2013 Power Rankings

[J.E.]

Here are mine.

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MIA	8,8222624038
SAS	6,3637023886
OKC	5,4430105683
LAC	5,073822835
MEM	4,9708311632
NYK	4,6659993233
DEN	4,381254855
LAL	3,3912808128
BOS	3,3203022876
CHI	3,1150541001
ATL	2,6821145125
PHI	2,1307693095
MIL	1,9052122095
IND	1,9050477431
HOU	1,6408469678
GSW	0,5760058334
TOR	-0,4508984375
NOH	-0,5673049878
UTA	-1,7698704122
PHO	-2,3476413162
SAC	-3,04312707
CLE	-3,5948162676
POR	-4,1249826942
DAL	-4,2563234565
WAS	-4,9893793403
ORL	-5,5482360418
DET	-5,6218945313
MIN	-6,5152904349
CHA	-8,4303495763

Current injuries are accounted for. Using http://www.donbest.com/nba/injuries/ . So Atlanta's listed strength is without Smith, LAL without Nash etc.
It's not 100% up-to-date. RAPM is a couple of days old (and has almost no '13 data of course, but it's informed with last year's). Today's games (Nov.4) aren't in there, either, but yesterday's are (I use those to guess player minutes)

Very different to Sagarin's ( http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/s ... ba1112.htm ). Obviously the 2 rankings will correlate more as the season progresses

[bbstats]

So...RAPM is updated? Will this be reflected on the main player pages?

[J.E.]

It's updated now, with data from today. You can find the newest version here http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ranking_rec
Informed with almost all of '12, including playoffs (the updated '12 version is not on the site yet, though)

Millsap is #4, Harden #6, Amir Johnson #9. Four Spurs are in the top 15. The Bucks have three players in the top 30, Udrih, Udoh and Dunleavy. All three of them are coming from the bench. Their bench's raw +/- must be crazy in comparison to their starting 5's. Do the Bucks know this and are choosing to ignore it?

[Mike G]

The Bucks have played 2 games. Nothing unusual about the starter/bench +/- in the first game.
Against Cleveland, Dunleavy scored 29 points on 14 shots. He was +24, Udrih was +20 in 17 minutes.
Maybe Beno was in the game while Dunleavy was especially hot?

[J.E.]

The Bucks have played 2 games. Nothing unusual about the starter/bench +/- in the first game.
Against Cleveland, Dunleavy scored 29 points on 14 shots. He was +24, Udrih was +20 in 17 minutes.
Maybe Beno was in the game while Dunleavy was especially hot?

As of now, most of those player ratings are from last season when those three had a Net +/- of 16/12/7 ( http://basketballvalue.com/teamplayers. ... =2011-2012 ). This year, from eyeballing it, when all three of them were on the court together the Bucks outscored their opponents by a total of 23 points. It's almost always against opponent bench players, but still very good. The opponents were Cleveland (2-2 right now) and Boston (1-2). I don't see why this shouldn't continue, as it seemed to happen all of last season, too

[Mike G]

Thanks for that clarification.
Last year, Ilyasova was a mainstay, so it's hard to bench him after 2 weak games; he's at 26 mpg.
Larry Sanders, another PF-C, has had numbers through the roof. Also in 26 mpg.
Udoh has gotten 23 mpg in this frontcourt.

Udrih seems to back up both Ellis and Jennings, two guys who are used to big minutes. He's at 19 mpg.
Dunleavy is #3 in minutes, after those starting guards. He went 34 in that big game. Now with Larry Bird-like averages: 18-9-4-2 Stl. .

[Crow]

Average pace currently up by about 2 possessions per game. Offensive efficiency down a point. It appears to be almost entirely because of a 0.5% uptick in own turnovers. All the other factors are nearly identical to last season already.

[Bobbofitos]

Average pace currently up by about 2 possessions per game. Offensive efficiency down a point. It appears to be almost entirely because of a 0.5% uptick in own turnovers. All the other factors are nearly identical to last season already.

ORtg always starts low and slowly climbs as the year goes on.

[bbstats]

Jerry

This is great! Is the site under construction at the moment? I like the formatting, but I miss the rankings.

EDIT: Also, do you work for the Nets or something?

[DSMok1]

J.E., do you need some help with formatting/setting up your site? I can do web design to some extent (I built my personal sites).

[J.E.]

The Nets are now also online. The script had a problem with BRO/BRK. Lots of very good/very bad ratings on that team, sometimes even for the same player! (DWill with +3.45 Off, -2.65 Def)
Their overall team strength is at ~0 according to RAPM, with Wallace

[bbstats]

The only thing that is failing the eye-test for me is LeBron being low on defense.

I suppose it's probably because of higher levels of regression thanks to low samples? (Even though it's multi-year)

[J.E.]

Lakers fire Mike Brown. I think their main problem is age and their bench, but Mike Brown probably wasn't too helpful either. I think SVG would be the best guy available, other candidates include D'Antoni, Jackson and Sloan. I'm neutral on Sloan, positive on Jackson (although not as much as SVG) and I don't think D'Antoni is that good of a coach, but he's probably one of the more creative offensive coaches and might let Nash do his thing more. Maybe then I could watch a full Lakers game again

[DSMok1]

Lakers fire Mike Brown. I think their main problem is age and their bench, but Mike Brown probably wasn't too helpful either. I think SVG would be the best guy available, other candidates include D'Antoni, Jackson and Sloan. I'm neutral on Sloan, positive on Jackson (although not as much as SVG) and I don't think D'Antoni is that good of a coach, but he's probably one of the more creative offensive coaches and might let Nash do his thing more. Maybe then I could watch a full Lakers game again

The Lakers have been quite good on offense (probably the best-fitting starting lineup in a while), but bad on D. Who could help that the most?

[J.E.]

Lakers fire Mike Brown. I think their main problem is age and their bench, but Mike Brown probably wasn't too helpful either. I think SVG would be the best guy available, other candidates include D'Antoni, Jackson and Sloan. I'm neutral on Sloan, positive on Jackson (although not as much as SVG) and I don't think D'Antoni is that good of a coach, but he's probably one of the more creative offensive coaches and might let Nash do his thing more. Maybe then I could watch a full Lakers game again

The Lakers have been quite good on offense (probably the best-fitting starting lineup in a while), but bad on D. Who could help that the most?

Even though they were good on offense, didn't they still underperform offensively given the personnel? Skiles would help the most for a team with bad D, but he's obviously already with a different team. SVG would be next, and then JVG I guess. Definitely not D'Antoni