 1.97
7.7 Dwight Howard Cha 29 .537 19.0 15.1 1.6 .6 4.2 1.5 1.55
7.6 Paul George OkC 37 .526 20.0 5.8 3.1 2.4 2.9 .6 1.28
7.5 C.J. McCollum Por 37 .543 22.4 4.0 2.9 .9 2.0 .4 1.25
7.1 Klay Thompson GSW 34 .609 21.3 4.6 3.1 .7 1.9 .7 1.23
7.1 Chris Paul Hou 31 .618 21.1 6.7 13.2 2.5 2.8 .5 2.61
7.0 Lou Williams LAC 31 .574 23.7 3.1 5.4 1.1 3.2 .2 1.38
7.0 Pau Gasol SAS 25 .556 16.8 12.4 4.4 .5 2.2 1.8 1.76
6.9 Zach Randolph Sac 26 .574 23.0 10.4 2.7 1.2 2.8 .3 1.72
41-50 - Barnes, Schroder, T Harris, Draymond, Griffin, Carmelo, Jr Holiday, Dinwiddie, Wall, S Adams
51-60 -- Warren, Porter, Tatum, A Gordon, R Jackson, Mitchell, D Booker, Nurkic, Barton, D Collison
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:42 pm
by Mike G
Season now at 49%
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
16.3 Russell Westbrook OkC 36 .501 26.1 10.3 10.6 2.0 4.7 .2 2.67
16.3 LeBron James Cle 37 .632 27.1 8.3 9.8 1.7 4.3 1.0 2.61
15.9 James Harden Hou 36 .612 33.3 5.3 10.5 1.8 4.5 .6 2.88
15.3 Giannis A Mil 38 .606 28.2 10.7 4.5 1.6 2.8 1.2 2.53
13.0 DeMarcus Cousins NOP 36 .580 24.5 13.2 5.1 1.6 5.2 1.6 2.16
12.3 DeMar DeRozan Tor 35 .568 28.0 4.7 5.8 1.3 2.5 .3 2.09
12.1 Karl-A Towns Min 36 .623 21.5 13.2 2.3 .9 2.2 1.6 2.00
11.7 Kyrie Irving Bos 33 .585 30.2 3.9 6.2 1.4 2.6 .4 2.23
11.6 Anthony Davis NOP 35 .626 25.3 11.1 2.4 1.1 2.1 2.2 2.23
11.5 LaMarcus Aldridge SAS 34 .553 26.3 9.8 2.2 .6 1.6 1.2 2.11
e82 #11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
11.0 Andre Drummond Det 33 .551 16.4 17.6 4.2 1.6 3.2 1.4 2.09
10.3 Kevin Durant GSW 35 .608 26.0 7.7 6.1 .8 3.5 2.4 2.18
10.2 Jimmy Butler Min 37 .571 21.9 5.7 5.2 1.9 2.0 .3 1.72
10.0 Damian Lillard Por 37 .558 27.2 5.0 6.1 1.0 3.3 .5 1.96
10.0 Kevin Love Cle 29 .604 24.3 12.8 2.3 .8 2.2 .6 2.09
9.8 Kyle Lowry Tor 33 .589 19.2 7.1 8.5 1.4 3.0 .1 1.80
9.8 Victor Oladipo Ind 34 .595 27.0 5.9 4.2 2.1 3.2 1.0 1.93
9.7 Stephen Curry GSW 33 .658 31.2 6.0 7.6 1.9 3.3 .2 2.58
9.6 Bradley Beal Was 36 .550 24.4 4.6 3.8 1.2 2.1 .5 1.59
9.4 Tyreke Evans Mem 31 .571 23.8 6.3 5.4 1.2 2.3 .4 1.85
e82 #21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
9.2 DeAndre Jordan LAC 33 .651 14.1 17.3 1.4 .5 1.9 1.2 1.66
9.1 Clint Capela Hou 26 .659 21.1 17.0 2.2 .9 2.4 2.7 2.36
9.1 Kemba Walker Cha 35 .540 22.7 3.6 6.2 1.3 2.2 .3 1.64
9.1 Ben Simmons Phl 36 .517 16.1 8.6 8.1 2.0 4.2 .9 1.55
9.0 Marc Gasol Mem 35 .517 19.4 9.7 4.1 .7 3.2 1.7 1.54
8.9 Joel Embiid Phl 31 .571 26.6 12.9 4.0 .7 5.0 2.4 2.21
