2021-22 team win prediction contest
Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
0 games projected for Kyrie. 72 each for Harden and Durant. My projections might be a little low on Durant, and keep in mind this is a regular season projection, not playoff. Once you up the minutes for Harden and Durant in the playoffs, they become a title contender.
Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
Fair, does sound like you're lower on KD than me too.
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OK thanks. I failed to navigate it.Crow wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:52 pm Would expect 538 to have team projections / page based on past.
And here they are as of this morning.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... edictions/
Click a team to see player details included projected minutes.
Minute projections look reckless: Embiid granted 34 mpg. He has never gone over 26 mpg over a whole season; last 2 years 21-22.
Giannis given 35 mpg, despite last 3 years at 27-29 mpg.
To my memory, 538 has not done real well in the contest; maybe this is why?
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Alright, barring a surprise trade or injury update prior to the season I think this will be it.
Nets 58
Bucks 57
Heat 53
Hawks 50
Sixers 49
Celtics 45
Bulls 42
Pacers 41
Knicks 38
Raptors 37
Hornets 34
Wizards 33
Cavs 25
Pistons 21
Magic 17
Jazz 58
Suns 57
Warriors 53
Nuggets 50
Lakers 49
Blazers 48
Mavs 47
Grizzlies 42
Kings 41
Pelicans 38
Clippers 37
Spurs 36
Wolves 33
Thunder 24
Rockets 17
Nets 58
Bucks 57
Heat 53
Hawks 50
Sixers 49
Celtics 45
Bulls 42
Pacers 41
Knicks 38
Raptors 37
Hornets 34
Wizards 33
Cavs 25
Pistons 21
Magic 17
Jazz 58
Suns 57
Warriors 53
Nuggets 50
Lakers 49
Blazers 48
Mavs 47
Grizzlies 42
Kings 41
Pelicans 38
Clippers 37
Spurs 36
Wolves 33
Thunder 24
Rockets 17
Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
BRef has performance projections out but per 36 minutes and not predicting minutes.
I haven't look at 538 / Raptor minutes closely.
I don't see anything crazy in your projections Eminence. There are a few teams where going against conventional wisdom might payoff.
I haven't look at 538 / Raptor minutes closely.
I don't see anything crazy in your projections Eminence. There are a few teams where going against conventional wisdom might payoff.
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The one that felt the wildest when I was typing them up was probably the Kings.
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Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
i'll transcribe Hollinger's projections into here sometime before the season starts
https://theathletic.com/2880800/2021/10 ... e-ceiling/
https://theathletic.com/2880800/2021/10 ... e-ceiling/
Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
I took the 538 minutes projections and averaged them with a fantasy site and came up with this, which I will be using.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1543820123
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... edictions/
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tm mpg
Atl 34.0 Trae Young
Atl 29.0 Clint Capela
Atl 29.0 John Collins
Atl 29.0 Bogdan Bogdanović
Atl 29.0 De'Andre Hunter
Atl 19.0 Kevin Huerter
Atl 18.5 Cam Reddish
Atl 17.0 Danilo Gallinari
Atl 12.0 Delon Wright
Atl 11.0 Gorgui Dieng
Atl 7.5 Lou Williams
Atl 5.0 Solomon Hill
Atl 0.0
Bos 36.0 Jayson Tatum
Bos 34.5 Jaylen Brown
Bos 30.5 Marcus Smart
Bos 28.0 Dennis Schröder
Bos 23.5 Al Horford
Bos 21.5 Robert Williams
Bos 21.5 Josh Richardson
Bos 16.0 Aaron Nesmith
Bos 14.0 Payton Pritchard
Bos 7.0 Grant Williams
Bos 5.5 Romeo Langford
Bos 1.0 Juan Hernangómez
Bos 1.0 Enes Kanter
Bos 0.0
Brk 35.0 James Harden
Brk 32.0 Kevin Durant
Brk 29.0 Joe Harris
Brk 20.5 Patty Mills
Brk 20.0 Blake Griffin
Brk 20.0 LaMarcus Aldridge
Brk 19.5 Bruce Brown
Brk 16.5 Kyrie Irving
Brk 13.5 Nicolas Claxton
Brk 13.5 Paul Millsap
Brk 7.0 DeAndre' Bembry
Brk 6.5 James Johnson
Brk 6.5 Jevon Carter
Brk 0.5 Cameron Thomas
Brk 0.0
Cha 32.5 LaMelo Ball
Cha 32.0 Terry Rozier
Cha 30.5 Gordon Hayward
Cha 29.0 Miles Bridges
Cha 26.5 P.J. Washington
Cha 22.5 Mason Plumlee
Cha 21.5 Kelly Oubre Jr.
Cha 13.0 James Bouknight
Cha 8.0 Ish Smith
Cha 6.0 Cody Martin
Cha 5.5 Jalen McDaniels
Cha 5.5 Wesley Iwundu
Cha 5.0 Kai Jones
Cha 1.5 Nick Richards
Cha 1.0 Vernon Carey Jr.
Cha 0.0
Chi 34.5 Zach LaVine
Chi 31.5 Lonzo Ball
Chi 31.0 Nikola Vučević
Chi 31.0 DeMar DeRozan
Chi 30.0 Patrick Williams
Chi 18.5 Alex Caruso
Chi 17.0 Tony Bradley
Chi 14.5 Derrick Jones Jr.
