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2015 Finals: Cavs vs Warriors
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Re: 2015 Finals: Cavs vs Warriors
I thought this was a perceptive tweet from Nate Silver ✔@NateSilver538:
While value metrics are answering a slightly different question, I do think the obvious truth of Nate's counterfactual should call into question any metric that suggests Iguodala was as or more valuable than LeBron .If Warriors had LeBron and Cavs had Iguodala, average game score would be roughly 147 to -6.
Re: 2015 Finals: Cavs vs Warriors
On the one hand, the stats don't perceive that Iggy helped slow LeBron quite a bit. Here, "slow" means keeping his shooting% well below his norm.
On the other hand, stats that show Iggy shooting very well, doing other things, and not turning it over -- that last one apparently gives him the WS edge over Curry -- fail to recognize that he had lots of open looks, and open lanes, due to his teammates. He's the 4th option out there, if not the 5th.
Statisticians will usually say, let him take those shots: He can't keep hitting .050 above his norm from the arc, nor .090 better from inside it.
To me, the better "what if" is how does the series play out if the Cavs had either Irving or Love. Two superstars has always been the tipping point, it seems.
What if they'd had all 3? A better series it would have been.
Switch LeBron and Iggy, and you have the greatest team of all times, no doubt. But MVP must come from the winning team.
What boggles my mind is that nobody voted for Curry. I read 7 for Ig, 4 for LeBron.
Who are these voters, anyway?
There must have been some collusion. Otherwise, we might have had LeBron 4, Iggy 3, Steph 3, Green 1.
xyz = 7th root of the product of these (not minutes)
On the other hand, stats that show Iggy shooting very well, doing other things, and not turning it over -- that last one apparently gives him the WS edge over Curry -- fail to recognize that he had lots of open looks, and open lanes, due to his teammates. He's the 4th option out there, if not the 5th.
Statisticians will usually say, let him take those shots: He can't keep hitting .050 above his norm from the arc, nor .090 better from inside it.
To me, the better "what if" is how does the series play out if the Cavs had either Irving or Love. Two superstars has always been the tipping point, it seems.
What if they'd had all 3? A better series it would have been.
Switch LeBron and Iggy, and you have the greatest team of all times, no doubt. But MVP must come from the winning team.
What boggles my mind is that nobody voted for Curry. I read 7 for Ig, 4 for LeBron.
Who are these voters, anyway?
There must have been some collusion. Otherwise, we might have had LeBron 4, Iggy 3, Steph 3, Green 1.
xyz = 7th root of the product of these (not minutes)
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xyz mvp? Min PER e484 eWins WS WS/48 BPM vorp
2.22 LeBron 275 26.3 2.84 1.57 .90 .156 13.7 1.08
1.61 Curry 255 20.2 2.09 1.07 .83 .156 6.5 .54
1.42 Iguodala 223 18.0 1.53 .69 .92 .198 5.8 .43
1.37 Green 222 16.3 1.56 .70 .81 .176 6.3 .46
Re: 2015 Finals: Cavs vs Warriors
Agreed. The probability that the seven non-LeBron voters would all independently settle on Iggy, with zero for Curry, seems vanishingly small.What boggles my mind is that nobody voted for Curry. I read 7 for Ig, 4 for LeBron. Who are these voters, anyway?
There must have been some collusion. Otherwise, we might have had LeBron 4, Iggy 3, Steph 3, Green 1.
The voters:
Andre Iguodala:
Sam Amick, USA Today
Ken Berger of CBSSports.com
Hubie Brown, ESPN Radio
Jason Lloyd, Akron Beacon Journal
Rusty Simmons, San Francisco Chronicle
Marc Spears, Yahoo Sports
Marc Stein, ESPN
LeBron James:
Steve Aschburner, NBA.com
Howard Beck, Bleacher Report
Zach Lowe, Grantland
Jeff Van Gundy, ABC