8.8 Nikola Jokic Den 31 .586 19.2 12.8 6.1 1.5 3.3 .8 2.04
8.6 Kristaps Porzingis NYK 33 .529 26.4 8.0 1.3 .6 2.5 2.5 1.82
8.5 C.J. McCollum Por 37 .539 23.1 4.3 3.4 1.0 2.0 .3 1.40
8.5 Al Horford Bos 32 .595 16.9 9.0 6.7 .7 2.3 1.1 1.70
e82 #31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
8.3 Dwight Howard Cha 30 .539 19.4 15.2 1.9 .7 4.1 1.5 1.64
8.1 Paul George OkC 37 .565 22.2 5.8 3.1 2.3 3.0 .6 1.42
8.1 Enes Kanter NYK 25 .626 21.4 16.1 1.9 .9 2.6 .7 2.07
7.9 Khris Middleton Mil 37 .567 19.7 5.4 4.2 1.2 2.3 .2 1.26
7.9 Nikola Vucevic Orl 30 .553 20.0 11.5 3.9 1.3 2.4 1.4 1.87
7.8 Lou Williams LAC 31 .590 25.4 3.0 5.4 .9 3.3 .2 1.50
7.7 Tobias Harris Det 33 .574 21.3 6.2 2.0 .8 1.1 .3 1.38
7.7 Pau Gasol SAS 25 .554 17.3 12.9 5.0 .5 2.2 1.6 1.92
7.5 Chris Paul Hou 32 .595 20.5 6.7 13.0 2.2 3.2 .4 2.46
7.4 Dennis Schroder Atl 32 .510 21.2 3.6 7.3 1.3 3.1 .1 1.47
#41-50: Wall, Dray, Klay, Nurkic, Barnes, Melo, Dinwiddie, Griffin, Warren, Dragic
51-60: S Adams, Zach, D Mitchell, Booker, Porter, A Gordon, Tatum, J Holiday, RH-J, Favors
Westbrook has turned it up in the last 4 weeks:
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Gms TS% TRb% Ast% Blk% TO% Usg% ORt DRt GmSc
1-29 .479 14.8 48.8 0.3 16.7 34.0 101 102 17.5
30-41 .580 15.9 55.7 1.1 13.6 37.8 121 107 26.5
League total breakdown by position:
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pos %Min e484
C .190 1.37
PF .187 1.10
SF .175 .68
SG .246 .82
PG .202 1.09
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:56 pm
by Crow
Lots of coaches using SGs heavily. Under performing on this boxscore metric and probably RPM too. Emphasis on shooting 3s may have little recognized elsewhere effects on average.
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:31 am
by Mike G
Extrapolating to 82 games, xyz is the avg of RPM Wins, Win Shares, and VORP*2
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xyz mvp tm Wins WS vorp
16.2 LeBron Cle 15.0 14.9 9.3
15.5 Harden Hou 15.2 15.6 7.8
13.8 Giannis Mil 13.6 14.9 6.5
13.7 Westbrook OKC 15.1 10.3 7.8
12.7 Butler Min 15.0 12.5 5.3
12.0 Towns Min 13.0 13.0 5.0
11.4 Davis NOP 11.8 13.5 4.4
11.2 Cousins NOP 15.4 8.0 5.1
10.9 Curry GSW 11.4 11.1 5.1
10.3 Drummond Det 9.3 10.3 5.7
10.2 Oladipo Ind 12.6 8.9 4.5
10.1 Irving Bos 9.9 10.9 4.7
10.0 Lowry Tor 11.4 9.2 4.7
9.9 DeRozan Tor 10.0 12.3 3.7
9.7 Horford Bos 10.6 9.8 4.4
9.7 Durant GSW 9.7 10.2 4.6
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:45 pm
by Mike G
700 games played = 57% of the season.