Chi 11.0 Coby White
Chi 7.5 Alize Johnson
Chi 5.5 Troy Brown Jr.
Chi 5.5 Marko Simonovic
Chi 0.0
Cle 33.0 Collin Sexton
Cle 32.0 Isaac Okoro
Cle 32.0 Darius Garland
Cle 26.0 Jarrett Allen
Cle 26.0 Evan Mobley
Cle 19.5 Kevin Love
Cle 19.0 Lauri Markkanen
Cle 18.5 Ricky Rubio
Cle 16.5 Cedi Osman
Cle 7.0 Lamar Stevens
Cle 6.0 Denzel Valentine
Cle 4.5 Dean Wade
Cle 0.0
Dal 36.0 Luka Dončić
Dal 29.5 Dorian Finney-Smith
Dal 29.5 Kristaps Porziņģis
Dal 28.5 Tim Hardaway Jr.
Dal 24.0 Maxi Kleber
Dal 21.5 Reggie Bullock
Dal 19.5 Jalen Brunson
Dal 16.0 Dwight Powell
Dal 12.5 Willie Cauley-Stein
Dal 8.0 Sterling Brown
Dal 5.0 Trey Burke
Dal 5.0 Josh Green
Dal 5.0 Frank Ntilikina
Dal 0.0
Den 35.0 Nikola Jokić
Den 32.0 Michael Porter Jr.
Den 29.0 Aaron Gordon
Den 28.5 Will Barton
Den 26.5 Monte Morris
Den 20.0 Facundo Campazzo
Den 17.0 Austin Rivers
Den 15.5 Jeff Green
Den 15.5 PJ Dozier
Den 14.5 JaMychal Green
Den 6.5 Zeke Nnaji
Den 0.0
Det 31.5 Jerami Grant
Det 30.5 Cade Cunningham
Det 29.0 Saddiq Bey
Det 27.5 Isaiah Stewart
Det 26.0 Killian Hayes
Det 21.0 Kelly Olynyk
Det 19.0 Hamidou Diallo
Det 18.5 Cory Joseph
Det 18.0 Josh Jackson
Det 12.5 Trey Lyles
Det 6.0 Isaiah Livers
Det 0.5 Luke Garza
Det 0.0
GSW 34.0 Stephen Curry
GSW 33.0 Andrew Wiggins
GSW 30.0 Draymond Green
GSW 24.0 Jordan Poole
GSW 22.0 Kevon Looney
GSW 21.0 Otto Porter
GSW 16.0 Andre Iguodala
GSW 14.0 Klay Thompson
GSW 8.0 James Wiseman
GSW 7.5 Nemanja Bjelica
GSW 7.5 Moses Moody
GSW 7.0 Juan Toscano-Anderson
GSW 7.0 Damion Lee
GSW 7.0 Jonathan Kuminga
GSW 2.0 Chris Chiozza
GSW 0.0
Hou 31.5 Christian Wood
Hou 31.5 Jalen Green
Hou 31.0 Kevin Porter Jr.
Hou 25.0 Daniel Theis
Hou 23.5 Jae'Sean Tate
Hou 22.5 Eric Gordon
Hou 18.5 Danuel House
Hou 18.0 Kenyon Martin Jr.
Hou 16.5 Alperen Sengun
Hou 10.0 D.J. Augustin
Hou 6.0 David Nwaba
Hou 3.5 ?
Hou 1.0 Anthony Lamb
Hou 0.5 Dante Exum
Hou 0.5 Armoni Brooks
Hou 0.5 Daishen Nix
Hou 0.0
Ind 34.0 Domantas Sabonis
Ind 31.0 Myles Turner
Ind 30.5 Malcolm Brogdon
Ind 24.0 T.J. McConnell
Ind 18.5 Justin Holiday
Ind 16.0 Caris LeVert
Ind 15.5 Goga Bitadze
Ind 15.5 Chris Duarte
Ind 15.0 T.J. Warren
Ind 11.5 Jeremy Lamb
Ind 9.5 Oshae Brissett
Ind 8.5 Torrey Craig
Ind 8.0 Brad Wanamaker
Ind 2.5 Isaiah Jackson
Ind 0.0
LAC 34.5 Paul George
LAC 27.0 Nicolas Batum
LAC 26.5 Marcus Morris
LAC 26.0 Reggie Jackson
LAC 25.0 Terance Mann
LAC 25.0 Eric Bledsoe
LAC 23.5 Ivica Zubac
LAC 18.5 Luke Kennard
LAC 16.5 Justise Winslow
LAC 11.0 Serge Ibaka
LAC 3.0 Keon Johnson
LAC 2.5 Isaiah Hartenstein
LAC 0.5 Amir Coffey
LAC 0.5 Jay Scrubb
LAC 0.0
LAL 34.0 LeBron James
LAL 34.0 Anthony Davis
LAL 33.5 Russell Westbrook
LAL 22.0 Kendrick Nunn
LAL 21.0 Kent Bazemore
LAL 18.0 Wayne Ellington
LAL 17.5 Carmelo Anthony
LAL 17.0 Dwight Howard
LAL 13.0 DeAndre Jordan
LAL 10.0 Talen Horton-Tucker
LAL 8.0 Rajon Rondo
LAL 8.0 Trevor Ariza
LAL 4.0 Malik Monk
LAL 0.0
Mem 33.0 Ja Morant
Mem 29.0 Jaren Jackson Jr.
