Hi, I am looking to understand what are some of the commonly used sources for getting play-by-play data of the Euroleague and country-specific European (Spanish, Turkish, Italian, etc.) leagues. If there are no publicly available sources, does someone have experience with data vendors in this field?
I would like to play around with some Euro data and more generally, I am curious to know how pervasive data-based analysis is in Europe. Would be great if someone can comment on this. Thank you kindly in advance.
European play-by-play data source
European play-by-play data source
Last edited by Emanuel M on Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: European play-by-play data source
The german league used to have PlayByPlay, then took it back down, but now seems to be up again
You should see it e.g. here
http://www.easycredit-bbl.de/de/n/spiel ... ialnavi=33
I have no idea about data quality or how far back it goes, though
You should see it e.g. here
http://www.easycredit-bbl.de/de/n/spiel ... ialnavi=33
I have no idea about data quality or how far back it goes, though
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Re: European play-by-play data source
ACB Spanish league you can find the play by play here for only one game: http://www.acb.com/jv/partido.php?c=743198 To arraive to that place is not easy if you don't speak spanish. I'm trying to post all the steps:
1. Access to actual "Gameweek": http://www.acb.com/jv/
Here you've got all the games of the actual gameweek. If you want to access to passed gameweeks you have to make click over left arrow of "Jornada X", right arrow to advance.
2. To access to the complete stats of a game you have to make clic over the result of the game, for example, we've got the game Estudiantes 80 - F.C. Barcelona 70. You have to make click over the values 80 or 70, not over icons
3. When you are inside, if you want to go to the "play by play" you have to make click over "Jugada a Jugada"
And that's all!!! I hope that I help you.
1. Access to actual "Gameweek": http://www.acb.com/jv/
Here you've got all the games of the actual gameweek. If you want to access to passed gameweeks you have to make click over left arrow of "Jornada X", right arrow to advance.
2. To access to the complete stats of a game you have to make clic over the result of the game, for example, we've got the game Estudiantes 80 - F.C. Barcelona 70. You have to make click over the values 80 or 70, not over icons
3. When you are inside, if you want to go to the "play by play" you have to make click over "Jugada a Jugada"
And that's all!!! I hope that I help you.
Re: European play-by-play data source
Thank you both! Though I am wondering: is there a source that gives such data for European leagues, but including location (x,y) coordinates of shots made/attempted as is common in NBA play-by-play data?
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josecarlos
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Re: European play-by-play data source
Ufff!!! The location of shots!!! ACB Spanish League gives you a graphic about the shoots, but in this graphic doesn't appear which player has made which shoot, it is only a team level graphic. I don't know if this graphic is generated previously in the server or the server send the data to the browser and then draw the graphic.
Re: European play-by-play data source
There's a lot of data returned in JSON files via AJAX requests after the page has loaded, including what appears to be play-by-play data, but it's difficult to parse through and I cannot tell if the shots are included in those files.
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Follow Up: European play-by-play data source
Emmanuel, as a business owner in this area, I am sad to say that the leagues you are seeking data - play by play data for are really tough to get... mainly due to NDA issues
The Turkish Basketball Federation recently signed a 5 year deal with Genius Sports in terms of their data restructuring which makes their leagues the hardest to obtain data for...
While certain shot chart data can be obtained the play by play information is so far secured behind the federation's firewall its not even worth messing around with.
A similar case applies for the Italian Serie A league and the Italian Basketball Federation...
I saw that some leagues were mentioned so wont get into them...
I am compiling data that would cover FIBA Europe's league structures as well as Euroleague's data under one roof... hopefully this data will allow my clients to be enlightened and I will also be looking at sharing certain data visualized differently on http://advanceprobasketball.com
The Turkish Basketball Federation recently signed a 5 year deal with Genius Sports in terms of their data restructuring which makes their leagues the hardest to obtain data for...
While certain shot chart data can be obtained the play by play information is so far secured behind the federation's firewall its not even worth messing around with.
A similar case applies for the Italian Serie A league and the Italian Basketball Federation...
I saw that some leagues were mentioned so wont get into them...
I am compiling data that would cover FIBA Europe's league structures as well as Euroleague's data under one roof... hopefully this data will allow my clients to be enlightened and I will also be looking at sharing certain data visualized differently on http://advanceprobasketball.com
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josecarlos
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Re: Follow Up: European play-by-play data source
Hi Ermay Duran,ermayduran wrote:Emmanuel, as a business owner in this area, I am sad to say that the leagues you are seeking data - play by play data for are really tough to get... mainly due to NDA issues
The Turkish Basketball Federation recently signed a 5 year deal with Genius Sports in terms of their data restructuring which makes their leagues the hardest to obtain data for...
While certain shot chart data can be obtained the play by play information is so far secured behind the federation's firewall its not even worth messing around with.
A similar case applies for the Italian Serie A league and the Italian Basketball Federation...
I saw that some leagues were mentioned so wont get into them...
I am compiling data that would cover FIBA Europe's league structures as well as Euroleague's data under one roof... hopefully this data will allow my clients to be enlightened and I will also be looking at sharing certain data visualized differently on http://advanceprobasketball.com
I think that all federation gives at least the basic statistics for the fans, here you've got some examples:
ACB (Spanish league)
http://www.acb.com/jv/partido.php?c=743215
LEGA Basket Serie A (Italian league)
http://web.legabasket.it/game/67006/the ... cant-82:93
VTB League
http://www.vtb-league.com/en/game/3167451/#stat
In some of them gives you play by play even. Ok, you don't have access to any databases or any file with the stats, but you can define a process to get all the data from the web. I know, is not the best way but it's much more than anything.
