2025-26 team win projection contest
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
Fwiw, the composite projection from Nov. 14 I assembled from other entries and 3 projections from mid-Nov. (page 5 of thread) has an average variance from current BRef projection of 4.91 wins.
My personal revised projection from then (page 6) has a variance of only 4.39.
Both closer than any pre-season entry.
A couple weeks of new season data and reflecting on it was quite helpful. Not a surprise, but wanted to see how much it helped.
Might check things again at the end.
My personal revised projection from then (page 6) has a variance of only 4.39.
Both closer than any pre-season entry.
A couple weeks of new season data and reflecting on it was quite helpful. Not a surprise, but wanted to see how much it helped.
Might check things again at the end.
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
DARKO may be onto some secret sauce; and while they weren't in the contest last year, wasn't it determined they would have won it had they entered?
Winning 2 years in a row would be noteworthy, as for most entries it seems very random -- at least over these last 2 seasons.
Here are everyone's correlations between their predictions and DARKO's:The correlations all look at least "pretty high", so I added a dis-correlation column, (1-corr.) to accentuate the dissing between them.
I don't know if DARKO is influenced by any of these higher correlators, or vise versa. I kinda suspect Walrus is in cahoots.
Winning 2 years in a row would be noteworthy, as for most entries it seems very random -- at least over these last 2 seasons.
Here are everyone's correlations between their predictions and DARKO's:
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corr. darko disco
.948 bmgm .052
.942 Walr .058
.939 Ebet .061
.938 Crow .062
.937 knar .063
.933 dtka .067
.929 bpmW .071
.929 Mgoo .071
.921 EExp .079
.901 medi .099
.891 eWin .109
.864 WShr .136
.862 perW .138
.850 DQin .150
.849 KPel .151
I don't know if DARKO is influenced by any of these higher correlators, or vise versa. I kinda suspect Walrus is in cahoots.
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
Top 5 correlation with Darko for me is a positive.
I know I have some outliers. They are often my downfall. Can be rewarded but more often hurt. Half the gap for me from lead is due to my massive bet against the Heat. They were so terrible in playoffs and pre-season. However neither of those is the regular season. They are 6W-10L recently but the big early success buffers that so far. 1W-2L in last 3.
Probably should have been more restrained. Hard beat the best metrics at regression though. But also can beat myself. Got to be different to win, but it has to be right amount, right places to win against a strong field.
I know I have some outliers. They are often my downfall. Can be rewarded but more often hurt. Half the gap for me from lead is due to my massive bet against the Heat. They were so terrible in playoffs and pre-season. However neither of those is the regular season. They are 6W-10L recently but the big early success buffers that so far. 1W-2L in last 3.
Probably should have been more restrained. Hard beat the best metrics at regression though. But also can beat myself. Got to be different to win, but it has to be right amount, right places to win against a strong field.
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
The field averages .13 bigger error overnight and is overall worst since Nov. 21.
KPel with personal worst for the 4th day in a row, and the top-bottom spread is largest since mid-Nov.
How are we doing with our high and low guesses?
Ties are included, defined as within half a win predicted.
OKC currently projects midway between the high and low guesses, so neither a W nor a L for either.
I think all other teams sit clearly closer to high or low end right now.
UPDATE Jan. 10 -- DARKO had their biggest lead of the season yesterday.
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. avg err rmse r^2 . avg err rmse r^2
DRKO 6.59 8.20 .48 Mgoo 7.34 8.99 .40
knar 6.84 8.34 .46 dtka 7.42 8.97 .40
bmgm 6.91 8.47 .50 eWin 7.52 9.16 .37
bpmW 6.93 8.54 .45 25pr 7.54 9.66 .32
Walr 6.94 8.54 .45 perW 7.55 9.84 .30
Ebet 7.08 8.52 .50 Crow 7.86 9.65 .37
EExp 7.20 8.66 .43 medi 8.19 9.76 .38
WShr 7.26 9.16 .38 KPel 8.71 10.39 .29
avgA 7.29 8.80 .42 DQin 9.06 11.05 .28
How are we doing with our high and low guesses?
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W-L who Highest Lowest
3-0 Walr Uta Dal LAC
3-1 DRKO Was Uta LAL Mem
3-1 Ebet NYK LAL Chi Uta
2-1 bmgm Det NYK Uta
3-2 WShr Brk Mil Phl NOP SAS
3-2 eWin Mia Orl Tor Bos Cle
3-2 medi Cle Phl Min Por Phx
2-2 knar Cha NOP Ind Den
4-4-1 perW Dal Den SAS
. Cle GSW Hou Min OKC Por
0-0 bpmW
0-0 Mgoo
2-3 Crow Chi Det Atl Mia Uta
0-1 dtka LAC
4-6-1 DQin Bos Ind Hou Mem OKC Phx
. Cha Det NYK Orl Tor
1-4 KPel Mil Tor GSW Brk Was
OKC currently projects midway between the high and low guesses, so neither a W nor a L for either.
I think all other teams sit clearly closer to high or low end right now.
UPDATE Jan. 10 -- DARKO had their biggest lead of the season yesterday.
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. avg err rmse r^2 . avg err rmse r^2
DRKO 6.53 8.25 .47 Mgoo 7.17 9.02 .40
bpmW 6.77 8.53 .45 dtka 7.36 8.89 .40
knar 6.83 8.31 .46 25pr 7.39 9.58 .33
Walr 6.85 8.54 .44 eWin 7.42 9.19 .37
bmgm 6.94 8.44 .51 perW 7.59 9.91 .29
WShr 7.04 9.11 .38 Crow 7.78 9.63 .37
avgA 7.09 8.77 .42 medi 7.92 9.64 .39
EExp 7.09 8.61 .43 KPel 8.60 10.28 .30
Ebet 7.12 8.53 .50 DQin 8.90 10.93 .29
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
Heat lose 3rd in last 4 games to Pacers by 24 pts. Next 5 opponents are playoff ranked.