A week ago, Drummond ranked #10 in the measure from previous post. He currently ranks #10 in eWins projected to the full season. A most perplexing All-Star omission.
Allstar selections marked with a star *
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
16.4 Russell Westbrook OkC * 36 .503 26.3 10.2 10.6 2.1 4.7 .2 2.71
14.9 LeBron James Cle * 37 .617 25.6 8.0 9.1 1.6 4.3 1.1 2.39
14.4 Giannis A Mil * 37 .599 27.4 10.8 4.4 1.5 2.7 1.2 2.48
14.2 James Harden Hou * 36 .604 32.0 5.1 10.3 1.9 4.6 .7 2.77
13.1 DeMarcus Cousins NOP * 36 .571 23.6 13.3 5.1 1.6 5.1 1.6 2.12
12.1 Karl-A Towns Min * 36 .626 20.9 13.4 2.5 .9 2.1 1.6 2.01
11.9 Anthony Davis NOP * 36 .622 25.2 10.9 2.4 1.1 2.0 2.1 2.22
11.7 DeMar DeRozan Tor * 35 .563 26.9 4.6 5.8 1.3 2.5 .3 2.00
11.5 Kyrie Irving Bos * 33 .585 29.7 4.1 5.9 1.3 2.7 .3 2.19
11.3 Andre Drummond Det 33 .559 16.3 17.7 4.3 1.7 3.1 1.4 2.12
e82 11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
11.3 LaMarcus Aldridge SAS * 34 .548 25.6 9.6 2.1 .6 1.7 1.2 2.04
10.7 Kevin Durant GSW * 35 .620 25.6 7.5 6.4 .9 3.4 2.1 2.18
10.4 Damian Lillard Por * 37 .571 26.8 4.8 6.4 1.0 3.2 .4 1.96
9.8 Jimmy Butler Min * 37 .577 21.6 5.7 5.0 2.0 1.9 .4 1.71
9.7 Victor Oladipo Ind * 34 .583 26.4 5.9 4.0 2.1 3.1 .9 1.87
9.5 Kevin Love Cle * 28 .599 22.8 12.9 2.2 .9 2.1 .6 2.01
9.4 Stephen Curry GSW * 33 .657 29.6 6.0 7.5 1.8 3.4 .1 2.46
9.4 Tyreke Evans Mem 31 .552 22.8 6.4 5.9 1.2 2.4 .3 1.81
9.3 Kemba Walker Cha 35 .540 22.8 3.6 6.3 1.3 2.2 .3 1.66
9.3 Kyle Lowry Tor * 33 .587 19.5 7.0 8.1 1.4 3.0 .1 1.78
e82 21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
9.2 Joel Embiid Phl * 31 .568 26.4 13.1 4.0 .7 5.0 2.1 2.19
9.1 Clint Capela Hou 26 .654 20.9 16.2 2.1 1.1 2.3 2.5 2.29
9.1 Bradley Beal Was * 36 .556 23.6 4.4 3.8 1.2 2.3 .4 1.49
9.1 Nikola Jokic Den 31 .560 18.9 13.0 6.0 1.5 3.3 .9 2.02
8.8 Marc Gasol Mem 34 .521 19.2 9.6 4.1 .8 3.1 1.5 1.54
8.8 Chris Paul Hou 32 .598 21.9 7.1 12.3 2.2 3.0 .5 2.58
8.5 Dwight Howard Cha 30 .539 18.6 15.3 1.8 .9 3.8 1.8 1.65
8.5 Ben Simmons Phl 35 .519 15.8 8.3 8.0 2.0 4.2 .9 1.47
8.3 Lou Williams LAC 32 .596 25.5 2.8 5.6 1.2 3.2 .2 1.56