I have created a web of advanced stats for spanish women basketball league and I get all the data from the Spanish Federation Baskeball web.
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ermayduran
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Re: Follow Up: European play-by-play data source
Jose, I can appreciate basic stats but I am more into the backend data.
I did a project called Just Live Basketball a while ago that is still live, we did it with a colleague working at the Turkish Basketball Federation.
Basic stats are a part of the collective agreement all the clubs sign in to when registering for the new season to which ever federation they are a part of.
I do appreciate that you have pointed out that you are doing something for the women's end I think there is a long way to go there too.
All the best,
I did a project called Just Live Basketball a while ago that is still live, we did it with a colleague working at the Turkish Basketball Federation.
Basic stats are a part of the collective agreement all the clubs sign in to when registering for the new season to which ever federation they are a part of.
I do appreciate that you have pointed out that you are doing something for the women's end I think there is a long way to go there too.
All the best,
josecarlos wrote:Hi Ermay Duran,ermayduran wrote:Emmanuel, as a business owner in this area, I am sad to say that the leagues you are seeking data - play by play data for are really tough to get... mainly due to NDA issues
The Turkish Basketball Federation recently signed a 5 year deal with Genius Sports in terms of their data restructuring which makes their leagues the hardest to obtain data for...
While certain shot chart data can be obtained the play by play information is so far secured behind the federation's firewall its not even worth messing around with.
A similar case applies for the Italian Serie A league and the Italian Basketball Federation...
I saw that some leagues were mentioned so wont get into them...
I am compiling data that would cover FIBA Europe's league structures as well as Euroleague's data under one roof... hopefully this data will allow my clients to be enlightened and I will also be looking at sharing certain data visualized differently on http://advanceprobasketball.com
I think that all federation gives at least the basic statistics for the fans, here you've got some examples:
ACB (Spanish league)
http://www.acb.com/jv/partido.php?c=743215
LEGA Basket Serie A (Italian league)
http://web.legabasket.it/game/67006/the ... cant-82:93
VTB League
http://www.vtb-league.com/en/game/3167451/#stat
In some of them gives you play by play even. Ok, you don't have access to any databases or any file with the stats, but you can define a process to get all the data from the web. I know, is not the best way but it's much more than anything.
I have created a web of advanced stats for spanish women basketball league and I get all the data from the Spanish Federation Baskeball web.
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Re: Follow Up: European play-by-play data source
Thank you Emay!!!ermayduran wrote:Jose, I can appreciate basic stats but I am more into the backend data.
I did a project called Just Live Basketball a while ago that is still live, we did it with a colleague working at the Turkish Basketball Federation.
Basic stats are a part of the collective agreement all the clubs sign in to when registering for the new season to which ever federation they are a part of.
I do appreciate that you have pointed out that you are doing something for the women's end I think there is a long way to go there too.
All the best,
josecarlos wrote:Hi Ermay Duran,ermayduran wrote:Emmanuel, as a business owner in this area, I am sad to say that the leagues you are seeking data - play by play data for are really tough to get... mainly due to NDA issues
The Turkish Basketball Federation recently signed a 5 year deal with Genius Sports in terms of their data restructuring which makes their leagues the hardest to obtain data for...
While certain shot chart data can be obtained the play by play information is so far secured behind the federation's firewall its not even worth messing around with.
A similar case applies for the Italian Serie A league and the Italian Basketball Federation...
I saw that some leagues were mentioned so wont get into them...
I am compiling data that would cover FIBA Europe's league structures as well as Euroleague's data under one roof... hopefully this data will allow my clients to be enlightened and I will also be looking at sharing certain data visualized differently on http://advanceprobasketball.com
I think that all federation gives at least the basic statistics for the fans, here you've got some examples:
ACB (Spanish league)
http://www.acb.com/jv/partido.php?c=743215
LEGA Basket Serie A (Italian league)
http://web.legabasket.it/game/67006/the ... cant-82:93
VTB League
http://www.vtb-league.com/en/game/3167451/#stat
In some of them gives you play by play even. Ok, you don't have access to any databases or any file with the stats, but you can define a process to get all the data from the web. I know, is not the best way but it's much more than anything.
I have created a web of advanced stats for spanish women basketball league and I get all the data from the Spanish Federation Baskeball web.
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ermayduran
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Re: European play-by-play data source
People, I think its worth sharing that a polish analyst by the name of Bartosz I know has managed to crack into a few spots to create what is needed here...
I hope it helps out with regards to European PbP data sourcing:
Its R based but eventually I think with tableau public visualising the data can be done...
https://github.com/bziarkowski/euRobasket
best regards,
Ermay
http://advanceprobasketball.com
I hope it helps out with regards to European PbP data sourcing:
Its R based but eventually I think with tableau public visualising the data can be done...
https://github.com/bziarkowski/euRobasket
best regards,
Ermay
http://advanceprobasketball.com
Re: European play-by-play data source
Bartosz doing a great job. Check shot chart for Polish league http://www.pulsbasketu.pl/mapy-plk/ermayduran wrote:People, I think its worth sharing that a polish analyst by the name of Bartosz I know has managed to crack into a few spots to create what is needed here...
I hope it helps out with regards to European PbP data sourcing:
Its R based but eventually I think with tableau public visualising the data can be done...
https://github.com/bziarkowski/euRobasket
best regards,
Ermay
http://advanceprobasketball.com