Mem 27.0 Kyle Anderson
Mem 26.0 Steven Adams
Mem 24.5 Desmond Bane
Mem 21.0 De'Anthony Melton
Mem 19.0 Brandon Clarke
Mem 18.5 Xavier Tillman Sr.
Mem 18.0 Tyus Jones
Mem 15.0 Dillon Brooks
Mem 4.5 Kris Dunn
Mem 4.5 Jarrett Culver
Mem 0.0
Mia 33.0 Bam Adebayo
Mia 33.0 Jimmy Butler
Mia 31.5 Kyle Lowry
Mia 30.0 Duncan Robinson
Mia 26.5 Tyler Herro
Mia 24.0 P.J. Tucker
Mia 17.0 Markieff Morris
Mia 14.0 Dewayne Dedmon
Mia 11.0 Max Strus
Mia 8.5 Gabe Vincent
Mia 8.0 KZ Okpala
Mia 3.0 Caleb Martin
Mia 0.5 Omer Yurtseven
Mia 0.0
Mil 34.0 Giannis Antetokounmpo
Mil 32.5 Khris Middleton
Mil 32.0 Jrue Holiday
Mil 26.5 Brook Lopez
Mil 25.0 Donte DiVincenzo
Mil 21.5 Bobby Portis
Mil 21.0 Pat Connaughton
Mil 16.5 George Hill
Mil 15.5 Grayson Allen
Mil 7.5 Semi Ojeleye
Mil 5.0 Jordan Nwora
Mil 1.0 Thanasis Antetokounmpo
Mil 0.5 Tremont Waters
Mil 0.5 Justin Robinson
Mil 0.5 Rodney Hood
Mil 0.5 Sandro Mamukelashvili
Mil 0.0
Min 34.0 Karl-Anthony Towns
Min 32.5 Anthony Edwards
Min 30.5 D'Angelo Russell
Min 29.5 Malik Beasley
Min 27.5 Jaden McDaniels
Min 19.0 Patrick Beverley
Min 15.5 Taurean Prince
Min 15.0 Josh Okogie
Min 15.0 Jarred Vanderbilt
Min 15.5 Naz Reid
Min 6.0 Jaylen Nowell
Min 0.0
NOP 37.5 Brandon Ingram
NOP 30.0 Devonte' Graham
NOP 28.5 Jonas Valančiūnas
NOP 27.0 Nickeil Alexander-Walker
NOP 21.0 Jaxson Hayes
NOP 20.5 Josh Hart
NOP 17.0 Tomáš Satoranský
NOP 16.5 Zion Williamson
NOP 15.5 Kira Lewis Jr.
NOP 9.0 Trey Murphy
NOP 8.0 Willy Hernangómez
NOP 7.5 Naji Marshall
NOP 2.0 Garrett Temple
NOP 0.0
NYK 35.0 Julius Randle
NYK 31.0 RJ Barrett
NYK 29.5 Kemba Walker
NYK 29.0 Evan Fournier
NYK 26.5 Mitchell Robinson
NYK 21.0 Derrick Rose
NYK 17.5 Nerlens Noel
NYK 15.0 Alec Burks
NYK 15.0 Immanuel Quickley
NYK 10.0 Obi Toppin
NYK 5.5 Kevin Knox
NYK 5.0 Taj Gibson
NYK 0.0
OKC 33.0 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
OKC 29.5 Luguentz Dort
OKC 28.0 Darius Bazley
OKC 24.5 Josh Giddey
OKC 24.0 Aleksej Pokusevski
OKC 22.0 Isaiah Roby
OKC 21.0 Derrick Favors
OKC 19.5 Théo Maledon
OKC 17.5 Kenrich Williams
OKC 7.0 Ty Jerome
OKC 6.0 Tre Mann
OKC 3.0 Mike Muscala
OKC 3.0 Gabriel Deck
OKC 1.0 Paul Watson
OKC 1.0 Aaron Wiggins
OKC 0.0
Orl 27.0 Jalen Suggs
Orl 25.5 Chuma Okeke
Orl 25.0 Wendell Carter Jr.
Orl 21.5 Cole Anthony
Orl 21.0 Terrence Ross
Orl 19.5 R.J. Hampton
Orl 19.5 Franz Wagner
Orl 19.0 Mo Bamba
Orl 18.0 Gary Harris
Orl 14.0 Jonathan Isaac
Orl 13.0 Markelle Fultz
Orl 9.5 Moritz Wagner
Orl 3.0 Ignas Brazdeikis
Orl 3.0 Robin Lopez
Orl 0.5 E'Twaun Moore
Orl 0.5 Jeff Dowtin
Orl 0.5 Hassani Gravett
Orl 0.0
Phl 32.5 Joel Embiid
Phl 31.5 Tobias Harris
Phl 26.5 Danny Green
Phl 26.0 Seth Curry
Phl 24.5 Ben Simmons
Phl 21.5 Matisse Thybulle
Phl 18.0 Tyrese Maxey
Phl 15.5 Andre Drummond
Phl 15.5 Shake Milton
Phl 15.0 Furkan Korkmaz
Phl 13.5 Georges Niang
Phl 0.0
Phx 34.5 Devin Booker
Phx 32.5 Mikal Bridges
Phx 32.5 Deandre Ayton
Phx 30.0 Chris Paul
Phx 27.5 Jae Crowder
Phx 21.5 Cameron Johnson
Phx 18.5 Cameron Payne
Phx 14.0 Landry Shamet
Phx 8.5 JaVale McGee
Phx 7.0 Frank Kaminsky
Phx 7.0 Abdel Nader
Phx 6.5 Elfrid Payton
Phx 0.0
Por 35.5 Damian Lillard
Por 33.5 CJ McCollum
Por 30.0 Robert Covington
Por 29.5 Norman Powell
Por 28.0 Jusuf Nurkić
Por 26.5 Larry Nance Jr.
