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Josh Smith Waived

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Josh Smith was just waived.

I think he and Rondo are perhaps two of the most difficult players to quantify, and they've both been moved in the last few days.

Josh Smith has been, and perhaps still is excellent on the defensive end, which is difficult to quantify. Like Rondo, he has outlier offensive stats--Smith shoots horrible percentages, takes a ton of shots, but also passes very well for his position and rebounds well.

For what it's worth, BPM still has Smith as a net positive this season, on the strength of his D.

His career stats:

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║ 2004-05 ║  19 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ SF  ║  74 ║  2050 ║ 15.4 ║ 0.506 ║ 0.038 ║ 0.394 ║ 7.9  ║ 18.6 ║ 13   ║ 10.2 ║ 1.5  ║ 5.4  ║ 16   ║ 18.4 ║  ║ 0.6  ║ 1.8  ║ 2.4  ║ 0.055  ║  ║ -2.3 ║ 1.7  ║ -0.7 ║ 0.7  ║
║ 2005-06 ║  20 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ SF  ║  80 ║  2559 ║ 15.5 ║ 0.5   ║ 0.142 ║ 0.377 ║ 8    ║ 17.2 ║ 12.5 ║ 12.2 ║ 1.3  ║ 6.2  ║ 15.2 ║ 18.9 ║  ║ 1.5  ║ 2.1  ║ 3.6  ║ 0.067  ║  ║ -1.2 ║ 1.9  ║ 0.7  ║ 1.8  ║
║ 2006-07 ║  21 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ SF  ║  72 ║  2647 ║ 18.3 ║ 0.506 ║ 0.153 ║ 0.39  ║ 7.4  ║ 21   ║ 14.1 ║ 16.3 ║ 2    ║ 6.1  ║ 16.3 ║ 24.1 ║  ║ 0.4  ║ 4    ║ 4.4  ║ 0.079  ║  ║ -0.5 ║ 3.2  ║ 2.7  ║ 3.1  ║
║ 2007-08 ║  22 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ PF  ║  81 ║  2873 ║ 19   ║ 0.52  ║ 0.087 ║ 0.414 ║ 6.6  ║ 20.4 ║ 13.5 ║ 16.6 ║ 2.3  ║ 5.9  ║ 15.5 ║ 25   ║  ║ 1.2  ║ 4.6  ║ 5.8  ║ 0.097  ║  ║ -0.6 ║ 3.3  ║ 2.8  ║ 3.4  ║
║ 2008-09 ║  23 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ PF  ║  69 ║  2421 ║ 17.2 ║ 0.533 ║ 0.102 ║ 0.423 ║ 6.5  ║ 17.6 ║ 12.1 ║ 12.1 ║ 2.1  ║ 3.5  ║ 13.8 ║ 22.6 ║  ║ 1.3  ║ 3.6  ║ 4.9  ║ 0.097  ║  ║ -0.7 ║ 2.3  ║ 1.6  ║ 2.2  ║
║ 2009-10 ║  24 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ PF  ║  81 ║  2871 ║ 21   ║ 0.536 ║ 0.007 ║ 0.422 ║ 9    ║ 19.8 ║ 14.3 ║ 19   ║ 2.4  ║ 4.5  ║ 14.3 ║ 22.2 ║  ║ 4.2  ║ 5.1  ║ 9.3  ║ 0.155  ║  ║ 1.3  ║ 3.9  ║ 5.2  ║ 5.2  ║
║ 2010-11 ║  25 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ PF  ║  77 ║  2645 ║ 19.2 ║ 0.54  ║ 0.148 ║ 0.304 ║ 6.2  ║ 23.7 ║ 15   ║ 17.1 ║ 2    ║ 3.5  ║ 14.3 ║ 24.7 ║  ║ 1.9  ║ 4.5  ║ 6.4  ║ 0.116  ║  ║ 0.2  ║ 2.6  ║ 2.9  ║ 3.3  ║
║ 2011-12 ║  26 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ PF  ║  66 ║  2329 ║ 21.1 ║ 0.499 ║ 0.099 ║ 0.292 ║ 6.9  ║ 24.8 ║ 15.9 ║ 20.6 ║ 2.1  ║ 3.8  ║ 11.7 ║ 28.4 ║  ║ 1.9  ║ 4.9  ║ 6.8  ║ 0.139  ║  ║ 0.5  ║ 3.3  ║ 3.8  ║ 4.2  ║
║ 2012-13 ║  27 ║ ATL ║ NBA ║ PF  ║  76 ║  2683 ║ 17.7 ║ 0.501 ║ 0.17  ║ 0.272 ║ 5.8  ║ 21.3 ║ 13.6 ║ 20.9 ║ 1.8  ║ 3.9  ║ 14.6 ║ 26.7 ║  ║ -0.3 ║ 4.5  ║ 4.2  ║ 0.075  ║  ║ -0.8 ║ 2.8  ║ 2.1  ║ 2.8  ║
║ 2013-14 ║  28 ║ DET ║ NBA ║ SF  ║  77 ║  2730 ║ 14.1 ║ 0.463 ║ 0.215 ║ 0.244 ║ 3.9  ║ 17.6 ║ 10.4 ║ 15   ║ 1.9  ║ 3.2  ║ 12.7 ║ 24.5 ║  ║ -1.4 ║ 2.5  ║ 1.1  ║ 0.02   ║  ║ -1.5 ║ 0.9  ║ -0.6 ║ 1    ║
║ 2014-15 ║  29 ║ DET ║ NBA ║ PF  ║  28 ║   896 ║ 14.3 ║ 0.417 ║ 0.095 ║ 0.284 ║ 6    ║ 18.9 ║ 12.1 ║ 26.5 ║ 2.1  ║ 4.2  ║ 14.1 ║ 25.3 ║  ║ -1.2 ║ 1.2  ║ 0    ║ -0.001 ║  ║ -2.2 ║ 3.2  ║ 1    ║ 2    ║
║ Career  ║     ║     ║ NBA ║     ║ 781 ║ 26704 ║ 17.8 ║ 0.506 ║ 0.121 ║ 0.343 ║ 6.8  ║ 20.1 ║ 13.4 ║ 16.5 ║ 2    ║ 4.6  ║ 14.3 ║ 23.7 ║  ║ 9.9  ║ 38.8 ║ 48.7 ║ 0.088  ║  ║ -0.6 ║ 2.6  ║ 2.1  ║ 27.4 ║
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Re: Josh Smith Waived

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Josh Smith's 14 year RAPM

134. -0.3 OFF 1.9 DEF 1.6 TOT

2015 xRAPM:
-2.31 O 2.56 D 0.25 TOT

Not bad at all.

Net on/off:
2013: +2.9
2014: +0.8
2015: -12.3

That is brutal. I think he could be successful in the right spot, but I'm not sure he has the mentality to do it. Maybe getting cut will be a humbling experience for him. He needs to be a PF and get benched every time he takes a 3.
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Re: Josh Smith Waived

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colts18 wrote:Josh Smith's 14 year RAPM

134. -0.3 OFF 1.9 DEF 1.6 TOT

2015 xRAPM:
-2.31 O 2.56 D 0.25 TOT

Not bad at all.

Net on/off:
2013: +2.9
2014: +0.8
2015: -12.3

That is brutal. I think he could be successful in the right spot, but I'm not sure he has the mentality to do it. Maybe getting cut will be a humbling experience for him. He needs to be a PF and get benched every time he takes a 3.
I would LOVE to see if a guy like Coach Pop & the Spurs culture in general could make effective use of the talent he does have.
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