Adebayo loses his 25 minutes by 23, just -1 when he was off.
Worst 3pt shooting of their season at 13%.
And now another loss.
Scoring fell from 125 in October to 110 in January so far. Opponent scoring went from 114 to 119. 20 pt change in margin. Worth noticing to me.
Adebayo loses his 25 minutes by 23, just -1 when he was off.
Worst 3pt shooting of their season at 13%.
And now another loss.
Scoring fell from 125 in October to 110 in January so far. Opponent scoring went from 114 to 119. 20 pt change in margin. Worth noticing to me.
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
In as continued discussion of my to date biggest miss in the projection contest and whether that miss sees significant reduction.
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
Smallest errors of the season for BPM, WS, knarsu, dtkavana, betmgm, and 25pyth-regr.
Smallest top-bottom spread since before xmas; avgA with biggest lead of the month over EExp.
UPDATE Jan. 17 -- after 4 weeks, a new leader.
Best numbers yet for BPM, knarsu, WS, dtka, Crow, medi, avgA, and 25pr
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. avg err rmse r^2 avg err rmse r^2
DRKO 6.06 7.65 .52 EExp 6.75 8.00 .48
bpmW 6.19 7.78 .51 dtka 6.91 8.18 .46
Walr 6.30 7.84 .50 eWin 6.96 8.54 .42
knar 6.35 7.66 .52 perW 7.09 9.25 .34
bmgm 6.45 7.77 .56 25pr 7.13 8.97 .37
avgA 6.51 8.05 .48 Crow 7.23 8.93 .42
WShr 6.58 8.44 .44 medi 7.34 9.00 .44
Mgoo 6.66 8.27 .46 KPel 7.97 9.51 .36
Ebet 6.70 7.85 .55 DQin 8.32 10.35 .33UPDATE Jan. 17 -- after 4 weeks, a new leader.
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. avg err rmse r^2 .avg err rmse r^2
bpmW 6.08 7.62 .53 EExp 6.81 7.99 .49
DRKO 6.09 7.49 .54 dtka 6.88 8.11 .48
Walr 6.26 7.75 .51 eWin 6.93 8.42 .44
knar 6.26 7.52 .54 25pr 6.98 8.87 .39
avgA 6.45 7.91 .50 Crow 7.12 8.73 .44
bmgm 6.47 7.70 .57 perW 7.17 9.15 .36
WShr 6.54 8.28 .46 medi 7.27 8.89 .46
Mgoo 6.58 8.13 .48 KPel 7.94 9.38 .38
Ebet 6.72 7.79 .56 DQin 8.18 10.16 .35
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
Your modifications on Mgoo elevate from tier 3 by eWin to tier 2.
Lots of tier 2 and tier 3 with small differences within tier and modest between.
About 50% of season to go. Movements will get slower but they are still coming
Lots of tier 2 and tier 3 with small differences within tier and modest between.
About 50% of season to go. Movements will get slower but they are still coming
Re: 2025-26 team win projection contest
Another season best for Crow and the 4th consecutive days of best for knar and 25pr .
Our avgA is now leading EExp by .44, and the top-bottom is smallest since Dec. 11.
Noticing the West>East projections have gotten to what may be a season high avg of 42.2-39.8 -- still not as extreme as our consensus 43-39 imbalance, but likely producing the recent drop in most of our errors.
A full week of West outplaying the East:
That's a stretch of W 18 - 7 E
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. avg err rmse r^2 .avg err rmse r^2
bpmW 6.16 7.78 .52 25pr 6.90 8.96 .38
DRKO 6.21 7.65 .53 EExp 6.96 8.19 .47
knar 6.26 7.67 .53 dtka 6.98 8.29 .46
Walr 6.47 7.98 .49 eWin 7.00 8.56 .43
avgA 6.51 8.06 .49 Crow 7.07 8.86 .43
bmgm 6.58 7.89 .55 medi 7.29 9.04 .44
WShr 6.60 8.41 .45 perW 7.34 9.30 .35
Mgoo 6.65 8.28 .47 KPel 8.01 9.48 .37
Ebet 6.83 8.00 .54 DQin 8.23 10.26 .34
Noticing the West>East projections have gotten to what may be a season high avg of 42.2-39.8 -- still not as extreme as our consensus 43-39 imbalance, but likely producing the recent drop in most of our errors.
A full week of West outplaying the East:
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W > E E > W
1-17
Phx-NYK Mia-OKC
GSW-Cha
Den-Was
1-16
Sac-Was Ind-NOP
LAC-Tor
1-15
GSW-NYK Det-Phx
Mem-Orl Cha-LAL
Por-Atl Orl-Mem
SAS-Mil
1-14
LAC-Was Chi-Uta
NOP-Brk
Sac-NYK
1-13
Hou-Chi Mia-Phx
LAL-Atl
Min-Mil
1-12
Uta-Cle
Dal-Brk
LAC-Cha
1-11
Den-Mil Atl-GSW
Mem-Brk Orl-NOP
OKC-Mia NYK-Por
Phx-Was
1-10
SAS-Bos Chi-Dal
LAC-Det Cle-Min
. Cha-Utahttps://www.basketball-reference.com/bo ... &year=2026