Por 16.0 Tony Snell
Por 16.0 Anfernee Simons
Por 9.5 Cody Zeller
Por 7.5 Ben McLemore
Por 5.5 Nassir Little
Por 1.5 CJ Elleby
Por 1.0 Dennis Smith Jr.
Por 0.0
Sac 34.0 De'Aaron Fox
Sac 32.5 Harrison Barnes
Sac 31.0 Tyrese Haliburton
Sac 28.0 Richaun Holmes
Sac 25.5 Buddy Hield
Sac 23.5 Marvin Bagley III
Sac 16.0 Tristan Thompson
Sac 16.0 Davion Mitchell
Sac 15.0 Maurice Harkless
Sac 11.5 Terence Davis
Sac 6.5 Chimezie Metu
Sac 0.5 Robert Woodard
Sac 0.0
SAS 31.5 Dejounte Murray
SAS 30.5 Derrick White
SAS 29.0 Keldon Johnson
SAS 28.0 Jakob Poeltl
SAS 22.5 Doug McDermott
SAS 20.5 Thaddeus Young
SAS 20.0 Lonnie Walker
SAS 19.5 Devin Vassell
SAS 16.0 Bryn Forbes
SAS 13.5 Drew Eubanks
SAS 7.5 Al-Farouq Aminu
SAS 1.0 Jock Landale
SAS 0.5 Joshua Primo
SAS 0.0
Tor 34.5 Fred VanVleet
Tor 32.5 OG Anunoby
Tor 28.0 Khem Birch
Tor 23.0 Gary Trent Jr.
Tor 22.0 Goran Dragić
Tor 21.5 Malachi Flynn
Tor 20.0 Scottie Barnes
Tor 17.5 Precious Achiuwa
Tor 16.0 Pascal Siakam
Tor 10.0 Chris Boucher
Tor 6.5 Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Tor 3.5 Yuta Watanabe
Tor 3.5 Isaac Bonga
Tor 1.5 Dalano Banton
Tor 0.0
Uta 33.5 Donovan Mitchell
Uta 32.0 Rudy Gobert
Uta 30.5 Royce O'Neale
Uta 28.0 Bojan Bogdanović
Uta 28.0 Mike Conley
Uta 24.5 Joe Ingles
Uta 22.5 Jordan Clarkson
Uta 14.0 Hassan Whiteside
Uta 10.5 Eric Paschall
Uta 8.0 Rudy Gay
Uta 5.5 Udoka Azubuike
Uta 1.5 Miye Oni
Uta 1.5 Jared Butler
Uta 0.0
Was 35.5 Bradley Beal
Was 28.0 Rui Hachimura
Was 27.5 Spencer Dinwiddie
Was 24.5 Kyle Kuzma
Was 22.0 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Was 20.5 Daniel Gafford
Was 19.5 Deni Avdija
Was 18.0 Dāvis Bertāns
Was 13.5 Aaron Holiday
Was 11.0 Montrezl Harrell
Was 11.0 Thomas Bryant
Was 7.0 Raul Neto
Was 1.0 Corey Kispert
Was 1.0 Isaiah Todd
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... edictions/
Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
I'm putting 4 entries on the board: my own eWins, and other summary stats from b-r.com
Win Shares are entered as well as 'wins' derived from PER and BPM.
The minutes distribution in previous post leads to a league-wide PER of 15.75, WS/48 of .108, eW/484 = 1.06, and BPM = +0.27; so they've all been scaled down to their averages (15, .100, 1.00, 0.0) and average 41 wins per team.
This of course assumes last year's rates applied to this year's minutes. Rookie rates are scaled to their draft position.
Klay Thompson is a big unknown, and I gave him average rates.WinShares has the biggest spread, from 57 (Utah!) down to 22 (OKC). PER has the narrowest, high of 51 (Brk) low of 30 (OKC) -- not sure if this can or should be fixed.
It was a complicated process; so errors are possible, and inquiries are welcome!
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
Win Shares are entered as well as 'wins' derived from PER and BPM.
The minutes distribution in previous post leads to a league-wide PER of 15.75, WS/48 of .108, eW/484 = 1.06, and BPM = +0.27; so they've all been scaled down to their averages (15, .100, 1.00, 0.0) and average 41 wins per team.
This of course assumes last year's rates applied to this year's minutes. Rookie rates are scaled to their draft position.
Klay Thompson is a big unknown, and I gave him average rates.
