David Griffin Out of Cleveland
Re: David Griffin Out of Cleveland
I'm with you on the James/Love deals, of course (especially in light of how bad Wiggins has been). And again, I'm not saying Griffin is a *bad* gm, just that he's an average GM. He's accumulated a significant body of work since the James/Love trades, and he deserves credit for not bungling things during that time like a bad GM might've. But not a single player in the supporting cast last year outperformed his contract (or price paid via trade). Frye is closest, but again, not on the same page with Lue apparently seeing as he didn't play against the Warriors. Everything points to "average" in my opinion.
Re: David Griffin Out of Cleveland
$2 million per year to Billups, someone with no front office experience, was not imo an unfair offer, especially over 5 years. If GMs tend to get fired before contract is over, the effective rate is higher. But perhaps Billups likes ESPN's money for seemingly very little effort or responsibility better.
And Gilbert has tried to make it seem to be just a business disagreement instead of personal or ungrateful. Is it cheap to pay someone $2 mil / yr if they need / want someone else hired to do much / most of the work? I don't think so. If Billups wanted a far sweeter deal, he didn't make a compelling case for it. That some people have gotten those doesn't make that an entitlement. So ok, not a President now. Will he get the kind of offer he wanted somewhere else? Seems unlikely, unless it is to replace Stan Van Gundy in 1, 3, 5, 7 years. If still with no front office experience I'd look elsewhere or offer a similar relative salary to going rate for those with major experience / managerial achievement.
But if you are thinking of compensation like a player then you want more than $2 mil / yr. If you see what Redick got and think you are a plus 1 or better impact GM, then you want far, far, far more than $2 mil. You want more money and authority to give high paying jobs to friends or people of your choice. Different ways to look at it. He wanted the NBA version of WOJ bomb sweet, which would be more or much more. Doc Rivers' sweet? Or just Clippers' Jerry West sweet? The money is big. Big, bigger, Phil Jackson crazy, then lucky role player today crazy.
And Gilbert has tried to make it seem to be just a business disagreement instead of personal or ungrateful. Is it cheap to pay someone $2 mil / yr if they need / want someone else hired to do much / most of the work? I don't think so. If Billups wanted a far sweeter deal, he didn't make a compelling case for it. That some people have gotten those doesn't make that an entitlement. So ok, not a President now. Will he get the kind of offer he wanted somewhere else? Seems unlikely, unless it is to replace Stan Van Gundy in 1, 3, 5, 7 years. If still with no front office experience I'd look elsewhere or offer a similar relative salary to going rate for those with major experience / managerial achievement.
But if you are thinking of compensation like a player then you want more than $2 mil / yr. If you see what Redick got and think you are a plus 1 or better impact GM, then you want far, far, far more than $2 mil. You want more money and authority to give high paying jobs to friends or people of your choice. Different ways to look at it. He wanted the NBA version of WOJ bomb sweet, which would be more or much more. Doc Rivers' sweet? Or just Clippers' Jerry West sweet? The money is big. Big, bigger, Phil Jackson crazy, then lucky role player today crazy.
Re: David Griffin Out of Cleveland
Avg gm salary is about 4 million. Billups probably wasn't qualified to be GM as he has no FO experience, so paying 2 mil isn't too bad, but when you combine with the situation in Cleveland and the reports about staffing concerns, 2 mil isn't worth it.