8.3 Al Horford Bos * 33 .593 16.3 8.9 6.6 .7 2.2 1.1 1.63
e82 31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
8.2 Kristaps Porzingis NYK * 33 .527 24.8 7.9 1.3 .9 2.4 2.7 1.72
8.1 C.J. McCollum Por 36 .539 22.5 4.1 3.3 1.1 1.9 .4 1.35
8.1 Paul George OkC 36 .564 22.1 5.9 3.0 2.1 2.8 .6 1.41
8.0 Khris Middleton Mil 37 .562 19.5 5.7 4.1 1.2 2.3 .1 1.27
8.0 Enes Kanter NYK 25 .623 20.6 15.7 2.1 .8 2.6 .8 1.99
7.9 DeAndre Jordan LAC 32 .650 13.6 17.4 1.5 .5 1.9 1.2 1.62
7.8 Dennis Schroder Atl 32 .512 21.6 3.6 7.6 1.3 3.0 .1 1.55
7.5 John Wall Was * 34 .499 19.9 4.0 10.0 1.4 3.9 1.1 1.69
7.5 Pau Gasol SAS 25 .549 16.9 12.7 5.0 .5 2.2 1.6 1.86
7.5 Tobias Harris Det 33 .563 20.7 6.2 2.2 .8 1.2 .4 1.35
#41-50:
Draymond*, Griffin, Carmelo, Barnes, Nurkic, Vucevic, D Mitchell, Dinwiddie, D Booker, Jrue Holiday
51-60: S Adams, Whiteside, Dragic,
Thompson*, Warren, Dirk, Valanciunas, D Collison, Markkanen, Hollis-Jefferson
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:59 pm
by Mike G
At 76% of the season..
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
15.5 James Harden Hou 36 .610 32.8 5.6 10.4 1.9 4.4 .7 2.89
15.3 R Westbrook OkC 36 .510 25.1 10.1 10.7 2.0 4.8 .2 2.56
15.0 LeBron James Cle 37 .610 25.2 8.4 9.3 1.5 4.3 1.0 2.38
14.1 Giannis A Mil 37 .585 26.5 10.7 4.7 1.4 2.8 1.2 2.39
12.7 Anthony Davis NOP 37 .603 25.8 11.1 2.3 1.4 2.1 2.2 2.26
12.3 Karl-A Towns Min 35 .638 21.5 13.6 2.5 .8 2.1 1.5 2.08
11.6 Andre Drummond Det 33 .548 16.1 17.9 3.7 1.8 3.0 1.7 2.11
11.4 Damian Lillard Por 37 .587 28.2 4.6 6.3 1.0 3.1 .4 2.07
11.1 Kyrie Irving Bos 32 .603 30.0 4.3 6.2 1.2 2.6 .3 2.23
11.0 Kevin Durant GSW 34 .638 26.1 7.3 6.2 .8 3.3 1.9 2.17
e82 11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
11.0 DeMar DeRozan Tor 34 .550 25.5 4.4 6.1 1.3 2.4 .3 1.90
10.3 L Aldridge SAS 34 .556 25.2 9.2 2.3 .6 1.6 1.3 1.97
10.2 Nikola Jokic Den 31 .582 19.2 13.0 7.0 1.3 3.4 .9 2.15
10.0 D Cousins NOP 36 .570 23.2 13.0 5.2 1.7 5.2 1.6 2.06
9.8 Joel Embiid Phl 31 .565 26.4 13.4 3.9 .8 4.6 1.9 2.26
9.8 Stephen Curry GSW 33 .661 28.7 6.0 7.4 1.8 3.5 .1 2.33
9.8 Victor Oladipo Ind 34 .573 25.6 5.9 4.4 2.3 3.1 .8 1.86