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east eWin WShr perW bpmW
Atl 49.1 52.1 50.0 49.4
Bos 43.0 42.9 43.5 45.3
Brk 49.7 52.4 50.9 53.0
Cha 39.7 35.5 38.7 39.4
Chi 45.2 43.9 46.7 47.2
Cle 32.6 28.7 34.8 30.5
Det 34.4 26.6 31.7 29.0
Ind 40.6 41.0 41.7 41.0
Mia 41.3 46.4 40.1 41.9
Mil 46.7 53.7 48.7 50.9
NYK 45.6 48.3 43.9 46.4
Orl 30.0 22.5 30.9 23.8
Phl 48.8 52.8 46.2 50.0
Tor 36.2 33.8 36.2 33.5
Was 36.6 38.1 35.0 35.1
west eWin WShr perW bpmW
Dal 43.9 48.8 42.2 45.8
Den 42.0 48.9 43.5 47.1
GSW 41.0 42.4 39.2 43.7
Hou 33.8 29.3 35.5 32.0
LAC 39.0 43.0 36.2 39.1
LAL 51.7 42.7 47.6 50.5
Mem 37.5 38.1 38.0 36.9
Min 36.9 29.1 37.7 34.7
NOP 44.9 45.4 46.0 42.2
OKC 29.8 21.9 30.0 27.2
Phx 44.7 50.6 44.4 46.5
Por 41.6 45.1 45.3 47.8
Sac 36.4 34.0 41.6 34.0
SAS 36.3 35.1 37.1 36.2
Uta 51.0 56.9 46.4 50.1
It was a complicated process; so errors are possible, and inquiries are welcome!
https://www.basketball-reference.com/le ... anced.html
Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
WinShares seems to have the most outliers in this group. The others have the Lakers in charge out West, while WS has them vying for the last playoff spot. The Jazz, meanwhile, are loaded.
Lakers may be "deeper" after the first 7, but it's not really close. It will be interesting how this HOF team plays out.
(Are Ingles and Conley really that much better than Westbrook?)
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WS/48 LAKERS WS WS JAZZ WS/48
.179 LeBron 10.4 13.6 Gobert .248
.152 A Davis 8.8 9.6 Mitchell .167
.159 Dwight 4.6 9.4 Conley .197
.075 Westbrook 4.3 7.5 Ingles .180
.152 D Jordan 3.4 6.3 O'Neale .121
.084 Nunn 3.2 5.4 Bojan B .113
.088 Ellington 2.7 4.3 Clarkson .111
.065 Bazemore 2.3 1.9 Whiteside .081
.073 Carmelo 2.2 1.1 Azubuike .119
.078 Talen H-T 1.3 1.1 Paschall .062
.091 Ariza 1.2 0.8 R Gay .059
.081 Rondo 1.1 0.2 Oni .081
.054 Monk 0.4 0.0 J Butler -.004
(Are Ingles and Conley really that much better than Westbrook?)
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Interesting to see these metric rankings. Broader ranges on some teams.
One thing that is true of many or maybe all the public rankings I've seen is no explicit mention of separate evaluation of coaching or anything else (home / road patterns?, medical, tactical analytics) but the players. I haven't in past had systematic adjustments for these team elements but it has been part of the subjective adjustment of the base.
One thing that is true of many or maybe all the public rankings I've seen is no explicit mention of separate evaluation of coaching or anything else (home / road patterns?, medical, tactical analytics) but the players. I haven't in past had systematic adjustments for these team elements but it has been part of the subjective adjustment of the base.
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If need time to finalize projections after work tomorrow, get them by 10 pm US eastern time.
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ATL 48.7
BOS 46.8
BRK 54.0
CHA 36.1
CHI 42.2
CLE 27.1
DAL 48.1
DEN 46.9
DET 25.4
GSW 45.2
HOU 24.5
IND 42.5
LAC 43.8
LAL 50.3
MEM 42.6
MIA 47.1
MIL 55.2
MIN 36.3
NOP 40.2
NYK 42.6
OKC 21.1
ORL 21.7
PHI 51.0
PHX 51.8
POR 45.0
SAC 35.3
SAS 30.9
TOR 37.7
UTA 53.2
WAS 36.7
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Re: 2022 team win prediction contest
Which fantasy site did you use? Looks like NBADynastyADP?
I would recommend Basketball Monster, if you can. It’s a pay site, but I would trust Josh Lloyds minute projections to be through and about as accurate as you can get. Kostya switched DARKO win projections over to using Basketball Monster, after using 538 previously.
Hashtag Basketball is a good source for free projections. https://hashtagbasketball.com/fantasy- ... rojections
I would recommend Basketball Monster, if you can. It’s a pay site, but I would trust Josh Lloyds minute projections to be through and about as accurate as you can get. Kostya switched DARKO win projections over to using Basketball Monster, after using 538 previously.