9.6 Chris Paul Hou 32 .599 22.2 6.9 11.5 2.1 2.7 .4 2.51
9.6 Kemba Walker Cha 35 .563 23.9 3.4 6.1 1.3 2.3 .3 1.68
9.4 Ben Simmons Phl 35 .540 16.4 8.2 8.4 1.9 3.8 .9 1.63
e82 21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
9.3 Clint Capela Hou 27 .647 20.5 15.9 1.7 1.1 2.1 2.5 2.22
9.2 Kyle Lowry Tor 32 .580 19.2 6.7 8.1 1.4 2.7 .2 1.78
9.0 Jimmy Butler Min 37 .576 21.5 5.7 4.9 1.9 1.8 .4 1.69
8.9 Bradley Beal Was 36 .558 22.3 4.7 4.5 1.2 2.6 .4 1.44
8.8 Paul George OkC 37 .573 22.7 5.8 3.3 2.2 2.7 .5 1.50
8.7 Dwight Howard Cha 31 .549 18.3 15.1 1.8 .8 3.3 1.6 1.67
8.3 Enes Kanter NYK 26 .628 20.7 16.1 2.1 .7 2.7 .9 2.02
8.2 Lou Williams LAC 32 .580 24.5 2.8 5.9 1.2 3.2 .3 1.52
8.2 DeAndre Jordan LAC 32 .646 13.6 17.5 1.7 .7 2.1 1.2 1.66
8.2 Marc Gasol Mem 34 .517 18.4 9.8 4.2 .7 3.1 1.4 1.47
e82 31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
7.9 C.J. McCollum Por 36 .538 22.5 3.9 3.3 1.0 1.9 .4 1.31
7.8 Khris Middleton Mil 37 .563 19.6 5.6 4.0 1.3 2.4 .2 1.25
7.5 Al Horford Bos 32 .578 15.5 8.8 6.2 .7 2.3 1.1 1.52
7.3 Kevin Love Cle 28 .602 22.3 12.7 2.2 .9 2.0 .6 1.96
7.3 Tyreke Evans Mem 31 .554 22.3 6.3 5.8 1.2 2.5 .3 1.72
7.2 Jrue Holiday NOP 37 .567 17.4 4.4 5.5 1.4 2.6 .7 1.16
7.2 Pau Gasol SAS 25 .540 16.4 13.0 5.0 .5 2.3 1.5 1.83
7.2 Jusuf Nurkic Por 26 .508 20.3 11.9 2.7 1.2 3.4 2.0 1.69
7.1 Draymond Green GSW 33 .546 11.1 8.9 9.0 1.4 3.1 1.5 1.46
7.0 Dennis Schroder Atl 31 .507 20.6 3.8 7.2 1.4 3.2 .1 1.42
#41-50 - Porzingis, D Mitchell, Whiteside, Valanciunas, Dragic, S Adams, O Porter, Randle, Dinwiddie, Barnes
51-60: D Booker, Favors, K Thompson, Dirk, Bledsoe*, Saric, Sabonis, Carmelo, Barton, Griffin*
* Griffin and Bledsoe with LAC and Mil, respectively; include full season and they rank higher.
Others who are out of action (Butler, Porzingis, Love, ...) will not rank this highly at season's end.
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:16 pm
by Crow
Defensive rebounds make up a lot of ground lost elsewhere for Westbrook vs. Harden, here.
Re: eWins 2018
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:10 pm
by Mike G
Season at 86% -- does not include last night's games, sorry.
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
15.6 R Westbrook OkC 36 .515 25.4 10.1 10.8 1.8 4.9 .2 2.62
15.6 LeBron James Cle 37 .610 25.6 8.7 9.3 1.5 4.3 1.0 2.49
15.6 James Harden Hou 36 .611 32.8 5.7 10.3 1.9 4.5 .7 2.92
14.4 Giannis A Mil 37 .587 26.5 10.7 4.7 1.5 2.9 1.4 2.42
12.9 Anthony Davis NOP 36 .602 26.0 11.1 2.3 1.5 2.2 2.4 2.31
12.6 Karl-A Towns Min 35 .639 21.6 13.5 2.5 .8 2.1 1.5 2.10
11.8 Damian Lillard Por 36 .586 28.3 4.5 6.4 1.0 3.0 .4 2.11
11.5 Andre Drummond Det 33 .543 16.0 17.9 3.4 1.7 3.0 1.9 2.11
11.0 Kevin Durant GSW 35 .634 26.5 7.4 6.0 .8 3.3 2.0 2.21
10.8 DeMar DeRozan Tor 34 .549 25.3 4.4 6.2 1.2 2.5 .3 1.90
e82 11-20 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
10.6 Nikola Jokic Den 32 .594 19.3 12.9 7.0 1.4 3.3 .9 2.19
10.4 L Aldridge SAS 33 .555 25.5 9.4 2.3 .6 1.7 1.2 2.03
10.2 Kyrie Irving Bos 32 .602 29.6 4.4 6.2 1.3 2.7 .3 2.22
10.1 Joel Embiid Phl 31 .560 26.2 13.4 4.0 .8 4.7 2.1 2.27
10.0 Chris Paul Hou 32 .596 22.0 6.8 11.2 2.0 2.6 .3 2.48
10.0 Ben Simmons Phl 35 .540 16.1 8.4 9.0 1.8 3.8 .9 1.73
9.6 Victor Oladipo Ind 34 .562 25.2 5.9 4.3 2.5 3.2 .8 1.82
9.5 Kyle Lowry Tor 32 .590 19.3 6.6 8.5 1.4 2.7 .2 1.85
9.3 Kemba Walker Cha 35 .559 22.9 3.4 6.1 1.3 2.3 .3 1.62
9.1 Clint Capela Hou 27 .638 19.5 15.7 1.6 1.0 2.0 2.5 2.14
e82 21-30 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
9.1 Stephen Curry GSW 32 .662 29.1 6.0 7.3 1.9 3.5 .2 2.37
9.0 Bradley Beal Was 36 .558 22.2 4.7 4.8 1.2 2.7 .5 1.46
9.0 Dwight Howard Cha 30 .558 18.9 14.7 1.7 .8 3.2 2.0 1.75
8.9 DeAndre Jordan LAC 32 .641 13.8 17.9 1.8 .7 2.0 1.2 1.76
8.8 Paul George OkC 36 .567 22.1 5.9 3.4 2.1 2.8 .5 1.49
8.6 D Cousins NOP 36 .570 23.2 12.9 5.1 1.7 5.2 1.6 2.08
8.3 Jimmy Butler Min 37 .576 21.3 5.7 4.8 1.9 1.8 .4 1.70
8.3 Enes Kanter NYK 25 .625 20.5 16.5 2.1 .8 2.7 .8 2.07
8.2 C.J. McCollum Por 36 .539 22.4 4.0 3.4 .9 1.9 .5 1.36
8.1 Marc Gasol Mem 34 .519 18.3 9.8 4.2 .7 3.0 1.5 1.52
e82 31-40 tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast Stl TO Blk e484
7.8 Lou Williams LAC 33 .567 23.7 2.8 5.7 1.2 3.2 .3 1.43
7.8 Khris Middleton Mil 37 .571 19.6 5.6 3.9 1.3 2.4 .2 1.26
7.6 Jusuf Nurkic Por 26 .512 20.6 12.6 2.9 1.1 3.5 2.0 1.80
7.5 Jrue Holiday NOP 37 .561 17.5 4.4 5.8 1.4 2.6 .8 1.22
7.4 J Valanciunas Tor 23 .616 21.2 14.9 2.2 .7 2.6 1.5 2.06
7.3 Draymond Green GSW 33 .543 11.3 9.1 8.8 1.5 3.1 1.5 1.50
7.3 Al Horford Bos 32 .565 15.3 8.8 6.1 .7 2.3 1.2 1.51
7.2 D Mitchell Uta 33 .536 22.3 4.3 4.2 1.6 3.0 .4 1.34
7.2 Julius Randle LAL 26 .596 21.0 10.7 3.4 .8 3.5 .8 1.61
7.1 Pau Gasol SAS 24 .533 16.2 12.8 5.1 .5 2.3 1.6 1.85
#41-50: Dragic, Schroder, S Adams, O Porter, Whiteside, T Evans, Love, Barnes, Dinwiddie, Porzingis
51-60: Vucevic, Bledsoe, Favors, Nowitzki, Saric, Gobert, Rubio, D Booker, K Thompson, Barton