Hashtag Basketball is a good source for free projections. https://hashtagbasketball.com/fantasy- ... rojections
Mike G wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:56 pm I took the 538 minutes projections and averaged them with a fantasy site and came up with this, which I will be using.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1543820123Code: Select all
tm mpg Atl 34.0 Trae Young Atl 29.0 Clint Capela Atl 29.0 John Collins Atl 29.0 Bogdan Bogdanović Atl 29.0 De'Andre Hunter Atl 19.0 Kevin Huerter Atl 18.5 Cam Reddish Atl 17.0 Danilo Gallinari Atl 12.0 Delon Wright Atl 11.0 Gorgui Dieng Atl 7.5 Lou Williams Atl 5.0 Solomon Hill Atl 0.0 Bos 36.0 Jayson Tatum Bos 34.5 Jaylen Brown Bos 30.5 Marcus Smart Bos 28.0 Dennis Schröder Bos 23.5 Al Horford Bos 21.5 Robert Williams Bos 21.5 Josh Richardson Bos 16.0 Aaron Nesmith Bos 14.0 Payton Pritchard Bos 7.0 Grant Williams Bos 5.5 Romeo Langford Bos 1.0 Juan Hernangómez Bos 1.0 Enes Kanter Bos 0.0 Brk 35.0 James Harden Brk 32.0 Kevin Durant Brk 29.0 Joe Harris Brk 20.5 Patty Mills Brk 20.0 Blake Griffin Brk 20.0 LaMarcus Aldridge Brk 19.5 Bruce Brown Brk 16.5 Kyrie Irving Brk 13.5 Nicolas Claxton Brk 13.5 Paul Millsap Brk 7.0 DeAndre' Bembry Brk 6.5 James Johnson Brk 6.5 Jevon Carter Brk 0.5 Cameron Thomas Brk 0.0 Cha 32.5 LaMelo Ball Cha 32.0 Terry Rozier Cha 30.5 Gordon Hayward Cha 29.0 Miles Bridges Cha 26.5 P.J. Washington Cha 22.5 Mason Plumlee Cha 21.5 Kelly Oubre Jr. Cha 13.0 James Bouknight Cha 8.0 Ish Smith Cha 6.0 Cody Martin Cha 5.5 Jalen McDaniels Cha 5.5 Wesley Iwundu Cha 5.0 Kai Jones Cha 1.5 Nick Richards Cha 1.0 Vernon Carey Jr. Cha 0.0 Chi 34.5 Zach LaVine Chi 31.5 Lonzo Ball Chi 31.0 Nikola Vučević Chi 31.0 DeMar DeRozan Chi 30.0 Patrick Williams Chi 18.5 Alex Caruso Chi 17.0 Tony Bradley Chi 14.5 Derrick Jones Jr. Chi 11.0 Coby White Chi 7.5 Alize Johnson Chi 5.5 Troy Brown Jr. Chi 5.5 Marko Simonovic Chi 0.0 Cle 33.0 Collin Sexton Cle 32.0 Isaac Okoro Cle 32.0 Darius Garland Cle 26.0 Jarrett Allen Cle 26.0 Evan Mobley Cle 19.5 Kevin Love Cle 19.0 Lauri Markkanen Cle 18.5 Ricky Rubio Cle 16.5 Cedi Osman Cle 7.0 Lamar Stevens Cle 6.0 Denzel Valentine Cle 4.5 Dean Wade Cle 0.0 Dal 36.0 Luka Dončić Dal 29.5 Dorian Finney-Smith Dal 29.5 Kristaps Porziņģis Dal 28.5 Tim Hardaway Jr. Dal 24.0 Maxi Kleber Dal 21.5 Reggie Bullock Dal 19.5 Jalen Brunson Dal 16.0 Dwight Powell Dal 12.5 Willie Cauley-Stein Dal 8.0 Sterling Brown Dal 5.0 Trey Burke Dal 5.0 Josh Green Dal 5.0 Frank Ntilikina Dal 0.0 Den 35.0 Nikola Jokić Den 32.0 Michael Porter Jr. Den 29.0 Aaron Gordon Den 28.5 Will Barton Den 26.5 Monte Morris Den 20.0 Facundo Campazzo Den 17.0 Austin Rivers Den 15.5 Jeff Green Den 15.5 PJ Dozier Den 14.5 JaMychal Green Den 6.5 Zeke Nnaji Den 0.0 Det 31.5 Jerami Grant Det 30.5 Cade Cunningham Det 29.0 Saddiq Bey Det 27.5 Isaiah Stewart Det 26.0 Killian Hayes Det 21.0 Kelly Olynyk Det 19.0 Hamidou Diallo Det 18.5 Cory Joseph Det 18.0 Josh Jackson Det 12.5 Trey Lyles Det 6.0 Isaiah Livers Det 0.5 Luke Garza Det 0.0 GSW 34.0 Stephen Curry GSW 33.0 Andrew Wiggins GSW 30.0 Draymond Green GSW 24.0 Jordan Poole GSW 22.0 Kevon Looney GSW 21.0 Otto Porter GSW 16.0 Andre Iguodala GSW 14.0 Klay Thompson GSW 8.0 James Wiseman GSW 7.5 Nemanja Bjelica GSW 7.5 Moses Moody GSW 7.0 Juan Toscano-Anderson GSW 7.0 Damion Lee GSW 7.0 Jonathan Kuminga GSW 2.0 Chris Chiozza GSW 0.0 Hou 31.5 Christian Wood Hou 31.5 Jalen Green Hou 31.0 Kevin Porter Jr. Hou 25.0 Daniel Theis Hou 23.5 Jae'Sean Tate Hou 22.5 Eric Gordon Hou 18.5 Danuel House Hou 18.0 Kenyon Martin Jr. Hou 16.5 Alperen Sengun Hou 10.0 D.J. Augustin Hou 6.0 David Nwaba Hou 3.5 ? Hou 1.0 Anthony Lamb Hou 0.5 Dante Exum Hou 0.5 Armoni Brooks Hou 0.5 Daishen Nix Hou 0.0 Ind 34.0 Domantas Sabonis Ind 31.0 Myles Turner Ind 30.5 Malcolm Brogdon Ind 24.0 T.J. McConnell Ind 18.5 Justin Holiday Ind 16.0 Caris LeVert Ind 15.5 Goga Bitadze Ind 15.5 Chris Duarte Ind 15.0 T.J. Warren Ind 11.5 Jeremy Lamb Ind 9.5 Oshae Brissett Ind 8.5 Torrey Craig Ind 8.0 Brad Wanamaker Ind 2.5 Isaiah Jackson Ind 0.0 LAC 34.5 Paul George LAC 27.0 Nicolas Batum LAC 26.5 Marcus Morris LAC 26.0 Reggie Jackson LAC 25.0 Terance Mann LAC 25.0 Eric Bledsoe LAC 23.5 Ivica Zubac LAC 18.5 Luke Kennard LAC 16.5 Justise Winslow LAC 11.0 Serge Ibaka LAC 3.0 Keon Johnson LAC 2.5 Isaiah Hartenstein LAC 0.5 Amir Coffey LAC 0.5 Jay Scrubb LAC 0.0 LAL 34.0 LeBron James LAL 34.0 Anthony Davis LAL 33.5 Russell Westbrook LAL 22.0 Kendrick Nunn LAL 21.0 Kent Bazemore LAL 18.0 Wayne Ellington LAL 17.5 Carmelo Anthony LAL 17.0 Dwight Howard LAL 13.0 DeAndre Jordan LAL 10.0 Talen Horton-Tucker LAL 8.0 Rajon Rondo LAL 8.0 Trevor Ariza LAL 4.0 Malik Monk LAL 0.0 Mem 33.0 Ja Morant Mem 29.0 Jaren Jackson Jr. Mem 27.0 Kyle Anderson Mem 26.0 Steven Adams Mem 24.5 Desmond Bane Mem 21.0 De'Anthony Melton Mem 19.0 Brandon Clarke Mem 18.5 Xavier Tillman Sr. Mem 18.0 Tyus Jones Mem 15.0 Dillon Brooks Mem 4.5 Kris Dunn Mem 4.5 Jarrett Culver Mem 0.0 Mia 33.0 Bam Adebayo Mia 33.0 Jimmy Butler Mia 31.5 Kyle Lowry Mia 30.0 Duncan Robinson Mia 26.5 Tyler Herro Mia 24.0 P.J. Tucker Mia 17.0 Markieff Morris Mia 14.0 Dewayne Dedmon Mia 11.0 Max Strus Mia 8.5 Gabe Vincent Mia 8.0 KZ Okpala Mia 3.0 Caleb Martin Mia 0.5 Omer Yurtseven Mia 0.0 Mil 34.0 Giannis Antetokounmpo Mil 32.5 Khris Middleton Mil 32.0 Jrue Holiday Mil 26.5 Brook Lopez Mil 25.0 Donte DiVincenzo Mil 21.5 Bobby Portis Mil 21.0 Pat Connaughton Mil 16.5 George Hill Mil 15.5 Grayson Allen Mil 7.5 Semi Ojeleye Mil 5.0 Jordan Nwora Mil 1.0 Thanasis Antetokounmpo Mil 0.5 Tremont Waters Mil 0.5 Justin Robinson Mil 0.5 Rodney Hood Mil 0.5 Sandro Mamukelashvili Mil 0.0 Min 34.0 Karl-Anthony Towns Min 32.5 Anthony Edwards Min 30.5 D'Angelo Russell Min 29.5 Malik Beasley Min 27.5 Jaden McDaniels Min 19.0 Patrick Beverley Min 15.5 Taurean Prince Min 15.0 Josh Okogie Min 15.0 Jarred Vanderbilt Min 15.5 Naz Reid Min 6.0 Jaylen Nowell Min 0.0 NOP 37.5 Brandon Ingram NOP 30.0 Devonte' Graham NOP 28.5 Jonas Valančiūnas NOP 27.0 Nickeil Alexander-Walker NOP 21.0 Jaxson Hayes NOP 20.5 Josh Hart NOP 17.0 Tomáš Satoranský NOP 16.5 Zion Williamson NOP 15.5 Kira Lewis Jr. NOP 9.0 Trey Murphy NOP 8.0 Willy Hernangómez NOP 7.5 Naji Marshall NOP 2.0 Garrett Temple NOP 0.0 NYK 35.0 Julius Randle NYK 31.0 RJ Barrett NYK 29.5 Kemba Walker NYK 29.0 Evan Fournier NYK 26.5 Mitchell Robinson NYK 21.0 Derrick Rose NYK 17.5 Nerlens Noel NYK 15.0 Alec Burks NYK 15.0 Immanuel Quickley NYK 10.0 Obi Toppin NYK 5.5 Kevin Knox NYK 5.0 Taj Gibson NYK 0.0 OKC 33.0 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander OKC 29.5 Luguentz Dort OKC 28.0 Darius Bazley OKC 24.5 Josh Giddey OKC 24.0 Aleksej Pokusevski OKC 22.0 Isaiah Roby OKC 21.0 Derrick Favors OKC 19.5 Théo Maledon OKC 17.5 Kenrich Williams OKC 7.0 Ty Jerome OKC 6.0 Tre Mann OKC 3.0 Mike Muscala OKC 3.0 Gabriel Deck OKC 1.0 Paul Watson OKC 1.0 Aaron Wiggins OKC 0.0 Orl 27.0 Jalen Suggs Orl 25.5 Chuma Okeke Orl 25.0 Wendell Carter Jr. Orl 21.5 Cole Anthony Orl 21.0 Terrence Ross Orl 19.5 R.J. Hampton Orl 19.5 Franz Wagner Orl 19.0 Mo Bamba Orl 18.0 Gary Harris Orl 14.0 Jonathan Isaac Orl 13.0 Markelle Fultz Orl 9.5 Moritz Wagner Orl 3.0 Ignas Brazdeikis Orl 3.0 Robin Lopez Orl 0.5 E'Twaun Moore Orl 0.5 Jeff Dowtin Orl 0.5 Hassani Gravett Orl 0.0 Phl 32.5 Joel Embiid Phl 31.5 Tobias Harris Phl 26.5 Danny Green Phl 26.0 Seth Curry Phl 24.5 Ben Simmons Phl 21.5 Matisse Thybulle Phl 18.0 Tyrese Maxey Phl 15.5 Andre Drummond Phl 15.5 Shake Milton Phl 15.0 Furkan Korkmaz Phl 13.5 Georges Niang Phl 0.0 Phx 34.5 Devin Booker Phx 32.5 Mikal Bridges Phx 32.5 Deandre Ayton Phx 30.0 Chris Paul Phx 27.5 Jae Crowder Phx 21.5 Cameron Johnson Phx 18.5 Cameron Payne Phx 14.0 Landry Shamet Phx 8.5 JaVale McGee Phx 7.0 Frank Kaminsky Phx 7.0 Abdel Nader Phx 6.5 Elfrid Payton Phx 0.0 Por 35.5 Damian Lillard Por 33.5 CJ McCollum Por 30.0 Robert Covington Por 29.5 Norman Powell Por 28.0 Jusuf Nurkić Por 26.5 Larry Nance Jr. Por 16.0 Tony Snell Por 16.0 Anfernee Simons Por 9.5 Cody Zeller Por 7.5 Ben McLemore Por 5.5 Nassir Little Por 1.5 CJ Elleby Por 1.0 Dennis Smith Jr. Por 0.0 Sac 34.0 De'Aaron Fox Sac 32.5 Harrison Barnes Sac 31.0 Tyrese Haliburton Sac 28.0 Richaun Holmes Sac 25.5 Buddy Hield Sac 23.5 Marvin Bagley III Sac 16.0 Tristan Thompson Sac 16.0 Davion Mitchell Sac 15.0 Maurice Harkless Sac 11.5 Terence Davis Sac 6.5 Chimezie Metu Sac 0.5 Robert Woodard Sac 0.0 SAS 31.5 Dejounte Murray SAS 30.5 Derrick White SAS 29.0 Keldon Johnson SAS 28.0 Jakob Poeltl SAS 22.5 Doug McDermott SAS 20.5 Thaddeus Young SAS 20.0 Lonnie Walker SAS 19.5 Devin Vassell SAS 16.0 Bryn Forbes SAS 13.5 Drew Eubanks SAS 7.5 Al-Farouq Aminu SAS 1.0 Jock Landale SAS 0.5 Joshua Primo SAS 0.0 Tor 34.5 Fred VanVleet Tor 32.5 OG Anunoby Tor 28.0 Khem Birch Tor 23.0 Gary Trent Jr. Tor 22.0 Goran Dragić Tor 21.5 Malachi Flynn Tor 20.0 Scottie Barnes Tor 17.5 Precious Achiuwa Tor 16.0 Pascal Siakam Tor 10.0 Chris Boucher Tor 6.5 Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk Tor 3.5 Yuta Watanabe Tor 3.5 Isaac Bonga Tor 1.5 Dalano Banton Tor 0.0 Uta 33.5 Donovan Mitchell Uta 32.0 Rudy Gobert Uta 30.5 Royce O'Neale Uta 28.0 Bojan Bogdanović Uta 28.0 Mike Conley Uta 24.5 Joe Ingles Uta 22.5 Jordan Clarkson Uta 14.0 Hassan Whiteside Uta 10.5 Eric Paschall Uta 8.0 Rudy Gay Uta 5.5 Udoka Azubuike Uta 1.5 Miye Oni Uta 1.5 Jared Butler Uta 0.0 Was 35.5 Bradley Beal Was 28.0 Rui Hachimura Was 27.5 Spencer Dinwiddie Was 24.5 Kyle Kuzma Was 22.0 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Was 20.5 Daniel Gafford Was 19.5 Deni Avdija Was 18.0 Dāvis Bertāns Was 13.5 Aaron Holiday Was 11.0 Montrezl Harrell Was 11.0 Thomas Bryant Was 7.0 Raul Neto Was 1.0 Corey Kispert Was 1.0 Isaiah Todd
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